FU I’m not sure if I handled bitchiness well, lack of directness?

[Start_ed_young]

Alright, so today I approached the table from my last FR a second time time in the last 6 minutes minutes of lunch. I walked over (don’t know how they don’t see me until sat down (hint?)) I sit in the same spot as last time. When I sit down they all look pissed when they realize I sat there, all 3 of them (which was a surprise to me) I say, “ hey, I’m back, hows it’s—“ the lead bitch cuts me off and says, “ I’m not fucking doing this again” I say “oh, we’re fucking doing this again”
Her: groans, why don’t you just go sit back with your friends
Me: it’s not illegal to sit here ya know, chill. (Probs not the best move)
Her: gets up and walks to throw some imaginary stuff away.
The other two: follows her

I didn’t realize that she wasn’t leaving for good, so I went to sit back with my friends. They told she didn’t leave go back over. I took this advice

Me: walks up ( this time the girl who “seems” to “dislike” me the least notices me before I sit down)
Me: look look, I think we got off on the wrong foot ladies”
Leader: yea, I dont
Me: (the other two are watching) “shouldn’t you two be studying for some test? *sarcasm
THem: no actually (they get up to throw trash away)
Leader: (didn’t even finish what she was eating, gets up and goes to throw it away)
Me: (follows) “hey weren’t you gonna finish that?
Leader: just leave and go back to your friends k?
We all sat back down together
Me: “look, last time, it wasn’t a bet, but this time it is (it sort of was, guess I shouldn’t take those anymore eh?)
Leader: then how come all your friends were watching like that
Me: (ignores it) here can I have your number? (I knew that was a terrible time and way to ask, but at this point I didn’t really want it anyway and my friends told me to “try”
Her: (looks at me for the first time, pauses) No
Me: thank you, I’ll go now.
As I get up to leave I walk a yard and turn to her and say “hey I respect what you did there saying no just cause it was a bet, that’s the reason you did it right? Must have been hard.”

She’s looking at me but just groans. I leave this time.

After lunch, lunch I grabbed my friend and we walked behind the girls with some people between us obviously, but I decided that I would be as loud and noticeable as possible. I start yelling in the halls stuff like “ DUDE, DID YOU SEE ME GO TALK TO THOSE GIRLS, THEY WERE TOTALLLLY INTO ME MAN” just stuff like that over and over. It didn’t draw a response even thought they could obviously hear us, but I didn’t care (it was fun for me so I just kept going)
They were a few feet away from us up the stairs and I yell man, those were some of the baddest chicks I’ve EVVVEER SEEN AND THEY WERE TOTALLY INTO ME” ,
I’m not 100% sure if it was a total fuck up or not, but from her the move I’d like to make is, maybe pull the leader if that’s still at all possible or on the cardd? Or at least repair my rep in their eyes and get friend zoned?
Overall, I’m in a bit of a pickle here, and since this is at school I’d like some advice on how to get out of it at least. Or is it good to have some people hat you, if they do. For some reason I have some sort of a gut feeling that they are still interested, possible?

As always thanks for any advice/ideas, HELP! Plz

 

[Big Daddy]

Why do you feel you lacked in directness? This was as direct as it gets.

You have mad balls bro, you keep doing that and calibrating to the responses you get, in a few years you will be solid. Going in multiple times, asking for the number just for the hell of it, props again.

Now your first impressions with these girls were not the best one as I told you in the last thread, so you were doomed from the beginning. Probably very little you could do to salvage the situation. Also, tell your friends to not look at you when you are talking to girls – or better yet, don't do it so blatantly they are going to see every time.

As I get up to leave I walk a yard and turn to her and say “hey I respect what you did there saying no just cause it was a bet, that’s the reason you did it right? Must have been hard.”

No, she just wasn't really attracted to you. It happens. It happens most of the time, to be honest. Accept this and learn how to graciously rejected. Saying you "respect" her after she rejected you rewards her attitude and just put you in a lower position than she is. Say "no worries, have an awesome day," walk away and proceed with your day.

After lunch, lunch I grabbed my friend and we walked behind the girls with some people between us obviously, but I decided that I would be as loud and noticeable as possible.

