How Often Should You Be Fucking Girls Who Approach You In Nightclubs?

[SexNotValidation]

I get approached directly at least once every 2-3 nights that i go out.

I have been going clubbing since 2013 so I have probably been directly approached at least 300-400 times.

i have only fucked 6 girls from nightclubs in my entire life all 6 approached ,me.

so my lay rate on girls who approach me is 1 lay for every 60-70 girls who approaches me.

is this normal or does that mean i am doing something very wrong?

what should the rate actually be?

 

[ljrozz69]

Never.
Imo, having read many of your posts, you have a really bad vibe and you can't interact correctly with a girl.
If you had game it would be close to 100%.

Now, let's talk about something else. The reason why you are making those silly posts all over the internet (yeah I saw them in a hypnosis-related reddit), why you keep going to clubs and why you are not getting laid.
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It's because you need to get validated. This is 100% proved by your whiny post about fucking a girl you where not attracted to. YOU WANT TO GET VALIDATED.

Thus you can't approach, you have a night club addiction -you were the one who told me- and post a shit-amount of posts to get attention (stop spam posting about your AA, you've got all the advice you could have, your problem has nothing to do with PU).
Hmmm...
You've tried everything except... not going to nightclubs. Try it for 6 months up to 1 year. Stop thinking about it. Treat it like an addiction. Focus on other stuff in your life (family/work/friends/passion/whatever). Then if you plan to ever go back to a nightclub, go to different places since you have bad memories on those and you should avoid triggering those by going to the same place.

Klimax

 

[SexNotValidation]

bump

 

[ulrich]

Reread the post above.
@Klimax is giving you good advice.

For the record, your close rate is about 2% which is not terrible but the way you present this information is pretty useless for a diagnostic.

What kind of girls approach you?
What do you do after that?
What kind of game you run?
Are you experienced?
How's your fashion?
What do girls want from you?
How much dating experience you have?
What kind of girl are you looking for?
How do you feel about yourself?
How old are you?

You don't need to answer all questions but if you dont shaer a more complete context, we will be shooting in the dark.

 

[SexNotValidation]

Reread the post above.
@Klimax is giving you good advice.

For the record, your close rate is about 2% which is not terrible but the way you present this information is pretty useless for a diagnostic.

What kind of girls approach you?
What do you do after that?
What kind of game you run?
Are you experienced?
How's your fashion?
What do girls want from you?
How much dating experience you have?
What kind of girl are you looking for?
How do you feel about yourself?
How old are you?

You don't need to answer all questions but if you dont shaer a more complete context, we will be shooting in the dark.

For the record, your close rate is about 2% which is not terrible but the way you present this information is pretty useless for a diagnostic.

how can a 2% closing rate in any element of seduction possibly be not terrible?

wtf?

of course 2% is horrible.

I've never heard anyone say doing anything in seduction at a rate of only 1 in 50 could possibly be anything but terrible?

What kind of girls approach you?

2/3 of girls who approach me i would say are fuckable but I'm not genuinely attracted to them (6/10)

1/3 of girls who approch me im genuinly attracted to them (7+/10)

What do you do after that?

I usually answer their question.

for example, one i have received lately is

"why are you not dancing?"

me" "i dont feel like it"

and usually after that the girl walks away.

What kind of game you run?

i do not really know what that means.

Are you experienced?

no

i have fucked 6 girls from nightgame, 1 from daygame and 1 from online

How's your fashion?

I buy my clothes at zara,nordstrom and H&M and also amazon.

What do girls want from you?

i do not know and i dont really understand the question.

How much dating experience you have?

I have never been on a date in my life.

What kind of girl are you looking for?

I'm open to all ethnicities but prefer girls 23 and under who are short and curvy.

I'm most attracted to brown/caramel skinned girls so meaning mixed girls and brown/arabic girls.

i also find come asian girls extremely hot but only a very small % of them.

How do you feel about yourself?

I do not understand the question.

How old are you?

27

 

[Chrance]

For the record, your close rate is about 2% which is not terrible but the way you present this information is pretty useless for a diagnostic.

how can a 2% closing rate in any element of seduction possibly be not terrible?

wtf?

of course 2% is horrible.

I've never heard anyone say doing anything in seduction at a rate of only 1 in 50 could possibly be anything but terrible?

What kind of girls approach you?

2/3 of girls who approach me i would say are fuckable but I'm not genuinely attracted to them (6/10)

1/3 of girls who approch me im genuinly attracted to them (7+/10)

What do you do after that?

