How often should I daygame in a week and how many sets per day?

[kristian]

Hi folks.

Firstly I just want to say that I am having fun implementing all these new tools in my interactions with women. Ive started on my journey three months ago, but doing it religiously the last two weeks. With my own game-dairy, reading a lot of stuff and approaching more than ever, I can clearly see some decent results in my interractions with women

I know how important it is to cold approach, and ive made myself a goal of direct-approaching from one to three girls when I am out. However, I don't believe in going out just for the sake of daygame. Instead, I want to implement it in my daily routine. "Today I will go to XYZ-place and if I see a cute girl, ill approach her" has been my mentality. I log every interaction and see what/how I can become better to succeed even more.

Not so long ago, I felt that I just had to do this every single day, making me feel like a failure if I dont follow through. Feel like I need a day in between to redeem myself after a day where im pushing the limits. With this in mind. How often should I daygame in a week? And when I go out, how many sets should I engage in to start seeing monthly results?

I am new at this (Over 30 approaches, 20 numbers and one date), but inpatient at the same time. How long did it take for the experienced guys to really see results? And lastly, if I approach 10 girls every week, how long will it take until I get good at this?

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

kristian,

It looks like you have a great start.

By the numbers obviously the more you get out the more you will learn. But if the stress is wearing on you, do what feels like it is pushing you without wearing you down. Strictly by numbers it is hard to say how long it will take because there are other factors. For example I noticed that you show 30 approaches with 20 numbers and 1 date. It looks like the 30 approaches to 20 numbers ratio is awesome until you look at the number of dates this is generating. This leads me to believe there is an issue. Without details it is hard to nail it down but some possible issues come to mind.

First you may not be screening, qualifying and building compliance enough before getting the numbers. If you are meeting the girl and quickly asking for the number you probably are not building her interest in you. You need to spend enough time with her for her to want to see you again. There are articles in here on deep diving and compliance that will help with this. Also you need to screen the girl to see if she is available. You can do the direct question like "Are you single?" Or you can indirectly asked question that will tell you if she is available. The direct question is quick but it can get you a false answer. Even girls that are interested in you may answer no. It is a protective mechanism. The indirect questions are harder but usually get a more legitimate answer.

Second you may not be setting up for a date. If you only ask for the number without stating you want to get together there is a higher probability of her flaking. Just say something like "Put your number in my phone and we will get together for coffee or something."

Third, there may be an issue with your follow up. I assume you are texting. Chase has an article on this. https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-text-girl Read this for help.

As you develop these skills your number of dates per approach will increase. From what I have read in our forums most of the younger guys who are approaching regularly start to see good dating results in 3 to 6 months. If you are doing day game regularly having sex in 6 to 12 months. If you are doing night game you will probably see that faster but the quality of the ladies will be lower. These are rough estimates and you shouldn't get discouraged if you results are slower.

It is to personal for some people but if you feel you can share your dairy with us we can give your comments. Or you can do field reports also. viewforum.php?f=5 You can put your dairy under journals. viewforum.php?f=15

Keep us up to date on your progress.

 

[Fuck This]

I find I just make conversations with women I talk with and try different iterations of wording statements and questions to see which ones elicit good and bad responses. It doesn't have to be a cold daygame approach. You don't need an excuse to make a conversation.

If you ask a a question make it one she feels she has to elaborate on. Not "where do you live?" or "where are you from?". Those are one word answerable. "Where do you call home?" invites a wider range of answers.

just making those little conversations makes it more comfortable by repetition. It will become so second nature it won't be worthy of a journal entry. Pretty soon you will just get a phone number or say "grab a coffee and talk more?" naturally since the conversation came to that point.

Make it a conversation rather than an approach and you won't be GAMEY...and you can do it all day.

 

[ray_zorse]

If you want to incorporate game into your day-to-day life, I suggest to read and implement this article. It's been enormously helpful to me. I put the article into practice and for a number of months I was getting great results, lots of dates etc. But, I'm not 100% sure I would recommend this approach to a beginner. If you really want to get good fast, and put the basics of your approach and conversation into place (or if you suffer a lot from approach anxiety) you need to go out specifically to approach women and maintain some momentum throughout your approaching session. I've also found recently that the same applies if you've taken a long break from approaching -- just getting back into it by doing an occasional approach throughout the day isn't really sufficient I've found.
Ray
Edit: If you want to be hardcore about it... try going out in the afternoon for some daygame (I find the best approaching takes place mid-morning and mid-afternoon) and approach about 20~30 women, then take a break for dinner and continue with nightgame until the early hours. Here is an example from my journal of such an outing. At one stage I was doing this 2x per week, but it does take its toll on other areas of life.

 

[Smith]

Ideally, you want to do it as you're out and about doing your thing, like Sasha said in the article Ray posted.
But if you want to get good fast....I would also suggest you actually set aside a time just to do this. If you're not keen on going out solely for daygame, try to incorporate some of the stuff you can do while you're out, like listening to an audiobook. Do it this way, your primary focus won't be girls and it will make you more relax. I spent my last summer doing A LOT of daygame almost every day. Even in the first week, I felt like I was improving a lot. The reference experience I gained in the first week was far more insightful than what I got in the previous couple of months. You see your sticking point pretty quickly. If you want to look at numbers, it would be at least 10 girls/day, but that's not what you should be focusing on, because your first girl of the day could literally be the girl you end up getting together with. Focus on enjoying talking to people, then you won't even remember how many girls you talked to. Talking to girls shouldn't feel like "work", and it shouldn't drain you out. There are days I was so tired from work, but after a conversation with a girl I felt energized rather than depleted.

 

[Sophisticated Gent]

If you want to incorporate game into your day-to-day life, I suggest to read and implement this article. It's been enormously helpful to me.

Ray thanks for the article. I like the new perspective. I like the idea of always approaching women. I am going to incorporate this. I think it will relieve stress and improve my life quality.

BDSC

 

[Skid]

I agree with radeng - you shouldn't be thinking how long with it take me to get good. Just focus on what you need to work on - or everytime you go out have something you are going to focus on "today I'm going to see how many girls I can get to sit down /move with me after I open". I've read somewhere that in order to keep improving you you probs go out three times a week at least. I feel like that's a good number - approach addiction is very real as ray touched on and I've had periods where other areas of my life have suffered because of too much approaching. So 3-5 times a week is fine its definitely fine to recharge your batteries for a couple days every week don't make yourself feel like a failure if you don't go out every day; going out everyday can burn you out really fast. If you have other commitments like a degree etc then make sure you don't let approaching take over your life.