How do you escalate at clubs?

[jdoc]

Hey fellas!

I'm pretty new to night-time seduction and find it really difficult to escalate on girls. I know that Chase mentions that sexual escalations on the dance floor or at clubs are bad; but given my lack of experience, it's something I want to focus on and become comfortable with. For my whole life I've been really anxious about physically escalating with girls on the dance floor. As a result, I almost always hesitate. It sucks every single time. Read about my night-time experiences for far here: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=11463 September 25th entry gives you a good idea about my challenges so far.

Few questions:
1. How do you hold onto a girl when you're dancing and how long should you hold on to them for? At some points, I pull a girl in and hold her hips, but I let go because I fear that she'll be uncomfortable with it.
2. What's an effective way to open girls in a non-needy way? How do you feel comfortable with it?
3. When is the right eye contact to establish eye-contact with girls? Most of the time I'm looking above everyone and using my peripherals - perhaps too much, because I fear coming off as scanning or chasing.
4. Is there such a thing for being too showy with your dancing? I am an extremely expressive dancer, and as a result I always seem to generate attention from girls. Is there such a thing as bad attention, such that it'll come off as un-manly?
5. What are some things that is useful to reduce anxiety and hesitation when escalating on girls? I've always had this problem, and drugs don't do much to help out anyway with this regard. Since I generate so much attention on the dance floor, the added social factor of people watching me throws me off a bit.

Looking forward to your input - thanks!

- J

 

[Prehistoric]

I had some very positive club escalations in the last months.
But they came with a price.

The biggest price of all was to accept a HUGE number of rejections. And by that I mean, some nights I wasn't having any success at all even opening girls, especially at the beginning. I think you really need to stop giving a sh*t about reactions when you want to do club-game. Also I activate a "self-entertainment" state of mind whereby I stop thinking and rationalising too much and I start seeing what's around me, including girls and including rejections from girls, as something which is there to entertain me. Like "doesn't matter what you say or do, I am having a ball here".

After I activate this self-entertainment state of mind I generally try two different kind of approaches

1) I don't even talk, I am on the dance floor dancing with some kind of boss posture (Snoop Dogg etc.) and then I start grabbing girls very confidently. Some girls will be willing to dance without putting any resistance, some girls will initially be aloof but then more complacent when you do that the 2nd or 3rd time, some girls (or their girlfriends) will simply tell you to f**k off. Normally if I tried already twice, then I'll disappear for a while and come back later and try again. Some girls I managed to make out on the dance floor without speaking.

2) I open with very powerful conversational lines. The one that had the highest opening percentages is
"You are criminally gorgeous, they should put you in jail" then grab her hand, and simulate I am putting handcuffs on her and say "ok, I'll bring you to the police station now". Another one which worked pretty well was if she's at the bar with other people getting drink for everybody, I just open on the shoulder and say "you know, it's very impolite not to invite me as well". Some other lines were "I wrote this song, you should pay me a fee if you want to dance it" or "So what are you: actress or model?" or, if she touched you unintentionally "I know you wanna touch me all over but I am not that easy to get".

Last week I opened a girl by saying "Is this club always so full of such nice people like you?" she answered very positively, we talked on the dance floor for 10 minutes (very high energy conversation) I grabbed her, started dancing, then I brought her to the bar, she started singing some stuff for fun and I said "wow, you're good, so good you deserve a kiss" and I made out with her.

As for bedding them after meeting them in the club, this here was by far my best club performance: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11458

just go out there, try stuff and don't let rejections upset you. little by little you'll start understanding what doesn't work and what does. I am still deep in the process.

hope it helps!

 

[jdoc]

Hey prehistoric,

I think you've got some really good points here. I feel I should aim to be more polarising in the future. These days I'm playing it FAR too safe - partly because I fear rejection, and my ego prefers to let women come to me... it's gotten so bad to the point that if a girl is looking at me blatantly, I will lock eyes with her and be the first to avert, waiting for her to open. But until I have night-time seduction handled, I really need to be doing a lot more openings and polarising girls who are into me and not into me from the get-go.

A lot for me to learn about night game.

Thanks for the heads up, bro

- J

 

[Prehistoric]

yesterday I found this series of 10 articles:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/ultim ... ance-floor

just what we needed ;-)

Prehistoric

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

I read your past post on the "no no no girl" I have to day I would have had a hard time staying with her when the Israeli babe was interested. Good looking Israelis are super hot. Excellent pull. I think you can't tell the difference between I don't want to be a slut resistance and real resistance by her look. If she shows fear or anger than it is time to back off.