I usually answer their question.

for example, one i have received lately is

"why are you not dancing?"

me" "i dont feel like it"

and usually after that the girl walks away.

What kind of game you run?

i do not really know what that means.

Are you experienced?

no

i have fucked 6 girls from nightgame, 1 from daygame and 1 from online

How's your fashion?

I buy my clothes at zara,nordstrom and H&M and also amazon.

What do girls want from you?

i do not know and i dont really understand the question.

How much dating experience you have?

I have never been on a date in my life.

What kind of girl are you looking for?

I'm open to all ethnicities but prefer girls 23 and under who are short and curvy.

I'm most attracted to brown/caramel skinned girls so meaning mixed girls and brown/arabic girls.

i also find come asian girls extremely hot but only a very small % of them.

How do you feel about yourself?

I do not understand the question.

How old are you?

27

Something I recommend, which I was compelled to do myself about 9 months ago, is to approach pickup from the following frame: get any and all experience as possible and do whatever it takes to get laid.

This means not sticking to any specific strategy, like dance game or indirect game. Just open a lot of sets, ask girls out on dates, get a girlfriend(s), go for the ONS if it’s there, if not that’s fine. Don’t do any specific proper strategy, just talk to a lot of girls and do whatever it takes to bang her. Through this you will experience a lot of discomfort and confusion. Basically, get any experience you can. Also, lower the quality of girls you are interested in. Experience pulling a girl despite her attractiveness changes your views considerably. I remember the first time i banged a girl in the back of my car, the whole time I was thinking “wow this is really happening!”

You really need to get a wider range of experience. Picking up chicks is chaotic. You should have no expectations of smoothness.

As your intuition improves you gradually add in techniques so that your skill improves even more.

Also, do not give a shit about close rate. It’s bad for your mind and IMO should not be even thought of as a useful metric since there are a variety of ways to artificially produce a good ratio. Personally, I don’t know why anyone gives a shit about that. Doesn’t mean you bang either more or hotter chicks. You can get a good ratio by opening warm sets, or talking just to solo girls, or having a strong instinct as to what girls are checking you out and only going for them. Also, if you use girls to produce présélection or social proof then you will naturally need to talk to girls who you won’t end up fucking, which skews the ratio. For example: you go out, talk to a girl and dance together, which other girls see, but you leave her for another woman, increasing your chances of hooking with this new girl. You “lost” the first girl in order to get the second one, worsening the ratio, but it doesn’t mean shit. This is good game. The only statistic that should matter is are you banging more and hotter girls and doing more and crazier sexual activities in comparison to the previous months or years. This of course is something that should only matter to you and not strangers on the internet. The numbers and ratios are simply tools to monitor your progress. If you find you are approaching less than last month than you may have a problem. If you find yourself getting laid less than last year than you might have an issue there. If you find that now you need to talk to 100 chicks just to get a lay than there may be some bad habit or new problem you acquired.

 

[ulrich]

For the record, your close rate is about 2% which is not terrible but the way you present this information is pretty useless for a diagnostic.

how can a 2% closing rate in any element of seduction possibly be not terrible?

wtf?

of course 2% is horrible.

I've never heard anyone say doing anything in seduction at a rate of only 1 in 50 could possibly be anything but terrible?

OK, first of all the closing rate...

I got fixed on finding out the close rates of self-declared master PUAs some time ago. I was very curious about that.
It was pretty hard because many don´t share those numbers (out of imposter syndrome, I guess) and many more greatly exaggerate (easy to tell if you´re alert).

I have reasons to believe that the guys who run "tons of approachs" kind of game, get something around 7-11%.
Yes, they usually have to hit on 10 girls to find one that is down to fuck.

Now, there´s the other end of the spectrum... guys who filter for quality and only date high quality girlfriends.
I have reasons to believe these guys get around 25-33% closing rate.
That is super targeted game and the highest one can probably go while being reliable.

Yes, 2% is not that far away of 7% so don´t come bitching life is terrible and how you´re a hopeless case. I´m not buying that.

15% of men in the western world sleep with 1 girl at most in their whole lives. That´s not you.

What kind of girls approach you?

2/3 of girls who approach me i would say are fuckable but I'm not genuinely attracted to them (6/10)

1/3 of girls who approch me im genuinly attracted to them (7+/10)

I´m gonna give it to you straight because I think this is the best for your development: You´re a noob trying to use a tool for which you´re not ready yet.

You are looking at your game from a perspective of an intermediate tool (closing rate) while at the same time you´re showing the typical pitfalls of a beginner seductor:
+ Judging women on appearance alone...
+ Being a party pooper...
+ Expecting girls to take an active role...
+ Following no system and going full free style...
+ Equating attention to interest...


