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I just read chase's article on womens' morality, here: https://www.girlschase.com/content/beauty-greatness-and-goodness-female-moral-nature

This is a relevant and important topic for me because my specific goal for learning seduction is to have a woman who is viciously devoted to me.

He emphasizes very aggressively throughout the read that women are only able to stay devoted to you if you are willing and able to provide them with children. This is a problem for me because quite literally, my balls are not connected to my prostate. So I can't get any girl pregnant no matter what. I won't get into how this was discovered so moving on...

So let's assume for the sake of argument that I otherwise fully embody both the attractive "alpha traits" and the attractive "beta traits" simultaneously, being the kind of man that my type of girl crawls over glass to be with. Is being mindblowingly attractive enough to overcome this limitation on its own within the context of my goal?

But with the arguments that chase made in the article, it seems that failing to fulfill the 'biological clock' instinct would be percieved as failing to uphold my end of the relationship.

In that case I'd assume I need to keep her need fulfilled by redirecting it towards myself (thus satisfying the social contract), but I don't know how to do that without causing her to lose attraction for me because my understanding is that women cannot be sexually attracted to someone that they also feel motivated to protect or mother.
 
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It all comes down to whether you want children yourself.

Let's assume you do.

I don't know very much about this particular field I will write about below. Consult your GP or a sperm bank or maybe even a urologist.

But if there is any safe technology that can remove sperm from your balls - assuming they still make sperm - so you can have it stored for the future... and get a girlfriend inseminated with your own semen... that could take care of it. From my superficial understanding, such things may be pricy and the industry can be sketchy in some places with their advertising. Maybe some of the good clinics will accept foreigners if their own country is no good for one reason or another.

Otherwise, getting her inseminated with donor sperm or adopting a child may be other suggestions

If she is as vicisiously devoted to you as you wish for, she probably doesn't care that much about the means to reach the end (children), just as long as you reach it. That will depend on each woman's preference

And if you don't want any children, it's easy... find one who doesn't want (more) children.
 

Dough

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And if you don't want any children, it's easy... find one who doesn't want (more) children.
I have no intention of having children and I have no intention of being with a woman who has ruined her body with another man's seed.

My concern is more about what chase detailed regarding womens' sense of morality being contingent on having children with the man that they are attracted to, and the expectant loss of attraction even in women who would otherwise claim to not want children.

So is the idea then to just find a woman who is magically a unicorn that won't have her biological clock start screwing with her mind when she gets to 27? Is the idea that losing me as a husband isn't worth satisfying her biological clock with an inferior man? Or is the point more that chase words his articles in a matter-of-factly way to force people to consider alternative viewpoints even when what he states may not be categorically true?
 

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@Dough,

Perhaps I'm too extreme there?

I know childless long-term relationships where the man and woman have been together for a long time.

Although, perhaps important point, every one of these relationships I'm aware of, the woman is clearly the dominant partner.

I have seen childless LTRs with dominant male partners but they always seem to break down after N years.

I'm sure there are exceptions though... there always are.

I guess the challenge is women who elect not to have children tend to be very strong-willed, opinionated women. Without children to anchor them to the relationship, and if you are not willing to subsume your will to theirs (betaize / become the "one down"), it is a real challenge to keep strong-willed chicks more than maybe 3-4 years, with most of those I see dissolving at or before the 10-year mark.

What you'd ideally want was a docile, submissive woman who couldn't have children... maybe she has PCOS, or some other condition that prevents her from being able to reproduce. I cannot recall ever having encountered any docile, submissive women who do not want children... presumably their docility conditions them toward motherhood / doesn't push them away from it the way a strong-willed woman's drives may push her away from it or make her ambivalent about it.

In theory you could find a submissive girl and try to frame control her into not wanting children... that's definitely a moral gray area, if not outright dark side seduction. IME women whom men try to manipulate into relationships that go against their interests/desires eventually break free, though it may take a while. You probably don't want a girl who's continually straining against your frame, trying to free herself from it, regardless though.

Anyway... if I was you... and that was the goal, a forever LTR with no children... then I would be focused on finding a.) docile/submissive women who b.) are prevented from having children for some reason outside their control, such as PCOS, which is fairly common... anecdotally it seems like a lot of Western women are being diagnosed as infertile due to PCOS these days (sometimes it is a misdiagnosis -- when I was Reddit binging a year ago I encountered a bunch of posts by women diagnosed with infertility due to PCOS who then became pregnant with the boyfriend and wanted to keep it, but the boyfriend did not want children. With your condition, it sounds like it won't be an issue).

As an alternative... it is possible to retrieve sperm directly from the testicle for in vitro fertilization.

So if you happen to meet a girl who's fertile, and you really dig her, and you want to hang onto her, and you aren't averse to the idea of kids, you can always take a trip to the clinic and get some sperm extracted to get mixed with her eggs for a few Mini-Doughs.

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