How too approach night game solo ?

[Mr. oblivious]

Through the last few week I have confirmed that during night game I am way too alcohol dependant. Tonight I found myself in a position where I went out with a friend and during that period I was approaching proactively and even received a picture of a girl naked saying "come fuck me" who was in the same club.

But when my friend left due to being too drunk I found myself just wondering around got a few looks and engaged in some sexual eye contact but I found i produce 0 results and didn't make any progress on a night, that seemed like it was full proof interms of potentially getting a LR. I'm not sure if the failure was due to complaceny, due too setting up many potential foursomes/approaching groups of girls with my friend and setting a group frame which was broken due too his departure which I failed too recover from due to lack of solo experience or due too reacting very too slow too the indications of interest I was receiving constantly.

I can't pin pin exactly where I fucked up but I do know being alcohol dependant definetly took its toll ( mmy head in spinning as I write this) also my lack of solo experience which inhibited my ability too capitlaises on the girls I had talked too or approach new girls.

I know this is a long post but this is mainly for me too reflect on when sober but tips on the matter of solo night game would be greatly appreciated especially in smaller towns where you are definetly going too see people you know. Also tips on reducing alcohol consumption in a society which is demands it eg pre drinks with lots of drinking games

Happy reading

 

[Mr.Rob]

Also tips on reducing alcohol consumption in a society which is demands it eg pre drinks with lots of drinking games

Don't really know what you mean here by "in a society which demands drinking". Society doesn't demand drinking but it is considered "the norm" when at a bar. That is the definition of a bar in the first place but just because it is "the norm" doesn't mean you have to be.

I haven't had a drop of alcohol since I've turned 21 and I've hit the bars/clubs every single week/weekend since my 21st birthday and pulled many girls from nightgame since then.

All alcohol is is social lubricant. It inebriates you so that you stop thinking so much and can "get out of your head" and have fun. Social conditioning conditions society to believe that you can't have fun if you do not drink or at the least you will not have as much fun being sober than if you drank.

All complete bullshit. I used to be a borderline alcoholic from the age of 16-19 and even though I had a lot of fun I have to say I have A LOT more fun now than I ever did back then and I never drink.

For gaming I highly recommend you learn to game sober for a multitude of reasons but the best reasons are as follows:

1. When you drink you create false confidence - Meaning in order to feel charismatic and confident you need alcohol in order to do so. You don't have real confidence that you just carry with you all the time (not saying you don't have real confidence but you catch my drift here).

2. You are completely sharp and on point when sober- When you game sober you do not have to worry about getting sloppy because you are sharp as fuck. You can think quicker and be 2 steps ahead at all times. I tend to look at seduction more as a chess game (while still appearing and actually having a TON of fun) so being 2 steps ahead and knowing what is going on around me and in her mind helps tremendously when dealing with the inevitable bull shit you must endure in nightgame (friends, competitive dudes, loud music, easily distracted girls, etc).

Alcohol is a crutch and if you drink to the point of being buzzed-to-drunk every time you go out I would imagine it would be hard to reach an elite level in game because you would forget/not internalize your mistakes you made and course correct. Try writing up an in depth field report of exactly what was said and what happened in a particular interaction when you were drunk.

However this route isn't for everyone and it certainly isn't easy to master if you are used to drinking (because you are going to suck shit and feel awkward as shit if you are sober in a club) and if you are satisfied with your results I hold no judgement to those that do drink, but if you are going to reach an elite level in game I think it would be hard to do if you are dependent on alcohol to get results.

So I guess it depends on what you want. If you just want to go out have fun, not "work", and pull girls like you have been keep doing what you are doing.

If you want to reach an elite level of game and get to the point where you can pull just about any girl you want (which btw I'm not even there yet) and handle any nightgame social situation like a boss I would stop drinking.

If you are going to stop drinking I would just quit cold turkey and just go through the pain period of approaching sober. Lose your ego (you won't have much of a choice haha). Don't judge yourself if you don't get results immediately and keep working on it until you can be at the same level as your drunk self right now.

Good luck.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

tips on the matter of solo night game would be greatly appreciated especially in smaller towns where you are definetly going too see people you know.

Right I have mastered this to some extent as well.

Solo night game is one thing, but solo night game when people actually know you is something a bit different as well.

I had no friends to go out with when I first started night gaming in my small town where I know a decent amount of people so I had to figure it out quick.

For the most part it's mostly in your head and no one cares about you as much as you think. Yeah you look a little bit of an outcast but it really won't be too huge of a factor as long as you are cool, social-able, and clearly offering value to everyone you talk with rather than being a social liability and leeching value.

