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journeyman

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Feels like ages since I posted a full report. Here I managed to pull an 18 year old party girl literally a minute after meeting her but also managed to fuck it up so I am open to criticism and advice.

We were with my wing in the usual Thursday venue where I have made huge process in opening physically and just having loads of fun with various girls through the night. So in that particular night I had lots of physical openers, a quick makeout some mild rejections and probably a couple of missed IOIs.

It’s getting late and we decide to leave, as we are approaching the exit with our coats on I make eye contact with a girl and she looks back and as soon as I make the slightest dance move she sticks with me and dances enthusiastically. I am not really sold on her and I just try to pull her for the practice.

Her: “Where are you from?”
Me: “Listen we are about to leave but you should join us we are going to an afterparty (It was 3:00 am on a Thursday!!)”
Her: lighting up “Really? Afterparty? Where?”
Me: “Name of cool venue”
Her: Proceeds to discuss with her friend the friend looks shocked haha and tries to convince her no to but it’s too late. The friend just tells me to take good care of her looking genuinely worried and she bounces.

I start to feel bad for getting her out of the venue like that with a lie without even gauging her interest levels beforehand. So there is an inner battle going on to just tell her that there is no afterparty before getting her out of the club but something pushes me to stick in.

We start walking and I make her guess where I am from and my name lol. She is a bit drunk but not too much. She goes to a 24 hour shop to grab a bag of chips, and on the way out she steals an umbrella. I find the whole situation so absurd and hilarious that my state is high as ever.

After that every 1 min she asks if we are going to an afterparty. I deflect it every time saying that we will if she wants to, then it gets overwhelming and I tell her that my friend who we got out with was my ride and now he’s fucked off and we can’t go. She tells me to call him and I decide to play along and use it to my advantage. I call a random number and tell her that doesn’t pick up. I tell her that it’s okay I will just walk her to her house and then leave. She likes the idea and we start walking.
We start walking and talking again, she says something about the house and says that I can stay the night if I want to. On the way I try to connect with her and make her comfortable rather than being playful. Basically I try to cool off any seduction vibe so I could escalate on her home but I might have shot myself on the foot with that. In any case it’s really difficult to walk a significant distance in the cold and maintain a flirty vibe…

We talk about our countries, about her studying law and shit like that which initially had a good vibe. Then she brings up depressive topics like women being treated unequally, her getting depressed without being in the company of other people plus doing drugs 3-4 times a week and not caring about her health. I try to cut all these threads but not very successfully and all these just make it increasingly difficult to relate to her.

She lives quite far away so we walk for about 25 mins! We then finally get to the place, she buys another bag of chips -.- and we go upstairs. She proceeds to start smoking, drinking and eating chips so to relate and connect with her is like a giant effort. At this stage I was a bit put off by that and didn’t really wanted to fuck her that much I just wanted the reference experience.

I tell her to sit by me on the couch and she seems like she wants to but she tells me that she doesn’t like smoking next to a non-smoker and she fucks off to the other couch. She changes into some shorts and a pyjama top. For some reason she keeps bringing up depressive shit, like her mom being in the hospital earlier, and what have you. At some point she talks about her ex

Her: “I don’t like having sex with someone unless I get to know him first. Is it the same for you?”
Me: thinking oh shit this isn’t good: “I can’t say that, basically I think sex amplifies the connection, with every girl I have been with we are good friends now”.
Her: “It’s probably different for you that you are a guy”
Me: grabbing the chance to communicate a casual attitude about sex: “Yeah I know society says that if a girl sleeps with 10 guys is a slut blah blah” and she agrees emphatically.

After some talk like that I see no way of escalating with her over to the other couch, so I tell her that I will bounce. I get up and I hug her goodnight, mock her about her slippers, spin her and pretend to dance with her and she is overwhelmed with many things happening suddenly and I proceed to kiss her. She kisses back, gives me tongue but after a few seconds pulls back and tells me that she is super tired and that she has to ask me to leave. I am like alright cool, I literally didn’t feel anything, hence didn’t show anything.

She walks me to the outer entrance in freezing cold and she is like I am sorry what’s your name again? -.-

That’s the story, I failed the pull but got some good practice. Now I believe I should have escalated soon as we walked in. I was waiting for a smoother chance but since it never appeared at least I would have gotten a yes or no answer straight away instead of wasting time sitting there.
 

HellAtlantic

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Hmmm, you walked an awful lot just for reference points. Lol your heart didn't seem in it all the way so perhaps that affected the results. With such a far walk you needed to do better keeping the sexual vibe going and keeping momentum. You seemed to walk all that way with the mindset of "let's see what happens" rather than "this is gonna happen". Maybe touch her a bit more along the long walk, hold hands, etc., something to keep the flame lit.
 

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sakbishop said:
For some reason she keeps bringing up depressive shit, like her mom being in the hospital earlier, and what have you. At some point she talks about her ex

Her: “I don’t like having sex with someone unless I get to know him first. Is it the same for you?”
You needed to reframe the situation instead of logically engaging her.

So flip it with a chase frame and say something in a teasing way like:
"What? You're thinking about having sex with me already? I never said I was going to put out!"
 
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journeyman

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Thanks for the insight guys, yeah I guess I wasn't really commited to it just going through the process... Chase frames are always good, I need to get better at thinking on my feet what to use in each situation
 
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