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How valuable a currency is your non sexual attention

LouisVuitton

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This post pertains to when you’re pursuing a female textually. Either over a dating app, imessage, what’sapp, text messages...

Non sexual attention is one currency in which you can use to acquire her sexual attention. Prior to sex your sexual attention is not going to be very valuable unless she perceives your value to be high, relative to hers. Sexting can be an effective way to get her turned on and wanting to meet, but it’s very risky, even if you know what you’re doing.

If she is attracted to you, you’re non sexual attention can be either very valuable or less valuable than a handful of pesos.

How valuable your attention is comes down to supply and demand. If you are very free and willing to give away your attention it will lose its value. Unless your perceived value is very high she will not be motivated to trade her sexual attention for your non sexual attention, because she can get it for free.

The key to having valuable non sexual attention is that it must be scarce. In most cases women are not attracted to men who are overly available.

If your attention is scarce and hard to come by, and she is attracted to you, you can use your attention as leverage to acquire her sexual attention.

Building up then pulling back is the method I use when I sense that a girl is willing to fuck me for her attention. This works best with more attractive girls that are getting a lot of attention.

The process is as follows. You give her attention. When you are asking her to hang out you get the sense that she doesn’t want to stop talking to you (ie she wants your attention) but she doesn’t seem that interested in meeting. When I realize this I will temporarily give her more attention. I will FaceTime her and text her more to get to know her better, without trying to meet. At the point I can tell my attention is valuable enough to her that she doesn’t want to lose it, I will take it away. Then when she reaches back out I will tell her that I’m not much of a texter but I had wanted to meet her. So I put the ball on her court and give her the option of contacting me IF she wants to meet up. Within a couple days it’s likely she will want to meet. This should be done over text after you have got her off the app, if that’s how you acquired the lead.

This is what I’ve been doing during quarantine. It is hard right now to get girls to meet. It is also important to acknowledge her concerns right now. There are a lot of concerns girls can be having and they’re all very legitimate. We’re living in a strange time. If you’re not getting to the bottom of her objections and handling them in an empathetic way then pulling back attention isn’t going to work. This is just one part of the equation. Things are difficult for me right now. I’ve never taken such a deep look at the dynamics of text game as right now.

Timing is also one of the most important factors in getting girls to meet over apps/texting. There are two timing strategies. The one a lot of guys go for is trying to get dtf girls to come over the night you match. This is a viable strategy if the girl is very dtf. I have not been finding this to work during quarantine.The girls I’ve been meeting, whether from apps or I had their number or social media from the past, on average have been taking ten days. The second strategy regarding time, which I find effective currently, is taking things slow. A message or two a day is sufficient. Take longer than she takes. And let her send the last message if the day.

There’s never been a better time to tighten up text game. I wish I would’ve done this a long time ago. Since things are hard and I’m getting the impression from here that most guys are having trouble, I thought I’d share what’s working for me. I hope this helps someone.
 
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Mrbolton

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Thank you. I have been trying to move things too fast. I know that I seem needy. How would I control my instincts when they’re not serving me well? Also do you have any examples of this working? I’m not having trouble getting matches but no one wants to meet me. I’m open to learning, but I’m not finding any advice.
 

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I’m not having trouble getting matches but no one wants to meet me. I’m open to learning, but I’m not finding any advice.
Talk us more about the girls you match with:

1) Are they Instagram model beautiful, regular girl, cute but a little chubby...?
2) Do you get into fun conversations? Or are they long and interview like?
3) Are you getting her number before the ask? Does she give it away?
4) What objection are you getting to the meet?

With that information we can give you more detailed advice tailored to your situation.

But overall what I have learned from dating apps is the following:

-It's a numbers game.
If you invite each and every girl who matches with you, chances are you are going to meet 1 on 6.
As you spend time on the app, you will learn how to tell apart who is serious and who is making you lose your time. This comes with experience.

-Hot girls don't stay long. They use dating apps mostly for validation. If you are focusing too much on them, you are losing your time.
Dating apps is good to get regular girls with decent to high sex drives... or chubby/crazy girls who might do good for friends with benefits.
It's great to rack up numbers and experience, though.

