FR how to respond to women who "stop it or I'll leave"

[lux7]

I was already unexcited by the interaction that I didn't mind she'd go.
However, if one was hell bent in making things happen how do you see a way out?

THE STORY

She liked me, and called me to make this meeting happen, but I wasn't ready/willing to move at her slow pace.

Were were sitting on a couch in my room. Early on she said she likes gentlemen, which never fails to annoy me .
She kept giving strong resistance every time I'd put my hand(s) around her. Like grabbing my hands, looking at me angry and telling me very seriously to stop.

She wasn't willing to go sexual and neither to leave. The rather empty conversation without any physical interaction was draining me.

Finally, I had my hand on her back and she looked at me very angry. But I didn't remove my hand. She said if I didn't take it away, she'd leave.
I didn't see an immediate way out to defuse the situation, and preferred to let her leave rather than "lose" that battle.

I was wondering what could be ways around this situation?

 

[Average]

Lux,

Did you try touching her at a lower level first, e.g touching her hand with your hand, before going up to the steamier things?

The goal with this route is to start off small and figuring out the level of sexual touch she can handle even if its just platonic. From there you can slowly dial it up as you turn her on along the way.

On the first sign of her getting angry, I'd ask her why she doesn't want me to touch her. Then I'd help her through her concerns.

If both of those don't work then it means that one of two things was missing:

1. Sexual intent: she had no idea that you wanted to fuck her
2. Sexual man: She had know idea that you liked to fuck.

And so when she got there she felt surprised in the moment. But usually turning her on passed return solves this problem.

A few other options you could have tried:

1. Push-pull
2. Fractionation
3. Sex talk
4. Persistence until its obvious that she's leaving. However, if you persist in the correct way, then when she does leave, its because you really are turning her on and she fears she won't be able to control herself.

Early on she said she likes gentlemen

Depending on how she said this it could have been a signal that she doesn't want to be just a fuckbuddy, and thus, doesn't want to FEEL treated like one.....I dunno

If you mean what would I do to guarantee sex tonight, that's pretty much it. If you mean guaranteed sex with HER specifically, then I'd just forget about sex tonight and just work on getting her excited about it with ME specifically. Then eventually she'll cum around

Hope this helped

 

[lopprime]

It's a shit test. If she wanted to leave she would have gotten up right there and then when you started to touch her thigh. The way she said it is important. If she said it in an aggressive and dry tone then you know she's serious. If she said it in a sexy kind of manner it's because she wants you to chase and she's just being difficult. Best thing to do if you don't know is just starting from the top in terms of the conversation and slowly building momentum through light touching. If she rejects again then she may not be into you much.

 

[Sandman]

Hmmm I agree with Ash and lopprime that it's good to start small and additonaly what I do in that kind of situation is laugh it off, say something like don't be weird shall I poke you with a this (grabbing sth nearby like a pencil) HAHA then continue with the conversation as if nothing happened and touch her later on. If she still resists touch then throw on a bored expression and withhold attention from her. Wait for her to engage you and afterwards start touching again.

A word of advice if a girl is telling you to take your hand angrily, just take your hand away. You're not gonna accomplish anything by forcing your attention on her.

That said some women are weird about touching, even small touches, these kind of interactions don't usually go anywhere much. Maybe it just requires a higher level of game but I'm sure even pros like Chase or Hector encounter women like that once in a while. Analyse what you could have done better but don't beat yourself over it. It's a numbers game after all.

I'd be interested to know what others think about this.