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MonsterzRock

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How can I screen for women that don't drink alcohol?

I spent several hours in the Forums the other day looking for similar posts but didn't find anything related.
I'm trying to come up with a dialogue example (template) to work with. So I'm asking for some help and ideas for this.

I DON'T want it to look like this:

Guy: Hi, I'm ....
Girl: Oh, hi..etc
Guy: So what's your favorite thing to drink?
Girl: bla bla bla
Guy: Okay, bye...

I'm not certain when or where this should happen. During small talk? Deeper diving, I've no clue.
And 95% of time this would be during day game settings. On very rare occasions, I've met a handful of women in bars and nightclubs that don't drink at all (or they're a DD, lol). And I'm referring to venues that also have live music or karaoke.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any input here.

MR
 

mist

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1. Venue Selection. Where you go determines the type of drinker she is or if she drinks at all.

2. More Daygame. Not everyone goes out Friday, Saturday, Sunday only to return hungover Monday. Meet more women in different places.

3. Bring up situations where alcohol would be involved with stories and or a video or article you read see how she reacts. Like that you saw a dumb drunk, or your friend getting super drunk, or your first time drinking while building rapport, etc

4. Accept that if you night game she is most likely drinking. Expected to actually. So night game less.

5. Just ask her if she'd like to go for drinks and if her objection is about not drinking then you win. Well, unless you don't get her out at all.

Not really sure if there is a dialogue template. I'd say approach it just like anything else you'd approach in a convo because alcohol is a very regular thing. Just a topic.

Are you able to converse?

Meet more women and add it into your conversations casually through stories, asking about first experiences, asking her out to drinks ( you want her to object drinks, but not the date) etc.

Do it relatively early since you care about this a lot, but be casual and light with the topic until you have assessed her answer and can calibrate. Or go Rambo if you dgaf.

" You seem like trouble. You're not the type for heavy drinking are you?" Be cheeky about this approach though unless you truly don't give af.

Provided you can maneuver through, cut, and create threads your options are limitless in broaching this topic.

Hell if you develop that ability you can bring up damn near any or run into any topic and be ok. Especially with tight fundamentals.

Here's my attempt at a basic template assuming all is going well and she likes you
Guy: Hi, I'm ....
Girl: Oh, hi..etc
Guy: Direct Opener
Girl: Some sort of response ( we'll assume positive)
Guy: *A little rapport, arousal*
Girl: *A little rapport, arousal*
Guy: So what's your favorite thing to drink? ( As a part of your close sequence)
Girl: bla bla bla ( Hopefully she says " I don't drink."
Guy: *Talk about that fo a little or not at all and close or gradually fade away if she does drink*

then
Guy: Okay, bye...

Goodluck bro. Meet tons of women and just throw it out there for now if nothing clever comes to you infield.

No matter how much I read I would have never developed the ability to get logistics so seamlessly and sneak sex into the conversation without the clumsy attempts and just doing it infield. Only then did all that reading really click.
 

Will_V

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How can I screen for women that don't drink alcohol?

I spent several hours in the Forums the other day looking for similar posts but didn't find anything related.
I'm trying to come up with a dialogue example (template) to work with. So I'm asking for some help and ideas for this.

I DON'T want it to look like this:

Guy: Hi, I'm ....
Girl: Oh, hi..etc
Guy: So what's your favorite thing to drink?
Girl: bla bla bla
Guy: Okay, bye...

I'm not certain when or where this should happen. During small talk? Deeper diving, I've no clue.
And 95% of time this would be during day game settings. On very rare occasions, I've met a handful of women in bars and nightclubs that don't drink at all (or they're a DD, lol). And I'm referring to venues that also have live music or karaoke.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any input here.

MR

Are you looking for a complete teetotaller or someone who rarely has a drink or two?

If a drop of alcohol is a complete dealbreaker you're going to spend a lot of time burning through conversation. Unless she's got a history with overdrinking she's probably got no reason to completely avoid it. I once had a short stint with a girl who avoided alcohol altogether (and was dabbling in religion too) but it wasn't because she had always been a good girl.

On the other hand, it's usually not too hard to spot a girl who rarely goes out and isn't a party animal.

Remember, women are very flexible (in multiple ways). It's better to learn how to spot a good student and shape her than to worry about finding the perfect woman.
 

Skills

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Are you looking for a complete teetotaller or someone who rarely has a drink or two?

If a drop of alcohol is a complete dealbreaker you're going to spend a lot of time burning through conversation. Unless she's got a history with overdrinking she's probably got no reason to completely avoid it. I once had a short stint with a girl who avoided alcohol altogether (and was dabbling in religion too) but it wasn't because she had always been a good girl.

