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High Level Guys Weaknesses List

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Hi Guys,

This are list of high level guys weaknesses

1)Overvaluing women intellect as better
2)Overvaluing women's words as facts
3)Overvaluing women's smell
4)Seeing from Results, not the process (millionaires have this, billionaires often don't)

Ultimately: ASSOCIATIVE THINKING

Sorry to high level guys though not sorry :) We all gotta do what we gotta do. I'm just waiting to see who is honest and willing to drop their ego, and tell me that yes, we do not know everything. Not tell me but write this post with an honest opinion.

I don't think most men can do that. Thus that's why Chase also often noted that the guys who are dominant and has great girlfriends, don't need to be here.

It's a weird aspect of dating, and also life. Do not buy into the bullshit but you are the bullshit. You are unattached self and the attached self.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAXracFwywE


"Women don't know shit. Men pretend they know shit". - Zac 2017

Zac
 

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Nobody knows everything Zac. There might be the believe that we do, which is essentially a sign of big ego, but in reality we don't. On the other hand big ego may be beneficial especially when dealing with women...

There are many ways to seduce women, there are better ways or worse ways... Just because some ways are not optimal or they take long time, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are bad... Many times it is not only about the destination, it is also about the road that leads to it...

Think about it, most of our ancestors had zero seduction skills, no access to Internet or advice from skilled members, yet they get by with women just fine... Why is it that a guy today actually need an advice or practice seduction four years at first place... Ever thought about that...?

Women in general are not that difficult. You can observe many beginner guys with essentially no skills and no seduction knowledge at all who are doing quite well. They are just average guys, average confidence, not really some dominant and skilled superheroes, yet they get far with the woman and only perhaps get stuck on some trivial things. Many times guys also forget that women are interested in other sex as well...

If the woman is really interested in you, you don't really have to do much because she virtually throws herself at you. She will make everything on you easy, talking to her, touching her, kissing her, even sex... Unless you experienced it first hand perhaps you can't even believe how easy it is... She will give you many windows, she will give you visible hints, she will invite you to her place, and she will even initiate sex herself...

There are old schools of PUA and relationship managements that focus on interest level (of the woman in you). In essense, if her interest level is lower than 50% you have virtually zero chance to sleep with her. On the other hand if her interest level in you is somewhere around 80-90% you have very high chance to be with her, with pretty much zero effort. And that is how it should be.

... But many times it's not. There are many reasons for that. As a skilled seducer you basically learn to raise her interest level in you, and also recognize when her interest drops to dangerously low level so you can drop her and stop wasting your time...

Many times average guys are fighting to keep her level of interest between 55 to 60% or so; which makes the seduction very difficult, it is lots of effort, lots of self-improvement, lots of wasted time, lots of false hopes, lots of high expectations... And lots of disappointments... Guys start overthinking and overanalyzing everything, they react to everything, which in essence works against them. In reality if the only stop thinking about her, if they forgot her for a couple days and focus on something else, most of the time her interest in him would actually increase to decent level...

That is why is it so important to have solid fundamentals. You have to work out the fundamentals for you, not for her. When you have your life in order and when you know what you want from life, when you show that you don't really need women to be happy, the whole seduction business becomes much easier. Women will actually start seeking you out, start showing great interest in you, and start seducing you... That is why I many times say that seduction is not really needed... It is woman who should be worried about being good seducers, not men... Men should worry about, well, being real man, not a fake one...
 

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Drck,

Drck said:
big ego may be beneficial especially when dealing with women...

Yeap, definitely.

Drck said:
it is also about the road that leads to it...

(Y)

Drck said:
yet they get by with women just fine... Why is it that a guy today actually need an advice or practice seduction four years at first place... Ever thought about that...?

Ever thought that we all have been lied?
Not that the world is malicious. They don't get women "just fine". In fact, it has always been this way.

Phase of life. is the perfect term to describe everything. I don't want to promise anything but i like to reveal in an blogpost on this, the great hoax of the dating sphere and throughout history.

It revolves around the fundamental aspect of everything, Phase of life. WHICH IRONICALLY CHASE IS FOCUS ON RECENTLY IN HIS ARTICLE.

Drck said:
You can observe many beginner guys with essentially no skills and no seduction knowledge at all who are doing quite well.

Nope. That's the assumption.

Just because their girlfriend is hot or university student or they come from a conservative background. Part of the hoax is this.

Drck said:
If the woman is really interested in you, you don't really have to do much

Depends on her phase of life and needs/desires at the moment. I can derive many things here.

Drck said:
There are old schools of PUA and relationship managements that focus on interest level (of the woman in you). In essense, if her interest level is lower than 50% you have virtually zero chance to sleep with her. On the other hand if her interest level in you is somewhere around 80-90% you have very high chance to be with her, with pretty much zero effort. And that is how it should be.