RSD Jeffy has a good analogy for this being that "you want to see your interactions with people through the following lens: Are you (A) trying to weasel your way into their party or are you (B) bringing the party to everyone you talk with". Obviously you can be having a party with just yourself and bring people into your party (positive and non needy emotions).

The main thing about going out solo in a small town is that you need to make new friends IMMEDIATELY and appear high value.

When going out solo it is incredibly easy to get stuck in your head and in "excuse making momentum" as opposed to "action taking momentum".

This will happen when you get into a venue by yourself, you start scanning the room (which by the way don't do), and you see a couple girls you want to talk to but they are all talking to other people so you tell yourself the lie that no one is approachable right now so you will wait.... then as you wait you get more stuck in your head and feel like everyone is looking at you and thinking you are weird. Worse yet you'll see someone you know and make eye contact with them and look away hoping they didn't recognize you even though they did and then you feel even more weirded out so you change venues thinking it will make a difference and then once you get to the new venue the cycle repeats itself and you go home only having approached one girl and asked "how is your night going?" to which she blew you out because you were stuck in your head and weird.

Yeah DON'T do that! That shit SUCKS!!! I've had this happen quite a few times and even sometimes still happens to me on a bad night. You want to avoid this at all costs and you do that by building "action taking momentum".

You need to talk to the very first person you see the moment you get out of your car. Give them a high five and tell them it's time to party.

While walking to your venue you need to say "whats up" in a positive manner every person you pass on the street.

Greet the bouncer enthusiastically and joke around by asking him how many people he's thrown out so far.

As soon as you get in the bar approach an unintimidating group of girls and don't even try and game them just give them a compliment and try and have a bit of fun.

That's the key in my opinion to nightgame and especially solo nightgame is to start having so much fun you forget you are even by yourself.

Keep talking to different girls and don't minimize time you are not talking to anyone. Talk to everyone guys and girls. Sometimes you might even hit it off with a guy and get a wingman for the night. The best way to get a wingman for the night is to be talking to a cool guy and then leave to approach a group of girls real quick (preferably two girls one for each of you) and move them to where you and the guy are.

Boom the guy is amazed you have the balls to do that, impressed, and is now thinks you are the coolest mother fucker ever since you are both now talking to hot girls. Talk about offering value.

If you don't get a makeshift wingman just keep building social/action taking momentum until you feel at ease and cool in the environment (should take about 30 min. to an hour). Once you feel more "in state" then start hitting shit hard and pushing your interactions further and further with girls that are receptive to you. Get physical and be polarizing. Screen out girls that aren't into you as soon as possible and move things along with the girls that are into you. Be a hard closer with the girls that move and comply with you and pull like a mother fucking boss.

Questions? Comments? Concerns?

hope that helped a bit.

 

[Mr. oblivious]

Thanks for the reply Rob some very very useful and insightful information

Just clarifying my mistake by social society I ment social circle. Typically going to the clubs is a thing we do as a group and typically has a pre drinking session in which it is very frowned upon too not take part in.

I am realising the effects of on sharpness cause usually when I reflect on a night I can notice many missed opportunities I really want to remove alcohol or get to the stage where i can be more fluent "get out of my head" like when I'm drinking alcohol with out it

I could see solo game requirng lots of social momentum and also requiring lots of resilience

You pretty much cover all my queries thanks a lot again

 

[Mr. oblivious]

I just came back from a partially sober night and too be honest overall it was not bad.

At the beginning to be honest I was found myself stuck in my head too much which resulted in slight drinking but as we where out super early for the prime time I was practically sober.

I also went out with only another buddy and frequently split and again I found myself in my head looking all over the shop not making any approaches .


A majority of the night was spent on the dance floor and bring the earliest Iv been out gonna say never experienced such sore legs. Beside the sore legs I found since I ws drunk I did notice a lot more approach invitations and signs of interest but I noticed I was much more hesitant on trying to capitalise and when I did try I was so much less smooth (probably in my head but lots of situations which would of turned into physicality just ended in strong eye contact or kinda just brief touching

On a real positive I was able too some real natural friends work thief Magic on the d floor both using different approaches one using a high risk high reward doing a standout sexual body movement to girls which when it worked resulted in Huge attraction but when it failed very obvious declines

The other was more the smooth side not sure he does it but he is very very good at creating bubbles with girls on the d floor even talking too them or on many occasion standing low against the wall with them