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How to not put pussy on the pedestal when you honestly are?

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

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I know outcome independence and not putting pussy on the pedestal are common pieces of advice given but the more I see it, so many of us are and as an inexperienced guy I am.

1. We are on a forum dedicated to helping guys get laid.

2. We go out during the day looking to do approaches.

3. We go to bars looking to do approaches.

For those of us wanting to get better this is the reality with our field reports. We are indirectly admitting to ourselves we want to get pussy even though we might not say it. Our actions reflect that as we are in public attempting to do an approach while others go about their day.

So how do stop from lying to ourselves?
 

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IMO not putting the girl on a pedestal is actually quite difficult task, the best way is to approach the issue on multiple levels...

When you have $5 in your pocket and you want to get a meal for $10, chances are that it simply won't work, you'll be hungry. The meal might be the cheapest one available, but the price is too high for you. You want to increase the amount you have in your pocket to $10. Plus taxes, so say you'll need at least $12, LOL

The same with girl, is she is a high value for you (say $10 just to see it in numbers) that means your value is less than her value; so you need to increase your value to some $12, or more...

Note that prices are rather dynamic, it is all relative and everything changes. For example, if you have $50 in your pocket you would probably want to get a better meal than the one for $10, simply because you can afford it now. With $50 in your pocket you now have purchasing power, you can have say 4 different and better meals. If you have $100, you can chose from say 50 different restaurants...

That is not all though. If you have $5 in your pocket, nobody is interested in you, nobody wants to give you a meal. Nobody really cares if you spent money there or not. But, if you have $20 in your pocket, some places will show interest in you, the situation will start changing... With $100 though, many restaurants will be competing for you - they will exert quite effort to get you back to their place, they will want you to be their regular customer...

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The way it works with girls is similar; you should not spent 100% of your effort on one girl only. You got to spread your effort on more girls, for simplicity say 3-5. If you focus fully on one girl only, you are giving her 100% of your time and attention. She feels it, she knows it right away, and most likely she will dump you because she knows you don't have access to other girls... She is on the pedestal looking down at you - you are Low value man in her eyes... The girl will do NOTHING to keep you around, she will simply not care - she will easily dump you any time she wants because in her eyes you don't really have high value... Nobody wants customers that pay $5, but everybody wants customers that can pay $100...

Now increase your value - spread your effort to more girls, talk to more girls, socialize with more girls, increase your social circle/friends, develop good fundamentals, work on masculinity, learn to be leading man...

... once you increase your value the situation will start changing. Now more girl will show some interest in you. They know you have some value, they will start exerting some effort to "get you", or at least to find out what other girls sees in you...

Keep rolling, keep increasing your value. Remember, everything is rather dynamic - now because more girls show interest in you, more other girls will be attracted to you virtually automatically... Girls talk between each other, they spread the word about you even before you really meet them... You are now the price, not the other way...

In simple math, if you had $100 and you spend it on one girl, you are paying too much price for her. She is on the pedestal because you give her everything you got. But if you spent $20 per girl, on 5 different girls, now you are the one with higher value, you have choices, you have power... You can have 5 girls for that price, not just one... At the same time, more girls will come and show interest, because they know that other girls are interested in you... So you could actually have even more girls by paying even less...

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I'm from old school, I studied PUA before. The way PUA used to get around this issue is, that they sort of pretended to be disinterested in that girl. For example, you meet a girl and you get her number. You called her 3-5 days later, then waited another couple of days before you invited her out. When you were out with her, you kinda played bored and half interested, and so forth...

In reality, guy like that was anxious, he was counting hours before he contacted her. He still had scarce mentality... It was easy to mess out because there was lots of pretending, lots of faking... In essence, he was pretending to have value of $100, yet his real value was $10... Does it work? Sure, it works. But why pretend...???

Better way is to develop Abundance Mentality, not just for girls but for Life in general. For instance, start exercising on Mo-We-Fr, lifting weights, studying, whatever you chose to do. These days completely ignore girls, fully focus on exercise. Then pay attention to girls/approach/whatever you do on other days, Tue-Th-Sa-Su... You can then be interested in the girl as much as you want - but you simply don't have time to see her, because you are focused on other things, if that makes sense... Imagine, you meet a hot girl, there are great vibe, and then you walk away - because you don't have time for her... She will go crazy for you... You are more genuine, you are more attractive because now you have real value, real life...

Now you say that you will be much better off if you start approaching girls 7 days a week. I disagree, LESS is actually more, because with the attitude "Approach any girl 24/7" you seem too hungry, too needy for girls... you are in constant circle of paying 100% attention on girls... Again, girls can smell it, girls know that you have no real life - and many will dump you... That is how guys with 5,000 approaches never get laid, they are so obsessed with girls that the obsession itself is a huge barrier they can't overcome... Get a life, spread your $$$, time and effort on different things... The good thing is that once girls see that you have a real life, many will want to be part of it... So again, you are actually gaining attraction by doing less, not the other way....

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So spread your focus and time on other things, not just on girls. Don't put all $100 and free time/attention on girls - give them 60 and spend the rest 40 on other things, such as fitness, education, financials... You need to have your life, you need to lead in your life, you need to know where to go in your life - that is how they will want to join you rather spontaneously...
 

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Myself, I used to go out once or twice a month, since I've been overly busy...but now, I'm making a commitment to go out 3 times a week. I like to practice street pick-up, prior to heading to a bar of my choice.
 
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