... But many times it's not. There are many reasons for that. As a skilled seducer you basically learn to raise her interest level in you, and also recognize when her interest drops to dangerously low level so you can drop her and stop wasting your time...

Many times average guys are fighting to keep her level of interest between 55 to 60% or so; which makes the seduction very difficult, it is lots of effort, lots of self-improvement, lots of wasted time, lots of false hopes, lots of high expectations... And lots of disappointments... Guys start overthinking and overanalyzing everything, they react to everything, which in essence works against them. In reality if the only stop thinking about her, if they forgot her for a couple days and focus on something else, most of the time her interest in him would actually increase to decent level...

On point.

You got any references to this or article you remember? I read this and it is on point on the critical things like her interest level and how you can work with it.

Drck said:
Women will actually start seeking you out, start showing great interest in you, and start seducing you... That is why I many times say that seduction is not really needed... It is woman who should be worried about being good seducers, not men... Men should worry about, well, being real man, not a fake one...

Good stuff but then Again, this is her seeking her needs. Roles (Lover, Provider, Tribes)

Zac
 

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Life is mysterious Zac, it always gives us exactly what we are looking for. If we are looking for simple and easy things, we will always find plenty of simple and easy things. On the other hand, if we are looking for difficult and complex things, life will always provide abundance of difficult and complex things as well...

What are you looking for Zac?
 

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Drck,

What are you looking for Zac?
Truth.

You and I see this forum, powered by web hosting. That's truth. We might see different angles but the website is the website.

And no. That's the bullshit that self help gurus try to deviate. They bullshit by telling people to focus/perceive on other things. Fundamentally, this is important but the problem still exist.

I can be aware all I want in the middle of an airport. My face will be a tarmac nevertheless.

And self help gurus will blame me for it. Though I pay them already. Self help gurus is essentially you paying gurus to jack you off, and paying them well.

Zac
 

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There is no such thing as truth, at least in simple personal terms. What we consider truth on personal level is only a matter of perspective.

The perception of “Truth” always changes, depending where you stand, depending on point of view you take, depending on how you look at things...

For example, if you stand anywhere on the planet, you think you are not moving at all. But if you leave Earth you can measure that the Earth revolves around Sun at speed 18.5 miles per second, 67,000 miles per hour. The Earth also rotates around its axes, a person who stands on equator moves at 1000 miles per hour, much faster than another person who stand close to North Pole.

As if that wasn’t enough, the Sun is moving 483,000 miles per hour through the galaxy, and the whole Milky Way galaxy is moving at 1.3 millions of miles per hour through the universe. The speed (truth) changes, depending from where you look at it, yet the amazing thing is that on personal level you may not even feel the speed at all...


Consider the pics below:


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https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... mrc&uact=8
 

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Drck,

There is.

I ask you to stand in the middle of a busy road. I ask you to visualize. You can visualize all you want. A car is going to hit you. And the self help gurus will say, "you don't visualize hard enough"

That's stupid. But that's the idea. To sell people stuff.

There is this website. It's a basic fundamental aspect. You see. I see. There's a website.

Truth is universal. Truth is nothingness. If you meet me offline, you will have a response and i recognize. I see everything, almost everything.

Btw, you fail to recognize your own flaw, that is you say that truth is where we stand from. That's the principle, we must first recognize where we are, that is choice, the product of causality and subjugated between power (God/universe/etc) and without power (humans).

The table is still the table. :) Will Gravity have different perspectives? lolx. We still stuck glue to surface. That's the bullshit business owners and self help bullshit have to sell.

Another reason why i have problems in my business. i have to stimulate people.

Zac
 

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Well, once you find the truth let me know, I'm interested myself
 

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Drck,

Drck said:
Well, once you find the truth let me know, I'm interested myself

IT's very simple.

You said to me: "The perception of “Truth” always changes, depending where you stand"

But i ask you a question, "Why do you look at the world that way?" And this will lead you back and back and back onto the original thought.

After finding your original thought, you understand your choice, which is how you see the world that way. Here's the kicker after that, you feel beneficial because you view the world a certain way BUT that's all that is, you view it a certain way.

But reality is reality. If i rape your girlfriend, that's not ego (lolX) as what this law of attraction gurus who are often fat fucks, says. Their idea is to suck money out of you. Your girlfriend is still raped.

Sure..... Drck will need to perceive his view onto his girlfriend. Thus, this is what they meant by ego. Everyone is their own thought form, but your girl still get fucked by me.


So self help bullshit help themselves by robbing people out of their hard earned money!

Zac
 

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Why do I look at the World that way? Because I also seek the Truth...

The concept of Truth is rather complex, it is beyond individuals to see the whole Truth....

