xcrunner said:
Basically I'm wondering what everyone's success rate is, and how I can improve mine. Over a night, I can only do four or five approaches before I get frustrated and call it a night. Sometimes even less. How do you guys improve your success rate and if yo do open a good amount of girls, how do you not get labeled as the creepy guy who hits on everyone?
Check out Chase's articles about different types of girls, and different venues. Those ones explain a lot of this.
Basically I think Chase advocates learning to read the signals of a girl open to your approach and not just go scattershot around the bar hitting on every girl.
I have learned the merit in this too. Some girls will just not be open to your approach and you can save yourself pain, energy and time by learning to read this.
If you DO go around a bar opening as many "sets" as you can with traditional PUA openers or even direct approaches, it becomes pretty obvious to everyone around. This is oldschool PUA stuff.
If you learn to be more social and initially more indirect you can begin to work the room a little more and build attraction through "social game". Essentially you appear to know everyone in the room and then can filter the women who want to talk to you AGAIN later on. This isn't even PUA, it's like networking in the beginning as you work the room. You need to "appear" to know everyone by easily making conversation without really being seen as "approaching" anyone. You so effortlessly float around the room making conversation with everyone (guys and girls) that people assume you are a popular guy and know everyone. You get noticed in a positive way then later girls who may be interested will be open to speaking again.
That's one way to go.
The other is to simply filter your approaches. This would be what I do a lot more of now.
I COULD approach 10 random girls in a bar as soon as I see them and get blown out 10 out of 10 times.
Or I could read the room, find girls which look open to my approach and approach them very smoothly (I won't say how, Chase has TONS of articles on HOW). That way I could approach 1 girl all night and get her.
Ok, so I screwed with the numbers... If I approach 10 girls maybe some of them will hook.
If I bide my time more maybe I'll have to approach 3-4 to hook but you get the idea...
You essentially increase your success rate by approaching less girls but picking the right ones to approach then when the conversation hooks, spend the time to get those girls... don't just look for 100, 2 minute conversations in a night, they really don't go anywhere.
