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Romy

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Hey guys. This won't be exactly a situation or something with a specific girl but rather a general issue that I have with myself. This site helped me a lot and I want to continue in my self-development.

I created the feeling of abundance in myself and I know how much value I provide to people in general, not just girls. I'm an ENTJ personality by Briggs Myers' evaluation so those of you who know my type, maybe you can bring a better advice for me. So, the problem I currently have is whenever I fail with a girl and she stays within my social circle (granted, I hang out with bunch of dudes and we rarely stay friends with girls we approach, but it happens on rare occasions), I get the feeling of paranoia or my ego shattering when/if someone else from my social group gets with her. Don't get me wrong, I handle rejection pretty easily, I know I won't see her again. But if she stays within the social group, I get the feeling that my job isn't done and that I should still be trying to get her. You could say that I hate to lose, especially if I know my worth. I read a lot about stoicism and I try to incorporate its teachings on a daily basis just so I could avoid these kinds of feelings, specially because I know how ridiculous this maybe is to some of you.

I know the major gist of it is to just try and get more girls in general, i.e. numbers, meet-ups and so on. But I'd still like to know if there's some psychological way to end this pathetic issue I'm having.

While I'm at it, I'm also having problems with performance anxiety whenever I meet a girl who's DTF. I'm the kind of person who likes to get to know the girl better and then I'm ace, but on the first night, strangers and and all that, uh-uh, it just won't go up. I think too much, I get nervous, you know what I'm talking about.

That's it, boys. Hit me up with some advice. Is there a way to counter those? What can I do to better myself in those areas? Much appreciated.
 

Thedoctor

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Romy,

For your first concern regarding Social Circle rejections, 1 of 2 things happened:

You handled the interaction incorrectly at one part or another. My advice here is to try and figure out where you went wrong. Did you move fast enough, capitalize on escalation windows etc? And if another guy in your group landed her, then this is an opportune time to figure out what he did right that you may not have.

She's not that attracted to you. You will never be attractive to all girls, whether that be your looks or personality, etc. Even if the most skilled seducer is attractive to 50% of the female population, that still means that the other 50% don't find him attractive. That's why it's important to gain investment early on to see if she is genuinely attracted to you. This is the mindset to keep: No matter how good you get, not every girl will find you attractive.

As for your second concern, i think it may be rooted in how you perceive women, particularly ones that are more openly sexual. These article may help:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-m ... inked-west
https://www.girlschase.com/content/leavi ... rogramming

-John
 

Romy

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Thedoctor said:
Romy,

For your first concern regarding Social Circle rejections, 1 of 2 things happened:

You handled the interaction incorrectly at one part or another. My advice here is to try and figure out where you went wrong. Did you move fast enough, capitalize on escalation windows etc? And if another guy in your group landed her, then this is an opportune time to figure out what he did right that you may not have.

She's not that attracted to you. You will never be attractive to all girls, whether that be your looks or personality, etc. Even if the most skilled seducer is attractive to 50% of the female population, that still means that the other 50% don't find him attractive. That's why it's important to gain investment early on to see if she is genuinely attracted to you. This is the mindset to keep: No matter how good you get, not every girl will find you attractive.

As for your second concern, i think it may be rooted in how you perceive women, particularly ones that are more openly sexual. These article may help:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/why-m ... inked-west
https://www.girlschase.com/content/leavi ... rogramming

-John

Thanks for the reply, doctor.

To tell you the truth, I don't really care what I did wrong. Sometimes, it's not about us at all, and I'm pretty sure that my fundamentals are more than great. The second paragraph makes sense to me, yeah. Although, with this girl in particular, I know for a fact that she finds me attractive but she rejected me after the first date. "We just didn't click" was the general reason.

I don't care for the madonna-whore complex, to be honest. My main concern when I'm making out or starting foreplay is the paranoia of me not getting aroused for whatever reason. And logically, I know it's that very same thinking that doesn't get me hard in the first place. I just need to stop with thinking about that bull****, but I don't know how. :)
 

Thedoctor

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Romy,
Romy said:
"We just didn't click" was the general reason.
That's a girl's way of saying something was handled wrong during the interaction. She's not consciously aware of that though, so she chalks it up to "We didn't click" or "there's just no chemistry."

Romy said:
I don't care for the madonna-whore complex, to be honest. My main concern when I'm making out or starting foreplay is the paranoia of me not getting aroused for whatever reason. And logically, I know it's that very same thinking that doesn't get me hard in the first place. I just need to stop with thinking about that bull****, but I don't know how. :)

https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-g ... -new-girls

That article might help you then.

-John
 
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