How do regular nonPUA/nonNatural guys get girls?

[132]

We have to learn seduction, naturals are good and have a process. But how do regular guys get girls?

Every single guy friend that I have is not a Natural or is learning it but they have been with girls since we were 13-14. Not with lots of girls but in relationships that last years. And I know they are not good with girls cause in the past we've gone out together at night and they were pretty bad with girls like me.


But everywhere I turn regular guys have girlfriends. It seems as though it just happens on it's own. They meet a girl at school/university and start a relationship. No fundamentals, no moving fast, no seduction process, etc.

But it seems to happen for almost everybody. And most will never need to learn seduction.



I'm wandering how this happen. I mean most guys do the opposite of everything that is taught here. Do the girls just go "meh he's not much but I don't want to be lonely, so I guess he'll do" ?

 

[Drck]

I really believe that naturals have strong desire to have sex, they push for it, and when they get the opportunity they simply take it - thus they don't need any seductions skills. It is great to learn seductions skills, but once you actually have them they become obstacle, it is just a waste of time....

 

[Franco]

Ico,

I'm wandering how this happen. I mean most guys do the opposite of everything that is taught here. Do the girls just go "meh he's not much but I don't want to be lonely, so I guess he'll do" ?

If you at LEAST socialize and go out and meet friends through friends here and there, eventually you can end up with a girl at some point. It's a combination of guys constantly putting themselves in a situation to succeed (going to parties, events, social gatherings, etc) with women that find them physically attractive, and then sex suddenly just happens (often over bottle of tequila or vodka).

It's more dumb luck than anything, and you can't consider yourself successful with women if you somehow came across one girlfriend this way (even if she was hot). Chances are, you don't really have confidence in your ability to meet new women (unless you're actively pursuing sex with new women by approaching them like naturals do), and you meet a girl once every few years or so. You've already noticed it yourself -- the guys who have long-term girlfriends for multiple years but then have no idea what to do when you go out with them to pick up women. It's probably part of the reason their relationships last so long; they don't really have confidence in meeting a new girl any time soon.

The reason why some guys see no success at all (and are often still virgins) is that they never even put themselves in a position to succeed by going to social events. It's better to have a 1% chance of succeeding rather than 0%.

- Franco

 

[lux7]

Simple math:

There's 1 girl for 1 guy.

And after the teen years there might be more girls actually and more actively looking for a relationship because of biological clock.