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Finally I recently had some success. Only 2 days after a date which ended with kissing only (see FR+ : Beginner’s Luck) I got laid. And just as I was about to move out from the city for good I get this unexpected goodbye in the form of a local sexy girl… I am posting this even though I didn't do much to pull it off, mainly to get some help on LMR because there’s much more to it than I imagined and also because I think it is interesting that there were some points where the interaction could have ended suddenly, but thankfully I got through.
So, me and a good friend went to a big club to see a great DJ, not intending to try pickup. As we were standing in the smoking area we were approached by 2 girls who asked for a lighter. I didn’t read much into it so I kept my mouth shut.
After that we went inside and started dancing. After sometime I try to figure out with my friend if there are more rooms to this club, with different music. At that point, the aforementioned 2 girls walk past us and stand next to us.
Not thinking too much, I asked one of them if they have been there before because we were trying to find out about the different rooms. My bad accent combined with the loudness of the music made me incomprehensible and after a couple of tries she flat out told me that I am not making any sense.
Now normally I would give in to the pressure and tell her to forget about it, but something made me persist. I gestured her to wait, I took my phone out, typed my question (taking my sweet time about it) and showed her. I am mentioning this because at the moment it seemed like an awkward and doomed to fail start but when I thought about it afterwards I realized that her waiting for me to type was an investment, even a minor one.
So when I showed her the phone she either didn’t see the text question or she saw it and completely ignored it and she asked me “Oh you want my number?” to which I play along and say “Yeah sure”. I regret to say that she practically did all the work for me since at that point I realized that this girl was hooked from the beginning and I had a good shot at her.
She typed her number and her name, let’s call her Lexie, I then kept her close to me and within minutes we started making out. This happened at the very beginning of the night so I figured I had to give her something to keep her around long enough to pull, at my level it would be out of the question to maintain sexual tension for long. We continued making out and dancing for hours, so I am going to skip most of the intermediate facts.
I will only mention some key points:
- Not sure about the correct club behavior, I made it a point to go against my natural instincts and instead of chasing after her all night, I stand my ground when she moved and even didn’t bother when some dude talked to her. In general I tried to display that I don’t care.
- She was frequently grinding her ass on my dick and she led my hand up her blouse to feel her tits.
- She went into a monologue listing her accomplishments without even me asking (Maybe viewing me as high value and trying to display high value herself?)
- When I told her that she made me very hard she told me that she is not going to sleep with me tonight even though she wants to, because I she doesn’t do that on the first night.
- She asked me to text her the next day because she would feel too embarrassed to contact me, so we could go for a proper date.
Now seeing that she was going down the boyfriend street, I decided to change things a bit and told her that I am moving out of the city in a couple days (entirely true, but after this success I am thinking of keeping this as a backup lie).
I immediately observed small changes in her behavior. After a few minutes:
We got a cab and on the way I made the mistake of being very quiet. It turned out fine because she just couldn’t stop talking but need to be careful in the future to not let things die on the way. At some point she told her friend that we could all take a shower together and then lie on the same bed. My imagination started running wild at the possibility but I jokingly said “I don’t know about that, sounds awful”.
HER HOUSE
Funny thing is that we get there and I remembered Chase about having girls over at your place, I figured wouldn’t hurt to try the same at her place, so I told her that we should take our shoes off which she found a brilliant idea.
I am not sure if it is something strange or standard as I am very inexperienced but we agreed to take a shower together as soon as her friend finishes. So she stayed with just her underwear and slipped under the covers and I nearly fucked up because I started asking questions about her past instead of escalating then and there but when I escalated 5 min later her friend got out so it was out “turn”. She changed her mind and told me she is sorry but she better get in there alone and I told her that it is absolutely fine.
I waited for 5 min and when she got out asked if I want a shower as well and after a night of sweaty dancing I played it safe and jumped in for a quick shower. When I finished I found her and her friend lied down under the covers and my imagination started again running wild. Her friend asked if she should leave and before I got a chance to speak Lexie told her to stay!!!. That was a close call because it could easily have ended there with all of us going to sleep together but thank God her friend got up to go to the bathroom so I immediately started kissing Lexie and escalating and when her friend came back and saw us like that she had the common sense to get the fuck out.
Again I started kissing Lexie everywhere and I believe she was getting into the mood but she told me that she couldn't have sex because of her period, I told her that I don't mind and it doesn't make a difference, all we need to do is lay a towel at the bottom to protect the sheets. She seemed really relieved and eased up immediately, and she opened her legs so I started fingering her while she resisted before. She then got up and got the towel.
