OR Help with Niche Selection and Daytime Approaching Hesitation

[The Emerald Archer]

Did 2 outings the past 2 days in an attempt to complete day 5 of the newbie assignment ("Hi, how's your day going?"), but was unable to engage 6 girls and ask them that question. The only girls I managed to say that to were a few hired guns. I personally don't count those and there wasn't much dialogue, so I'm going to skip writing those few interactions down. I did notice quite a few glances from girls as I was walking around, and even got some IOI's from a hired gun. I noticed 2 big things that I have also struggled with in past instances where I have gone out during the day.

1) The pre-approach.

I feel like I'm taking the "don't make eye contact unless she looks at you first" way too far. Although I do use my peripherals to see if girls are glancing my way, I don't really know when or how I'm supposed to look at them. And sometimes I can't tell if they're glancing at me with my peripherals. I know I'm probably overthinking and overanalyzing this part, but it is something I've struggled with.

Should I just make eye contact while walking by even if they aren't looking at me first? To me, it seems much more comfortable if I make eye contact with someone and then proceed to start a conversation or ask them how their day is going/variation. What do you guys do pre-approach when you're out running daygame? Do you just make eye contact and smile or do you use pre-opening? Also, I'm referring to shopping-type venues not the street. Stuff like department stores, grocery stores, shopping malls/centers, and other small stores.


2) Niche selection/Places with good turnout.

I live in the suburbs and the venues I visit tend to be in smaller cities. There is a medium-sized city where my university is located that is 6-7 miles away, but it's no like there are various stores that I can pop in and out of. It's mostly food/restaurants and pubs. Perhaps I need to do some more exploring?

When I've read about most places to approach during the day (that are not in a social context like business/networking events and other), it mostly comes out to coffee shops, grocery stores, bookstores and department stores/malls. The only multi-level bookstore in my area is a Barnes n' Noble located about 20 min or so away. the next one is in Cleveland which is about a 45-50 min drive. Same with the malls. There is one mall close to my house but it is smaller and slowly going out of business. I honestly don't go there much as the main mall most people go to in my area is the one that is 15-20 min away (which is the one I went to on Thurs.). Besides those 2, the next ones are farther out, like 30-60 min away.

I'm thinking of just going to a bunch of stores in one area/plaza and approach 1-2 girls per store plus some hired guns. I'm not sure if this is sustainable longer-term though. Does anyone have any experience running daygame in smaller cities? What has worked for you guys in terms of finding decent places to approach?

I'm off to a slow start with the newbie assignment, but it's revealing some glaring weaknesses that have been persistent and that I've overlooked. Got two weeks left until my deadline (about 12 outings). I'll be repeating day 5 again today.

 

[Bboy100]

1) The pre-approach.

I feel like I'm taking the "don't make eye contact unless she looks at you first" way too far. Although I do use my peripherals to see if girls are glancing my way, I don't really know when or how I'm supposed to look at them. And sometimes I can't tell if they're glancing at me with my peripherals. I know I'm probably overthinking and overanalyzing this part, but it is something I've struggled with.

Should I just make eye contact while walking by even if they aren't looking at me first? To me, it seems much more comfortable if I make eye contact with someone and then proceed to start a conversation or ask them how their day is going/variation. What do you guys do pre-approach when you're out running daygame? Do you just make eye contact and smile or do you use pre-opening? Also, I'm referring to shopping-type venues not the street. Stuff like department stores, grocery stores, shopping malls/centers, and other small stores.

Don't worry about this yet. Literally pretend you have no idea what a "pre-opener" is. Right now, your job is to kill AA. As such, you need to give yourself permission to come off as calibrated as necessary to just say "hi". Only worry about everything else once you can approach without hesitation.

2) Niche selection/Places with good turnout.

I live in the suburbs and the venues I visit tend to be in smaller cities. There is a medium-sized city where my university is located that is 6-7 miles away, but it's no like there are various stores that I can pop in and out of. It's mostly food/restaurants and pubs. Perhaps I need to do some more exploring?

When I've read about most places to approach during the day (that are not in a social context like business/networking events and other), it mostly comes out to coffee shops, grocery stores, bookstores and department stores/malls. The only multi-level bookstore in my area is a Barnes n' Noble located about 20 min or so away. the next one is in Cleveland which is about a 45-50 min drive. Same with the malls. There is one mall close to my house but it is smaller and slowly going out of business. I honestly don't go there much as the main mall most people go to in my area is the one that is 15-20 min away (which is the one I went to on Thurs.). Besides those 2, the next ones are farther out, like 30-60 min away.

I'm thinking of just going to a bunch of stores in one area/plaza and approach 1-2 girls per store plus some hired guns. I'm not sure if this is sustainable longer-term though. Does anyone have any experience running daygame in smaller cities? What has worked for you guys in terms of finding decent places to approach?

I'm off to a slow start with the newbie assignment, but it's revealing some glaring weaknesses that have been persistent and that I've overlooked. Got two weeks left until my deadline (about 12 outings). I'll be repeating day 5 again today.

I'm in the same boat as you. I live in a small town which has 82500 people. A quarter of them are students, the rest are usually older residents who I have no interest in approaching. What you need to do is mass approach until you kill AA. Do it on campus if need be. No, you won't develop a reputation as "the guy who hits on girls" by the time you kill AA (you'd have to talk to way more girls to get to that point). Once AA is gone and you've gotten to a point where chatting with girls is exciting rather than something you dread, incorporate day game into your lifestyle as outlined this article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-n ... d-get-laid

Keep in mind that no matter what you do, you'll improve much slower in a small town than if you lived in a bigger city. So if this is something you're seriously invested in, consider moving to a bigger city.

Good Luck!

 

[The Emerald Archer]

BBoy,

Don't worry about this yet. Literally pretend you have no idea what a "pre-opener" is. Right now, your job is to kill AA. As such, you need to give yourself permission to come off as calibrated as necessary to just say "hi". Only worry about everything else once you can approach without hesitation.

Sounds good to me. Honestly, before I read about pre-opening and elite eye contact, I used to make eye contact with people everywhere I went and it was so easy to transition to saying "hi" and breaking the ice. Can't believe I've been overthinking that aspect the entire time. And I like the part you mention about being as calibrated as necessary to just say hi. It really simplifies things.

I'm in the same boat as you. I live in a small town which has 82500 people. A quarter of them are students, the rest are usually older residents who I have no interest in approaching. What you need to do is mass approach until you kill AA. Do it on campus if need be. No, you won't develop a reputation as "the guy who hits on girls" by the time you kill AA (you'd have to talk to way more girls to get to that point). Once AA is gone and you've gotten to a point where chatting with girls is exciting rather than something you dread, incorporate day game into your lifestyle as outlined this article: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-n ... d-get-laid

Keep in mind that no matter what you do, you'll improve much slower in a small town than if you lived in a bigger city. So if this is something you're seriously invested in, consider moving to a bigger city.

Yeah, small towns certainly have their limits. I do plan on moving to the big city after college for various reasons, but for now I need to do the best with what I have. And I am definitely going to take advantage of campus this fall where there are so many females congregated in a small(er) area. Everything I've read with regards to "college game" seems to be the whole reputation of being a creep. If anything, I feel that not going direct will mitigate that. After the opener, everything else applies the same in my opinion.

Solid feedback bro, thanks. You've opened my eyes to a few things that I may have overlooked before. I'll be sure to apply these principles from here on out.