On the other hand, it's usually not too hard to spot a girl who rarely goes out and isn't a party animal.

Remember, women are very flexible (in multiple ways). It's better to learn how to spot a good student and shape her than to worry about finding the perfect woman.
yeah i am clubber that does not drink or do drugs, the majority of women i meet get a drink or 2 socially, but after they meet me they don't drink...


Clubs and bar is design to social drinking, there are outliers like me that don't drink... but this is like asking how can i go in the pool and not get wet...
 

trashKENNUT

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How can I screen for women that don't drink alcohol?

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- Social dance events
- Volunteer groups
- Library

= Day game reduce the likelihood

Bring up situations where alcohol would be involved with stories and or a video or article you read see how she reacts. Like that you saw a dumb drunk, or your friend getting super drunk, or your first time drinking while building rapport, etc

You can really smell someone just by how they are with people and friends and whether their friends are positive reinforcement group or 'fly off the cliff but nationalist' group.

'Fly off the cliff nationalist' group of friends are liberal, hippie, cool, contemporary until you realize that they waste your time under the disguise of communism.

I have seen this way too many times. I have experience it. You don't get any value out of it other than virtue signal that 'we are cool, then someone vomiting somewhere, someone gets a camera, and post on TikTok that they are cool BS, repeat'.

I have seen it in almost every social group. Just slightly different dynamics

:)

That's cool for some GC members maybe because they know how to adjust and then fuck girls.

But most guys are not this.

z@c+
 

MonsterzRock

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1. Venue Selection. Where you go determines the type of drinker she is or if she drinks at all.

2. More Daygame. Not everyone goes out Friday, Saturday, Sunday only to return hungover Monday. Meet more women in different places.

3. Bring up situations where alcohol would be involved with stories and or a video or article you read see how she reacts. Like that you saw a dumb drunk, or your friend getting super drunk, or your first time drinking while building rapport, etc

4. Accept that if you night game she is most likely drinking. Expected to actually. So night game less.

5. Just ask her if she'd like to go for drinks and if her objection is about not drinking then you win. Well, unless you don't get her out at all.

Not really sure if there is a dialogue template. I'd say approach it just like anything else you'd approach in a convo because alcohol is a very regular thing. Just a topic.

Are you able to converse?

Meet more women and add it into your conversations casually through stories, asking about first experiences, asking her out to drinks ( you want her to object drinks, but not the date) etc.

Do it relatively early since you care about this a lot, but be casual and light with the topic until you have assessed her answer and can calibrate. Or go Rambo if you dgaf.

" You seem like trouble. You're not the type for heavy drinking are you?" Be cheeky about this approach though unless you truly don't give af.

Provided you can maneuver through, cut, and create threads your options are limitless in broaching this topic.

Hell if you develop that ability you can bring up damn near any or run into any topic and be ok. Especially with tight fundamentals.

Here's my attempt at a basic template assuming all is going well and she likes you

Guy: Direct Opener
Girl: Some sort of response ( we'll assume positive)
Guy: *A little rapport, arousal*
Girl: *A little rapport, arousal*


Guy: *Talk about that fo a little or not at all and close or gradually fade away if she does drink*

then


Goodluck bro. Meet tons of women and just throw it out there for now if nothing clever comes to you infield.

No matter how much I read I would have never developed the ability to get logistics so seamlessly and sneak sex into the conversation without the clumsy attempts and just doing it infield. Only then did all that reading really click.
Wow! Thank you for that awesome response. I wasn't quite expecting such a detailed response, Mist22, lol.
 

MonsterzRock

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Are you looking for a complete teetotaller or someone who rarely has a drink or two?

If a drop of alcohol is a complete dealbreaker you're going to spend a lot of time burning through conversation. Unless she's got a history with overdrinking she's probably got no reason to completely avoid it. I once had a short stint with a girl who avoided alcohol altogether (and was dabbling in religion too) but it wasn't because she had always been a good girl.

On the other hand, it's usually not too hard to spot a girl who rarely goes out and isn't a party animal.

Remember, women are very flexible (in multiple ways). It's better to learn how to spot a good student and shape her than to worry about finding the perfect woman.
Yeah, thanks Will...good points to keep in mind.
 

ph40

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I went on a date with a girl who didn't drink any alcohol AND was a hardcore vegan. Needless to say, it kind of limited our dining-out options. As someone who drinks socially, I just feel a bit awkward being with someone who isn't drinking *at all*. On the other hand, I've also been with girls who drank like fish... like, downing a half bottle of vodka before having sex, after having consumed mixed drinks at dinner. That's a little much, but the opposite is kind of weird too. Sigh.
 
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