Chase has a line I love: if you have to say it, it probably isn't true. Meaning, when you start having mad success with girls everyone is going to take note of it. The fact that you to boast loudly about it is evidence that it isn't the case and everyone also take note of it. Don't need to bring any more attention to the fact that you were rejected. This girl is out of the cards for now, go talk to some other girls.

Just lay low for a week or two from ultra direct approaches; try some more indirect approaches such as girls who are nearby you, girls who sit next / approach you, girls alone in the yard, shit like that. Be seen with other girls but be more discreet about it.

If you want another shot with her, forget her for about 12-24 months, work heavily on yourself (body, style, pre-selection), and if it's noticeable (again, by actions) she'll be more receptive to your advances in the future.

 

[Bboy100]

Sorry I can't find the first part of this FR, so forgive me if I'm missing some details. I don't know how this confrontation started, but at this point, it sounds like your very presence annoys or even angers them. What they're doing is not the kind of bitchiness Chase talks about when girls are horny. These girls are genuinely repelled by you. It's not even sexual disgust. They actively dislike you as a person and don't even want to be around you. So there's really no reason to be there anymore. You've dug yourself into a hole which is not worth climbing out of with them.

Moreover, after they told you as bluntly as possible that they're not into you and don't want you around, you stayed. This is just straight up disrespectful to them. It's like what they're saying to you either doesn't matter, or doesn't register with you. Either way, staying there shows an utter disregard for their desires, thus leading them to like you even less.

I don't know for sure if you actually did anything to cause this. But based on your dialogue in this FR (e.g. mocking her friends) I'd be willing to bet you did. Link me the first part of this FR and I can give you better input on what specifically happened.
But even if you didn't do anything to deserve this behavior and they're genuinely being bitches, you really have nothing to gain from staying around them. Go find greener pastures elsewhere

I start yelling in the halls stuff like “ DUDE, DID YOU SEE ME GO TALK TO THOSE GIRLS, THEY WERE TOTALLLLY INTO ME MAN” just stuff like that over and over. It didn’t draw a response even thought they could obviously hear us, but I didn’t care (it was fun for me so I just kept going)
They were a few feet away from us up the stairs and I yell man, those were some of the baddest chicks I’ve EVVVEER SEEN AND THEY WERE TOTALLY INTO ME” ,

Also, don't do shit like this. This is women (and most men who might otherwise want to be your friend) repellent.

 

[Start_ed_young]

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Link to previous fr

 

[Bboy100]

So in your first post, the girls were definitely slightly creeped out by the fact that you randomly came to sit at their table. Sounds like you're in high school...so I get that. They're probably not used to this. Other than that, you did kinda insult a few of their friends which definitely didn't help you. But based on how you described it, it seems like when you left the first time (as described at the end of your first post), they still weren't hostile towards you. They just didn't really know why you're sitting with them/what you're doing. Whereas when you went back in (as described in this post), they were straight up angry and dismissive of you. Which is fairly unusual transition unless you did something to personally attack or offend them. Are you sure you're not missing anything here? Are there any details you've left out? Even if you don't think it's relevant, tell us everything that happened.

 

[Start_ed_young]

First of all, big daddy, I guess I didnt really know what direct and indirect meant. What I was meaning is potentially I didn’t make my intentions/desire clear in the first approach, since they thought it was a dare, they didn’t probably take anything I said the slightest bit seriously. Almost like they were in autopilot as if I were reading off a script. Due to this, the next time I was there they saw it as nothing more than me wasting their time, so they wanted me to leave at anyway possible.

And to Bboy100, I guess the paragraph above is sort of my interpretation of why they went from neutral to hostile. Also I was already aware that some of this stuff wasn’t the best way to attract these girls but I wasn’t into it at that point just trying to get you guys to help me assess how deep the hole I’m in with them

Today, I believe I have actually filled the hole quite a bit, enough for me, probably won’t go over there again because. Now they don’t hate me to the point where they will call all their friends off of me at all costs for no reason. So basically we’ll say I was able to stop the bleeding. If your interested to know how I regained some of my status in their eyes I could share, but I’m no longer concerned with them girls, and think I understand what I did. Wrong