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Gio68

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So, simple story made short (ooooops, short is not really me...), I did date this very cute girl a year ago, we had some good time together, we also ended up sleeping together a couple times but she was not very into it even though it was not forced at all; I knew there was somebody she couldn't detach from and as such (and also because of my behaviors :-( ) the story came to an end.

I had another (very nice at the beginning but then turning very odd) relationship in the meantime and we lost contact, we met again after like 7-8 months with my surprise as I thought she left (she lives abroad, not far, and works where I live), I was on and off with my other relationship which then came to an end, she was kind of detached and distant, we casually met several times in public places whilst I was with friends (both girls and boys) and my friends noticed (especially the girls) that she, the one I will call M, always laying an eye on me like trying to understand who is doing what at the table I was sitting at, I didn't really notice (that's so very me, I am a very good observer besides situation I am the target of...); time went by, in the meantime I hung out with another woman I was not into and I finally merciless broke with her, I did try an approach with M but she wrote me (it was, sigh, through text messages) that I only got back to her because summer was over and I wanted another girl for the winter (yes, because of my job I meet a lot of people summertime and people sees me around with lot of clients/friends and often they confuse business with private life so I am thought like a sort of DonGiovanni), so, it quit there.

I keep going out with my friends on week ends and being this a small place we always end up in the same places with the same people, M is many a times where we are and my friends notice again how she stares towards us and I really don't understand the reason cos it was her not to be willing to make up, by the way, to cut it short(er) a week ago we were sitting at a bar, my female best friend (who a lot of people think is my girlfriend because we are often together during social events or just at public places) and a couple who also are our very best friends, M is sitting at the table behind us, she is giving me her back, once in a while she turns to look towards us but not directly towards any of us, just "distractedly", when they are done and leaving a mutual friend of M and I stands first and passing through our table comes to me cos she is after a long trip in a place I have been before and we shortly spoke about it whilst M stops at the girl sitting at my right hand (I am turned to the left) and chats with my friend (girl) R, when they ready to go M lays a hand on my shoulder to say "ciao G" whilst I was still chatting with the other one, I grab her hand and keep it in mine for a few secs and that's it.

Once M left my friend R says "see, she never before came to me to chat, just hi to hi and that's it, how comes now she came to chat to me? Well, that's because she is into you" (they kinda know we did have a date but not all details), I said "oh come on..." they don't know that whilst she was sitting I did text her and she replied to me and a mutual friend, a male who did try with her, sitting in front of her, noticed both her and I playing with our smartphones so she kept the game with me. My friend R said that it's so obvious she is into me and that she wants to gain my friend's trust to be accepted by them; I gotta admit that to trust me is quite difficult, I don't do anything bad but I have a look (as said by many of my friends, both straight and gay ones) that is sort of detached but attractive and this girl, M, as I know her being very self conscious (nonetheless she is really really cute with some very attractive body attributes) might be scared by me but in the last weeks/months I did really try not to give bad signals so I always go out with the same people group and given M and I have quite a few mutual friends am sure she went to ask some of them if through me and my best girlfriend there is something going on.

Last week end I went out with a group of friends, we went to a bar which was full like an egg, I knew they would have left to go somewhere else so I made a rush to get myself a drink, M was there sitting by the desk talking to a boy (maybe ten years younger), I went to my friends who, as I thought, left, once I got in M wasn't there, I did a round through the bar's terrace and once back in she was sitting there, I was very brave (I am super shy) and went to sit with her, we had a chat, I forced myself to listen rather than to talk (am way more than just "talkative") and she was into it, didn't seem disturbed at all, at some point I knew she would have gone somewhere with her friends (two girls and a gay man) and as such I didn't want to either impose or be too hard, I just kissed her cheeks (had already told her how beautiful she is, she knows but being very conscious I know she would appreciate ;-) ) and left.

I knew she was leaving for a week along with some colleagues for business, I was struggling if to text her or not, at the end I did and she responded, I did it again and she got back to me again, she knows very very well how much I am into her, I dunno if she now trusts me or if her staring is just curiosity, I kinda knew she had somebody else abroad behind her, also some signals she sends through social networks (Instagram in this instance cos I don't use the damn FB) are pretty clear addressed at somebody but it might have come to an end, I dunno and, most of all, what am here to ask, is if my girlfriends interpretation might be right that she is trying to gain their approval to come towards me.

Needless to say I am so very not just shy but also afraid to be too direct with her and asking her to, say, join for a drink, I'd really like somebody's input. My girlfriend M' always tells me that I dunno how to approach a girl cos she thinks that I never made any effort cos am used to girls coming to me (...) and not all are like that :-( and for sure this is not the case even though, as far as they notice, she is trying hard to get again close...

Please any hint greatly appreciated

Thanks
 

ray_zorse

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Mate I would like to help you, but I'm a bit discouraged because I answered your previous (long) post and got no response, so I'm not sure if I was able to be of assistance or not, also I did suggest you boil down your post to a quick summary with a clearly marked question that you want help on, and honestly I have not read this new post in detail but glancing through, it is not at all clear what you are asking or what you want help on. Could you be more succinct with the background information and make your question explicit?
Ray
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

Drck

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Just keep it simple, try not to overthink things. There is only one way to find out - simply invite her out.

There is really no rationale, there is no logic. She doesn't see things the same way you do.
If she feels good about you and if is interested, she will go.
If she is not interested, ask her 1-2 more times, she may change her mind
If still no go, well, NEXT. You can't do anything, she just doesn't have feelings for you...
 
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