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TLDR: Fix your system not the symptom.
Long version:
If you read, understand and implement this seriously, you'll never worry about an individual girl again.
Not only that but you'll improve your life. This is not an exaggeration.
Why I'm writing this
It struck me that a lot of the threads that go round in circles with no solution share this in common.
Guys focusing on symptoms instead of systems.
For all my faults (and there are many) systems thinking comes naturally to me, so sharing this to refine my thoughts and hopefully help someone.
I'll also just link to this thread whenever I see someone who would benefit from this.
Okay wtf is a system and a symptom?
I'm not going off strict dictionary definitions but stick with me, it will all come together.
A "system" is a series of connected steps designed to consistently produce desired outcomes.
A "symptom": is the negative outcome from a conscious or sub-conscious system
Almost every outcome in life can be engineered with a system. E.g. getting girls is just talking to them, getting in shape is exercising, making money is learning skills etc etc.
What does this have to do with game and girls??
99% of girl problems are permanently fixed with better systems.
For example: "I can't stop thinking about girl [from work, cafe, social circle, gym, Instagram, my mum's bingo club, list goes on]"
We all know you need to meet more girls BUT you obsessing over her is a "symptom" of a poor system for meeting women you mutually like.
If you're in a relationship with dynamics you don't like, again that's a symptom of you not knowing or implementing a system to have better LTRs.
BUT DWW, I CAN'T BUILD A SYSTEM BECAUSE OF XYZ, MY SITUATION IS SO DIFFERENT
Remember when I said a system is a "series of connected steps"
You just need to look at each "step" and reason why you "can't" before finding solutions for each step and voilà your new system fixes the problem.
For this to work it requires self-honesty and lack of excuse making
When doesn't this work?
You're unwilling or unable to build or update your system because of black swan life situations (which are less than you think). For example if you're struggling to meet girls because you're living with your elderly sick parents in the middle of nowhere then all power to you.
But 99% of you aren't in a situation like that and if I'm playfully calling you out, just being lazy
It's hard, but the other side is so worth it
I'd also argue it's "easier" to build a system and finally get results you want compared to running in circles with symptoms.
It's like living off medication to cure your headache, when all you needed to do was drink more water...
Onwards and upwards x
Long version:
If you read, understand and implement this seriously, you'll never worry about an individual girl again.
Not only that but you'll improve your life. This is not an exaggeration.
Why I'm writing this
It struck me that a lot of the threads that go round in circles with no solution share this in common.
Guys focusing on symptoms instead of systems.
For all my faults (and there are many) systems thinking comes naturally to me, so sharing this to refine my thoughts and hopefully help someone.
I'll also just link to this thread whenever I see someone who would benefit from this.
Okay wtf is a system and a symptom?
I'm not going off strict dictionary definitions but stick with me, it will all come together.
A "system" is a series of connected steps designed to consistently produce desired outcomes.
A "symptom": is the negative outcome from a conscious or sub-conscious system
Almost every outcome in life can be engineered with a system. E.g. getting girls is just talking to them, getting in shape is exercising, making money is learning skills etc etc.
What does this have to do with game and girls??
99% of girl problems are permanently fixed with better systems.
For example: "I can't stop thinking about girl [from work, cafe, social circle, gym, Instagram, my mum's bingo club, list goes on]"
We all know you need to meet more girls BUT you obsessing over her is a "symptom" of a poor system for meeting women you mutually like.
If you're in a relationship with dynamics you don't like, again that's a symptom of you not knowing or implementing a system to have better LTRs.
I was a cross-gamer for years who got lays from nightgame, apps and daygame. I reflected and realize daygame had a higher portion of girls I'd deem better fit for me long-term, so I simply made a dating system of mostly daygame cold approach to more consistently date girls I was excited about physically and mentally.
BUT DWW, I CAN'T BUILD A SYSTEM BECAUSE OF XYZ, MY SITUATION IS SO DIFFERENT
Remember when I said a system is a "series of connected steps"
You just need to look at each "step" and reason why you "can't" before finding solutions for each step and voilà your new system fixes the problem.
For this to work it requires self-honesty and lack of excuse making
First of all that sucks but it's happened to the best of us. So common situations that may make this hard is you really liked HER. Well if we're being objective and she no longer wants you, you have to find a girl you like just as much if not more than her. If you out of shape, or live in the suburbs, then that means you'll have to go to the gym and move more centrally. If you can't afford that, then it may mean you have to work more hours, or upskill and get a better paying job that needs less hours... You get the idea? Keep drilling down to what's stopping you, find and implement the solution and then that way you have a PERMANENT fix, not something that's dependent on the emotions of a woman which is varied at the best of times
This one is even easier lol. Simply ping her interest, mess up with trial and error a few times until you build a very socially graceful way to meet girls in different contexts... I'd also argue if you get good at meeting more girls you won't be tempted to do this anyway... Or by the time you do, you'll know how to do it well
I live in an expensive western city. I had roommates for years and was happy but got unlucky with a demon who slipped through the net. The "symptom" would be to have power struggles in my home (which I did for 6 months) the SYSTEM solution was to simply find a way to live by myself. I did that, and life's been way better ever since. Was it easy? NO was it worth it HELL-YES
When doesn't this work?
You're unwilling or unable to build or update your system because of black swan life situations (which are less than you think). For example if you're struggling to meet girls because you're living with your elderly sick parents in the middle of nowhere then all power to you.
But 99% of you aren't in a situation like that and if I'm playfully calling you out, just being lazy
It's hard, but the other side is so worth it
I'd also argue it's "easier" to build a system and finally get results you want compared to running in circles with symptoms.
It's like living off medication to cure your headache, when all you needed to do was drink more water...
Onwards and upwards x