Help on knowing the right thing to say at the right moment with a girl

[D'EmpEroR]

I am so glad to have met the GC. Reading posts on GC, practising them, and joing this forum is like an evolution on my perception towards seduction. Reading posts on GC do sometimes makes me hit myself hard on my forehead for being such a nice guy all these years and the end points of my relationships have all been bitter (one could call me 'Mr. Bitter-Nice guy). I even lost a relationship recently with this Beautiful girl we promised to get married recently after six years (though, before coming across GC). GC has been like a great luminary glare to my darkest corners - Am Really glad to be a part of the GC moving train towards seduction perfection.

MY PROBLEM
Haven read a series of GC posts, I'm pretty fine now (knowing things I would have known then). But meeting new girls again has been a little tussle on me especially KNOWING THE RIGHT THING TO SAY AT THE RIGHT MOMENT without messing things up,please, how can I get past this?

Thanks!!!

 

[ray_zorse]

Practice, man It doesn't matter if you get it all wrong, just go out & talk to girls...simple strategy: Walk over to the girl. Smile. Say hi there. Start asking her questions about herself. Easy peasy Obviously, lots of room for optimization. But after you do a few then it will become obvious where the biggest potential for improvement lies. For more advanced techniques (at least my version & note I'm no great pro either) see:
https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7710

Good luck bro Ray

 

[PinotNoir]

I think it mainly comes from trying, failing/succeeding, and racking up these experiences.

You can read all of the articles and watch movies/television and read other member's conversations until you're blue in the face trying to memorize the perfect things to say, but when you're in the moment, you're going to forget.

Steps that have helped me improve:

• Skim through a few GC Conversation Examples and the Best of Field Reports
• Watch some classic sexy man movies (e.g., James Bond) and/or TV shows and pay special attention to the dialogue, facial expressions, and mannerisms, or instead of actively doing this, just pay more attention to it when you go see a movie or watch a TV show
• Meet women; go on dates
• If you get something unexpected, pause, stare at her eyes, and think of something for a few seconds to say before you speak
• Be bold and push boundaries; don't worry about going too far when learning (i.e., don't worry about being too sexual)
• Bonus points #1: write an FR and see if others tell you something that you could have said
• Bonus points #2: think about interactions later and what you could have said differently (explained below)

For 2.), I was just watching Casino Royale again yesterday. The dialogue is so good, great movie:
Bond: "You're not my type of girl anyway."
Girl: "Smart?"
Bond: "Single."

For Bonus points #2, keep a journal (offline or online) of things you could have said better for a previous interaction so that you remember for next time. This cements the learning experience better.

Lastly, it's all about getting experience and improving from it! When you talk to 20+ women, you should be slightly better with the next 20+ women that you talk with. If you're not, then try harder to focus on learning and improving, not just racking up numbers.

 

[D'EmpEroR]

Thanks alot!! Really going to work hard on the assignment.

 

[Estate]

My two cents...

I'm a naturally quiet guy, this was a big problem starting out.

I'm not a huge advocate of "routines" but when you meet someone there are a lot of common topics which tend to come up.
Have a few things in your head. Like if someone asks what you do... don't just give your job title, or a boring explanation. Think how you can talk about it to make it sound really cool, but on a level that someone who knows nothing about your job can relate to.
Do that for a few basic topics.

It doesn't hurt to have a few fallback stories and things to talk about when there's nothing else either.

This give you a backup. After you do it a few times you'll just be on auto-pilot. This can get you over the hump.

But I actually got this concept from a Simple Pickup video where they just talked to girls in clubs about vegetables or other ridiculous crap. And it's funny, this works....
It's not *what* you say but how you say it. Like, you can talk about any crap at all but if you say it in a fun way or deliver a boring story with passion, creativity, make it colorful, paint a picture... it draws people in.
I was out with a girl last week and we were after a few drinks. On the walk back I realized I was telling a story about the subway and was like "What the hell am I talking about???" but she was just into it, I was talking about something dumb and boring but just making it fun and painting her a picture and she was having fun. So who cares?

If you want an example of what I mean, youtube some videos of Russell Brand. Look at his audition tape for Forgetting Sarah Marshall... basically he takes some random stupid topic but just rambles on about it for 10 minutes to the point everyone around him is splitting their sides laughing.

 

[NarrowJ]

But I actually got this concept from a Simple Pickup video where they just talked to girls in clubs about vegetables or other ridiculous crap. And it's funny, this works....
It's not *what* you say but how you say it. Like, you can talk about any crap at all but if you say it in a fun way or deliver a boring story with passion, creativity, make it colorful, paint a picture... it draws people in.
I was out with a girl last week and we were after a few drinks. On the walk back I realized I was telling a story about the subway and was like "What the hell am I talking about???" but she was just into it, I was talking about something dumb and boring but just making it fun and painting her a picture and she was having fun. So who cares?

If you want an example of what I mean, youtube some videos of Russell Brand. Look at his audition tape for Forgetting Sarah Marshall... basically he takes some random stupid topic but just rambles on about it for 10 minutes to the point everyone around him is splitting their sides laughing.

^^^ This.

The "PUA science weirdos" refer to it as "The Law of State Transfer", but it's actually a real thing. Basically, you can say whatever the hell you want, and if you're confident about it and so long as YOU think that what you're saying is important and has value, the other person will automatically think it does as well. You can walk up to a girl and straight up be like, "Hey! What's your favorite flavor of popsicle?" if you deliver it confidently and display self-assurance in your body language. Conversely, if you walk up to a girl and you're waving your hands around and talking too quickly and rocking back and forth nervously, she's going to respond badly no matter how interesting the topic of conversation is.

Emotions are contagious. It's all about sub-communication.

J.J.