How Far Should I Focus? i.e. Am I a Type?

[57Things]

I'm posting this in advanced because I believe this is a relatively advanced topic.

The overall question is: how much should I specialize? Is there a "type" of woman that I should target over overs, and should this influence where I meet them?

Let me explain.

I have pretty good success with girls. When I go out, especially to my favorite places (typically cocktail lounges, more low-key areas) I find that I meet people quite spontaneously. I've never parsed the approach from the interaction--in my mind it was always "meeting people." And some were women, and some of those I slept with.

Over time, I've discovered that I do well with a particular type of woman. No doubt this is because of my own personality characteristics. I like and get along with elegant, educated women--women who like a particular kind of atmosphere, and not another.

This distinction did not really occur to me until I went on spring break with a friend of mine to Ibiza. I was surprised to find that here, I struck out very often--almost every interaction was a dud. (Not all, but a vast majority). The ones I did talk to, I found I had little in common with them. But I did find them physically attractive.

The trip to Ibiza made me wonder how universal some of the concepts we learn here are. I don't doubt my fundamentals could use work--everyone's can--but they're solid. I wouldn't sleep with as many woman as I do if they weren't. I wondered if all I was doing was finding out a particular type of person who liked my presentation--and went with it.

So my overall question is: how good is good? Players on this board, do you find you appeal to a great many different kinds of woman and try to be the person who can approach and hit it off with anyone, or do you specialize? Where does the border lie between pushing your boundaries and compromising your own good time?

Thanks in advance, I really look forward to hearing your responses.

Best

57Things

 

[trashKENNUT]

57Things,

So my overall question is: how good is good? Players on this board, do you find you appeal to a great many different kinds of woman and try to be the person who can approach and hit it off with anyone, or do you specialize? Where does the border lie between pushing your boundaries and compromising your own good time?

You asking how it is to become "Successful". Success means different to everybody, but most of them, "Success" is equal to money (to a degree). I would suggest that if you love women, or socializing in general, take down notes of what things you haven't venture. Maybe getting a waitress number, or do something mystique like taking a girl's underarm without saying a thing, and bring her to the side.

This are some things. I find most guys even myself at times get jealous for no reason. We tend to see other people success and think we are better. The thing is, there will always be people who are better than you, in a certain skill or any facts of life.

The key is maximizing your skill, whatever it is that you want to learn, and utilize it.

Zac

 

[57Things]

That's not an answer. If you bother to read my post carefully, you'll see that I'm asking a very specific question about how much experienced seducers specialize in the types of woman they meet, and how how much a type the themselves appear to be. I am not asking for empty aphorisms about success, because again, if you read my post I am successful-- I'm instead asking where to go next.

F'reals...

 

[trashKENNUT]

57things,

how much experienced seducers specialize in the types of woman they meet, and how how much a type the themselves appear to be

The type you mean older women or younger women? Girls who are models or girls who work in the service line? There's like so many places or areas you can venture with women and being a specialist at it.

how good is good?

You are asking how good is good. To me, it's like asking what success is. That is why i am asking you.

I'm instead asking where to go next.

I just give you some few things to do, like getting a waitress number. Taking a girl's underarm without uttering a single word, just pure non-verbal approach. Getting a girl's number on a marathon run as examples. I emphasize my part, that's like so many places to go, anyway.

My take.

Zac

 

[Franco]

57Things,

The overall question is: how much should I specialize? Is there a "type" of woman that I should target over overs, and should this influence where I meet them?

I think you might be asking the wrong question here. Instead, what you should be asking is, "what kind of women do I want? And when I know what type of women I want, where is the best place to meet them?"

If you know that you do well with a certain type of woman, then what you need to be asking yourself is, "I'm doing well with these types of women, but are these the women I enjoy the most?" You certainly don't need to target any specific type of woman other than the ones you want. Obviously almost all of the members on this board target women who are physically attractive, but as far as personality goes, you simply target what you, as the seducer, are attracted to. If you haven't tried other types of women yet but you are curious (such as those Ibiza party girls that you might have struggled with), then you'll need to alter your game to win them over.

However, fundamentals don't need to be altered because they are the foundation of your seduction technique (hence the name "fundamentals"). But your logistics, your transition points, and your speed of escalation may all need to be tweaked to pull girls in a different environment and with a different personality.

So my overall question is: how good is good? Players on this board, do you find you appeal to a great many different kinds of woman and try to be the person who can approach and hit it off with anyone, or do you specialize? Where does the border lie between pushing your boundaries and compromising your own good time?

Again, this is all your decision. If it's your goal to be good with every type of woman because you feel like that is what you desire the most and that is what will be the most satisfying, then you can go ahead and do that. This website gives you the foundation of what you need to be good with all types of women (because it focuses on how you appear, how quickly you move, and how you satisfy a woman, which is fundamentally all the same), but if you want to actually have success with every type, you're going to need to go out into the field in that environment and tweak the non-fundamental elements of your game. There are articles on this website that focus on specific types of girls and specific types of environments as well.

Personally, from my experience, if you can pull girls who party, then you can pull just about any other type of girl (contrary to what others might believe). That's because these girls are used to getting approached frequently by attractive suitors with solid fundamentals, so if you can be "the best of the best", so to speak, then you'll pretty much have your pick of the entire crop. From there, all that matters is what you want: do you want to be a bachelor who sleeps with all types of women? Do you only want educated women who don't party? Do you only want women who know how to party (educated or uneducated)? Are you looking for a woman that you can settle down in a long-term relationship with?

These are only questions you can answer and be satisfied with. Hope this helps. =)

- Franco

 

[57Things]

I've actually given it some more thought and need to mull it over, but I just wanted to drop by and thank you both for your responses. I think I'm not quite articulating the question in the way I would like, but the answers were still well-written and well-considered.

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