Hey daygamers..What does the finish line look like?

[Ree]

Hey,daygamers..i am a student seducer
I was looking back at my journey...and i am curious to know Not just how far i am to the finish line.but.what the finish line actually like


I remember having approach anxiety,so bad id go out to meet women ...waste the whole day walking around then come back home having talked to no one.....lol
Then was a time i used to get numbers,that never resulted in dates
Now i get numbers and dates fairly consistently,but most of my pulls fail

What i need from u is a glimpse of ur own journey as a Daygame seducer,to wherever u are right now(wether u r a space monkey or elder or pet dog or god)

I wont ask mHow many approaches u can do in a day as i am fully aware that this is heavily reliant on the time u have,and ur location,and ur standards.....what i will ask however is

How consistent do u approach attractive gals that pass u
How consisntently do u number close?
How consistently do u get dates from aforementioned numbers?
How consistent are ur pulls from dates
How consistently do u get laid from pulls

..i am seeking inspiration ....i want to know how consistent a seducer can get
How good is good?
What are the limits of the seducer?
Something to set my Sights on....

 

[Edd--19]

Pretty much the same old standard I'd guess. Starting out is tough as fuck, nothing was scarier for me... I had to work from 1 or two approaches a day up to a fair few more. Then came the issue of getting girls to actually stop and talk to me. This was hard, most girls just kept blazing their trail in the mall, leaving me behind in the dust... combine it with no idea what to say next and, yeah I was terrified again. Slowly I overcame this fear and got into conversations and they started getting longer, I could qualify, get girls investing and went on instant-dates some of the time. I didn't number close very well and when I did the girls almost always never texted back. It got to the point where I knew that if they didn't text back to my icebreaker text they weren't interested. Anyway those numbers were few and far in between... Nowadays they're a little more consistent but I am still yet to hook consistently, I used to try natural game but I always struggled with saying something and managing my sub-communication, I've switched to routines to help fill the void when I do get stuck.

Answering your questions
- I try to approach them, it depends on a lot of things, but if she's solo and I've built social momentum then chances are yes.
- If I get into a conversation longer than 30 seconds I usually close with a number, regardless if the girl hooks... though I have a feeling they don't hook.
- Recently it's picked up a little, I used to get nothing from it now it's slowly growing... My weakest area is hooking girls, so few numbers and fewer dates.
- My pulls are pretty good, I always get a kiss and I always get to a point where I can get a girl to want to come home with me. I usually fuck up around here and try too hard and the girl doesn't see me again. Trying to take too much from her, not giving any value.
- The last girl I pulled from day game I got her into my room saying, hey let's make brownies... She didn't sleep with me then but the next date she did.

Edd

 

[Richard]

I'm guessing this is the thread you decided to defer your questions to? You've already seen my approach stats in the other thread, as well as the averages you can expect to have with approaches, numbers, dates, and lays. So, I'll be moving on to your other questions.

My journey; I fell hopelessly in love with my first girlfriend and she took advantage of my inability to say no and stand up for myself. She wanted to cheat, told me about it, texted me when she did it and that was the straw and that's where my life changed. At that moment, I decided to break up with her, I was hopelessly depressed and suicidal but I made a vow that moment, and decided to create bodies l boundaries in my life.

I took that raw emotion and channeled it into learning pick up. I took to these boards, had horrible approach anxiety, but I also found alot of help from the Elites at the time and my current mentor (Light, who is now retired from the Boards). The first few approaches were awkward and tough and thrilling as well. Soon, I was able to approach freely and talk to women. 3 months into daygaming I got my first lay. At around 6 months I had my first instant lay.

What you really learn from doing approaches is good judgement about who you're approaching. You start to see the signs and feel out the interaction before it happens.

If you really want to be good, you'll never reach the finish line. You'll always be learning and refining your process - if you ever get complacent and comfortable with yourself then you'll be dying at the finish line. It's the thought that you can always get better that drives the greatest in any field and seduction is no exception.

 

[Lawliet]

Bros got it!
Never an end! But it's always so interesting to see how things go.
Sometimes it's surprising but that's the joy of it!
If everything is predictable, then it'll be boring.

I'm with you here Ree, still working on it also (you've made good progress with LR lately! Good job!)
Lawliet

 

[Ree]

- My pulls are pretty good, I always get a kiss and I always get to a point where I can get a girl to want to come home with me. I usually fuck up around here and try too hard and the girl doesn't see me again. Trying to take too much from her, not giving any value.
- The last girl I pulled from day game I got her into my room saying, hey let's make brownies... She didn't sleep with me then but the next date she did.

Edd

thiis is something ive always been interested in,do u manage to pull even after kissing,coz all tghe times i kiised a gal,the pull failed,

plus what wud u say is ur date to pull ratio is it a 1:1(out of ten dates,how many pulls wud be suucesful)

 

[Ree]

I'm guessing this is the thread you decided to defer your questions to? You've already seen my approach stats in the other thread, as well as the averages you can expect to have with approaches, numbers, dates, and lays. So, I'll be moving on to your other questions.

My journey; I fell hopelessly in love with my first girlfriend and she took advantage of my inability to say no and stand up for myself. She wanted to cheat, told me about it, texted me when she did it and that was the straw and that's where my life changed. At that moment, I decided to break up with her, I was hopelessly depressed and suicidal but I made a vow that moment, and decided to create bodies l boundaries in my life.
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woah....i think its rad how ur situation made u better not bitter
before seduction i never even had a girlfreind
...most of ur bodies come from nightgame or daygame?

 

[Edd--19]

Hey Ree,

What I consider good is different to most people... I think I've got to clarify that... There are lots of people better than me. That being said I've been on around 20-30 dates with different people and I think I've slept with 5 of them maybe six... but take 5 for now. A few more came into my room but had LMR and I got too outcome dependent and selfish so they never saw me again. So I'd say about 1 in 10 dates but I don't have a lot of reference points, take with a pinch of salt.

Also if you keep trying you will bed them eventually, one of those girls took 4 dates to bed I was the second guy she slept with... she was a little weird.

As for kissing... I usually use it gauge how I'm doing on the date, if they kiss me I know I'm closer to getting them to come home with me... I don't use it as a technique to make things easier... Just a checkpoint.

For my most recent pull last Thursday (No LR on this) we walked around and tried to find a place for coffee, I've stopped drinking alcohol so no bars... We don't find one, she's tired so we sit down and I kiss her to check if the seduction is proceeding well. She kisses back, it's going well... I keep leading her, now closer to my place, trying to find coffee... Everytime she does some big bit of compliance I reward her with a kiss, I make it spontaneous because I love it... Sometimes I just pull her close into me and swiftly kiss her other times I build the tension up slowly by inching closer.

Now I'm no expert but, for me, I'd say it's what you do with kissing... If it's for no reason except to break tension then it's not going to help, if though it's for helping see how well you're doing and using it as a reward it can help.

Then when in the bedroom I can use it to reward her with kisses when, say, an article of clothing comes off.

Again, someone else might be better to take advice from, I mostly use it to help with my vibe and that.

Edd