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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey everybody.

I went to write my NBTs in a university somewhere. Its like the SATs but the South African version. There were tons of girls there and I noticed that many people were alone and afraid of making new friends. This in turn made me a bit anxious to start socializing in the university and as a result I only spoke to two girls.

Anyway, my question isn't really concerning approach anxiety since It only came because I was afraid my time spent in isolation hindered my social skills. My actual question concerns one of my interaction with one of the girls

She was sitting at a table outside. I opened her and spoke with her for about 10 mins. After that period she started complaining about how tired she was and she started to lie on her arms.

Now, this could have been because it was the end of the day and she could have been tired from working, but I've noticed that a lot of girls I talk to end up doing the same thing. Complaining about how tired they are (no matter what time it is) for whatever reason.

My question is, is this something all girls do? Or is the problem me? Do I need to give off more energy? What is small talk? What is it to deep dive and how do I know when (and how) to transition between the two?

Also, in my country, I cannot speak the native tongue. I'm only rooted in English. I think this has an impact on the conversations I have since if I say the exact same thing that somebody else has said, it would create an entirely different atmosphere only because I said it in English. So how do I combat this. Do I say more serious things? Do I say more jokes?

Oh, and I've learnt that I make sarcasm and witty one liners a huge part of my conversations (as I was told by a girl I'm friends with). Is this a bad thing?

I realized that I overcame approach anxiety when my friends told me that I almost seem to not have the emotion of fear since I always go up to a girl the second I see her and because I always seem to remain calm when speaking to her.

This is of course shit, since I'm always terrified as I walk up to them and I always seem to make a verbal fuax pas for every minute that passes the interaction.

But anyway, I've decided to focus all of my effort on conversation now. I want to get all of my fundamentals down but I figure that I can only win the race by taking it one step at a time.

Keep in mind that when I was younger, I was more high energy than ever, but people always seemed to frown upon me doing that.

To wrap up my question, I'm basically asking how to have a conversation with a girl without boring her as well as without overdoing the whole "energy bunny" characteristic.
 

Drck

Cro-Magnon Man
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IMO you are trying too hard to have conversations, perhaps you are trying to ask too many personal questions, too much of deep diving and so on. Maybe she feels that you are trying to "get" something out of the conversation, such as her number or date. That appears needy. Try not to "get" things from her, try to "give" in order to receive back...

...If she is tired, it means she is not excited about what you too are talking about. which means the topics are boring.

Focus on small talks, light and superficial topics only. Avoid personal questions, avoid deep diving, then see how it goes...

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What does it mean to lead conversation? It means you should be able to present and discuss some topics, and she will ideally join spontaneously. Try different topics, if she doesn't join spontaneously she is not much interested. If she has high(er) interest or if she is at least talkative (and most women are), she will start talking and sharing without you asking many questions and/or without much deep diving... Depending on your personality, she should be talking say some 70% while you 30%...
 
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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Drck said:
IMO you are trying too hard to have conversations

Hey Drck

Thanks for the reply. I tried speaking to people using your advice and it seems that the conversation flows more naturally when I lead the conversation like this. Especially now that I view the conversations as a fun thing and I'm not trying so hard anymore. You really helped me out a lot. Thanks man.
 
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