-Long conversations don't fare well.
Women get validation from many guys chasing around her so she is likely to keep talking with you until you end it or she gets bored of you.
Your best bet is having a exciting convo, hit one or two high points and ask for her number. Basically, reach a hook point and change the environment.
You will have it easier once you have her personal info. She is not used to give it away often so that build momentum for you.
 

LouisVuitton

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Hot girls don't stay long. They use dating apps mostly for validation. If you are focusing too much on them, you are losing your time.
Dating apps is good to get regular girls with decent to high sex drives... or chubby/crazy girls who might do good for friends with benefits.
It's great to rack up numbers and experience, though.

The hottest girls I’ve met online have all taken a minimum of three days to meet. Usually about a week. With the hottest girls most guys are trying to get them to meet fast. If she’s going to make a decision for a quick meet up it’s either because you are her hottest option or you got her turned on. But you’re not going to be most girls hottest options, if any. For me it’s best to take it slow and let it develop. I haven’t had the issue of only being able to get average of chubby chick.
 

LouisVuitton

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@Mrbolton here is a lay report I posted to another site. I’d hooked up with her in September and had not texted her since, until May. It had been eight months. It took about ten days to get her to meet. Patience wins. She had concerns like corona and that I hadn’t talked to her in so long. But I knew she found me attractive enough to hook up with. So obviously sent her a picture. After that I took my time and wasn’t there as her emotional tampon.

here’s the report. That site is a really good resource for texting and apps. Not so much for cold approach.
 
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ulrich

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@Mrbolton here is a lay report I posted to another site. I’d hooked up with her in September and had not texted her since, until May. It had been eight months. It took about ten days to get her to meet. Patience wins. She had concerns like corona and that I hadn’t talked to her in so long. But I knew she found me attractive enough to hook up with. So obviously sent her a picture. After that I took my time and wasn’t there as her emotional tampon.

here’s the report. That site is a really good resource for texting and apps. Not so much for cold approach.

Good observation.
Corona is something to consider.

It's been a really long time since I did dating apps but I tried Bumble this week and have a date tomorrow.
I guess I am her hottest option LOL :p
 

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Good observation.
Corona is something to consider.

It's been a really long time since I did dating apps but I tried Bumble this week and have a date tomorrow.
I guess I am her hottest option LOL :p

Maybe update me if it happens. I’ve had a bunch of dates fall through. If she does flake try to find the reason and work through it.if she has an objection don’t rush to rebut her. also if she ghosts a good message is “I didn’t take you for the flaky type.” Welcome to the lions den. I could send you so many screenshots of girls who made dates then flaked. I wish you the best but it’s brutal right now. Hopefully your experience is better.

Welcome back to the apps. Let me know how it goes. If it does fall through I’ll offer you some feedback if you like.

If the chick isn’t that hot that would probably work too. If you look at the lay report you’ll get an idea of the type of girls I’m with.
 
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I’m sure a lot of guys are fed up with all the chatty kathys and flakes online right now. How do you know which match wants to waste your time and which one is available for some cuddling?

The key is to screen the time wasters out. Do this through sexualization. Here’s an example of an opener that would do this:

“I wouldn’t be disappointed if I walked into the kitchen and you were the only snack.”

It’s clever, funny, and sets the frame that I’m interested in more than just chatting.

A bio is a great way to do this too. Are you dominant? Submissive? Into anything in specific? List it on your bio. Whatever you are there is a girl looking for that. Why make it a guessing game for her. Also it lets her know that you are not just there to chat. A bio could be as simple as:

“Seeking quarantine boo thing for cuddles.”

That is not a good bio, per se. But it’s a lot better than what most guys have as its relevant to the situation we are currently in. Or you could go with:

“corona free with great immune system seeks same.”

My bio states that I’m dominant and have great oral skills. Do I get less matches? Of course. I’ve weeded out a lot of lonely girls who would’ve never actually met. So my leads are far more qualified. Also, a sexualized bio allows me to go a lot farther with much less worry about being reported.

Don’t make this whole quarantine thing a big deal. Excuses are not cool. If you’re not having success with women currently it is on you. It’s not the governments fault or anyone else’s. Restrictions have gotten much more lax and girls are bored and horny.

Dating has been moving in this direction all along. Coronavirus is just speeding it up. it’s good to have a positive outlook regarding cold approach pickup moving forward. But the writing has been on the wall. We live in a digital society. This should be a wake up call to us all. Online game is a skill that is important to have.
 
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