Say that we look at the horizon every morning and see sunrise. But is it a Truth? Of course, based on our personal perception it is truth, because we see it that way every morning. At the same time, the Sun is not really rising anywhere, the effect of sunrise is caused by Earth revolving around the Sun. If you had the opportunity to sit in spaceship you'd see different reality, you'd see that Sun is not rising anywhere...

We don’t perceive that the Earth is moving 30 Kilometers per second around the Sun either, our perception is that the Earth is motionless, that it doesn’t move at all... Our perception is rather that Sun is moving across the skies from East to West. Do you feel the movement of Earth? You don't. Nobody does but Earth revolves 30 Km/Sec around the Sun... It takes mathematical calculations to figure out that Earth is moving around Sun at certain speed, yet our perception "Earth is not moving" is there... Yet again, if you sit in spaceship and observe Earth and Sun from distance, you'd see totally different reality...

You may believe it or not, but that doesn't change the Truth. You may still claim that all you see is moving Sun and all you feel is that the Earth is not moving, but that doesn't change the reality either...

But that is not all. How do we actually KNOW that the Earth is really moving? We really don’t, we only BELIEVE that what we were thought in school is the Truth. Teachers showed us globe, pictures of Sun and stars, couple numbers, and told us that the Earth is revolving around the Sun... And since that we BELIEVE it, never mind that the teaches never calculated the speed of moving Earth or sit in the spaceships themselves... They only read it in other books... It is simply collective truth that all of us BELIEVE in but very few really KNOW that it is the truth...

It’s obviously silly to claim that the Earth is not revolving around the Sun, but think about it, the whole point is - how do we really KNOW? We don’t really KNOW, we only BELIEVE that that's the Truth because we were told so by others...

We only BELIEVE that what we read or what we were thought since we were little is the Truth - and we then repeat the same ‘Truth’ to everybody else, including children...

That is only one example of ‘Truth’ from out lives, one example out of thousands...

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No, if you are a true skeptic who is seeking the Truth, you would have to start questioning even your own existence, because there are some interesting scientific findings (in quantum mechanics) that may disprove that what we consider as real (what we perceive to be the truth) may actually not be real at all. For example, when we look at the Moon, the Moon is there. We also BELIEVE that once we close our eyes, the Moon is also there, that just makes sense. However, that may not be the truth, because there is a probability that the Moon may disappear once we close our eyes.... Those are things we can’t even imagine today, even Einstein rejected that idea, but based on the latest scientific work this claim may be very real, it may be the Truth regardless whether we believe it or not...



The same is everywhere you look. For example, you talk about Ego. But, where is the Ego, can you point to it somewhere? Are You the Ego? Are You your thoughts and your believes? Are You your personality, or your body - are You your hand, your heart, your brain, your soul, and if not, what or who are You then? You can't really point to your-Self, yet you know that You exists... I don't see any Ego anywhere, how do I KNOW that it exists...???

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We may also consider different reality. For example:

Guy A:
He is really good looking, he is sexy, he really has good value as a man, he has all possible predispositions to get hot girls, he re-reads GC back and forth one hundred times... But the REALITY is, if he sits home and does nothing, he will not have any success with girls... No girl will come to his place, knock on the door, invite herself in and throw her clothes off just because he is such a great and amazing guy... That just won't happen, no matter whether he likes it or not...


Guy B:
He may be just an average guy, short or tall, black, white or brown, fat or skinny, and he can have Zero knowledge of seduction - yet if he goes out and talks to different girls, there are great chances that he will find a girl that he really likes and she also like him... They'll go for a date, she'll sleep with him and even marry him. The more girls he talks to the higher chances he has, that is just simple math... Is it a reality? Of course it is. Look at the number of people in the world, over 7 billions, there is just no way that all these guys in relationship are great seducers. On the other hand, most guys (way over 90% if you want to dig into it) don't really have any clue about seduction... Ask 100 random guys on the street what they know about seduction, GC, Red Pill, MGTOW, I wouldn't be surprised if you don't find any, very few...

Guy A may not like this reality either but that is only his issue. I've seen many guys who were rather plain and simple, who were average local workers with average intelligence (versus e.g. mysterious traveler), who had no more than basic game on high school level and so forth - yet they ended up with a great looking girls... There is also no way that they were what is described here as "naturals"... Again, believe it or not, this is my personal experience... I KNOW because I've experienced it many times...

So you may BELIEVE that it is the Truth, or don't. You can say that I lie and that you don't believe me. But how do you really KNOW? The only way to KNOW is that you experience it yourself...

The whole point is, if a guy doesn't put the work in and doesn't go meet different girls face to face, he simply cannot be great with women. Another point is, that the guy doesn't really have to be that great in seduction to get really good and great looking girl... Believe it, or believe it not...
 
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