You should not be thinking in terms of how your close rate compare to others. It´s irrelevant for you at this point.

You need to fix your fundamentals and your mentality and focus on learning how to approach.
If you can´t control the first step, don´t expect to control anything further down the line.


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As a side note, I have an online business, it consists of a very sophisticated "funnel" with many steps.

People see an ad, the click on the ad, then go to a landing page, register for a recorded webinar, attend the webinar, stay the full duration, listen a pitch, open a sales page, open a sales form, put their credit card information and finally make the sale.

You want to know which percentage of people buy from me? .... 0.2%
Yes, 1 out of every 500 people who click my ad becomes a customer...

Is that a crappy result? Far from it!! I´m making loads of money with it.

Remove your expectations of what a number should be and focus on having a complete system.
Learn how to approach, follow up with, connect, seduce, lead, move and fuck a woman reliabily.
Once you are decent in every one of the pieces , we can work on optimizing it and rising your "average close rate".

The system comes first.

 

[Chrance]

what does any of this have to do with the title of this thread?

im so confused dude.

what are you even talking about?

did you read the OP?

I wasn’t replying to the OP. I was replying to your previous comment and the overall vibe I got from it. If you haven’t been on a date before and are concerned with silly metrics like close rate than maybe sticking to the basics and just getting any and all experience with girls could do you some good. That’s all

 

[Chrance]

i have not gone on a date by choice.

i do not run any sort of strategy that involves asking for numbers.

if i do not fuck the girl the same day we meet then i never see her again.

also, right now i just want to fuck a bunch of new girls so even the few girls i have fucked i never ask for their number after

i have not asked a girl for her number since probably 2014.

thats why i have never been on a date.

i do not want to go on dates.

You need to be open to dates man. Give up wanting only SNLs. It’s harder than simply asking for a number and going on a day2. The reason I wasn’t getting laid really at all for the first two years I started was because, like you, I was focused just on the SNL. It’s very dumb and I regret it. By going on dates you become more comfortable with the seduction process as a whole. You can always ditch the girls after you fuck them on a day2. Spending more time with a girl through a date solves a lot of issues related to poor game and takes less pressure for you to perform well. Like, there are a lot of chicks you meet that simply are not bangable that night; day2s get around those logistical obstacles. Also, asking a girl out on a date is basic stuff a man should be comfortable doing. Dates are honestly a lot of fun

 

[Chrance]

I'm not willing to go on dates and I'm only interested in fucking girls the same night we meet in the club.

ditch wanting only SNLs.

You aren’t good enough to pull chicks on a date, and you aren’t good enough to pull chicks who approach you, how do you expect to pull chicks the same night consistently lol? You have goals that are too much for you to handle at the moment. You need to take a step back

 

[thats_a_penis_disgustang]

ban this piece of shit already

 

[DarkKnight]

Has his comments been deleted? I wanted to reply on one. Mainly the post where he is questioning the succes of someone who obviously knows better again in order to put doubt on the responses that he gets. It seems SNV has a big problem with humility and acknowledging that he is at base 1. @Chrance your comments are really solid bro but just wasted in this post.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Has his comments been deleted? I wanted to reply on one. Mainly the post where he is questioning the succes of someone who obviously knows better again in order to put doubt on the responses that he gets. It seems SNV has a big problem with humility and acknowledging that he is at base 1. @Chrance your comments are really solid bro but just wasted in this post.

Wouldn’t say any advice is a waste. It can be used by others. I like reading advice even if it isn’t for me, helps me think about stuff I haven’t thought about before.

 

[DarkKnight]

Sub-Zero, maybe I should clarify. Wasted on SNV.

 

[ulrich]

Sub-Zero, maybe I should clarify. Wasted on SNV.

Yeah, seems like he doesn’t want to listen.

 

[Chrance]

Has his comments been deleted? I wanted to reply on one. Mainly the post where he is questioning the succes of someone who obviously knows better again in order to put doubt on the responses that he gets. It seems SNV has a big problem with humility and acknowledging that he is at base 1. @Chrance your comments are really solid bro but just wasted in this post.

Thanks man. I know SNVs been in it for awhile but you never know what information might get through to someone haha

 

[Teevster]

Has his comments been deleted? I wanted to reply on one. Mainly the post where he is questioning the succes of someone who obviously knows better again in order to put doubt on the responses that he gets. It seems SNV has a big problem with humility and acknowledging that he is at base 1. @Chrance your comments are really solid bro but just wasted in this post.

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