When she came back she pushed me and started giving me a great blowjob, with just a white t-shirt on with no bra. Though I was thoroughly enjoying it I realized that I was over stimulated and that I wouldn't cum anytime soon. She continued for a bit and when she seemed tired I told her that if she wants she can stop because it might take some time. She lied next to me and out of nowhere she told me that she was too tired to continue.
I started panicking a bit because I was just too close to leave empty handed and tried to remember ways to persist so I started whispering in her ear that it was too bad and that I was about to lick her for 20 minutes straight and things like that, while at the same time rubbing her with my hand. To my great surprise it worked (I still can't believe it) and as I was starting kissing her body and going lower, she took off her panties, turned around doggystyle gave me some lube and told me to use it.
Her ass was something else, big but incredibly tight without the tiniest fat cell. I lubed her up, put on a condom and while I expected some difficulty, I slipped it inside as easily as getting some cold water from the fridge. I started thrusting and there were some coordination issues because she was moving against me as well, but I think it was fine. Not sure if she is supposed to be moving against you? Because I think I would have done a much better job if I could move freely.
After a while like that she got a bit higher in a proper doggystyle but this was very uncomfortable because for some reason her pussy was higher than my dick. She took action and pushed me back, started riding me in a reverse cowgirl. Amazing view, but my dick was practically bending, risking broken penis so I wasn't enjoying it. I told her to switch at the front, to which she complied with the slightest hint of not wanting to in her eyes. The front cowgirl was very fun for me but after some time she started looking aloof and then she dismounted and told me that she feels very strange and tired and just wants to sleep.
I wasn’t ready to stop so I decided to persist, I kissed her a bit and managed to finger her with my left hand which even though she obviously enjoyed, stopped and closed her legs. I persisted some more and I wasn't getting anywhere so I told her that I don’t want to persist and I will leave if she wants and she told me in a complaining way that I had already been quite persistent (at that comment I actually felt bad). I asked her if I should leave and she told me that I could stay if I wanted to. I had to catch a train in a few hours so i decided to leave.
When I got dressed, I was about to leave and she asked me for a goodbye kiss and she apologized and told me to not take it personally. I told her that it is no big deal and left her to sleep. The next day I was genuinely concerned about her and I found her to be a lovely girl so I texted her warmly and she replied warmly as well so I guess we parted our ways in peace.
So this is what happened. I still feel lucky because she was obviously sexually comfortable and experienced and I got away with many mistakes that I normally wouldn’t. I would love to hear your opinion on if her decision to stop was because I wasn’t satisfying her. I won’t beat myself up over it, this happened some time ago actually, I just want to learn and improve.
Also, since I was leaving I knew that I wouldn’t see her again and I didn’t contact her again. If we lived in the same city, do you think it would be worth a shot to try to make her a fuck buddy even though I know that she didn’t enjoy herself on our first time? Has anyone pulled that off?
My biggest concern now is how to know when to stop escalating. I don’t want to keep persisting when there is no point and come off as pushy. Going through other reports hasn’t helped and I gather that you can never know for sure.
Takeaway conclusions:
-Never take no as granted (best advice for women ever)
-Resistance may come in various forms and knowing when to stop is very difficult.
-As recommended by Chase (I think I have seen it written somewhere) period sex is not a big deal for women if we seem to be fine with it.
So, me and a good friend went to a big club to see a great DJ, not intending to try pickup. As we were standing in the smoking area we were approached by 2 girls who asked for a lighter. I didn’t read much into it so I kept my mouth shut.
After that we went inside and started dancing. After sometime I try to figure out with my friend if there are more rooms to this club, with different music. At that point, the aforementioned 2 girls walk past us and stand next to us.
Not thinking too much, I asked one of them if they have been there before because we were trying to find out about the different rooms. My bad accent combined with the loudness of the music made me incomprehensible and after a couple of tries she flat out told me that I am not making any sense.
Now normally I would give in to the pressure and tell her to forget about it, but something made me persist. I gestured her to wait, I took my phone out, typed my question (taking my sweet time about it) and showed her. I am mentioning this because at the moment it seemed like an awkward and doomed to fail start but when I thought about it afterwards I realized that her waiting for me to type was an investment, even a minor one.
So when I showed her the phone she either didn’t see the text question or she saw it and completely ignored it and she asked me “Oh you want my number?” to which I play along and say “Yeah sure”. I regret to say that she practically did all the work for me since at that point I realized that this girl was hooked from the beginning and I had a good shot at her.
She typed her number and her name, let’s call her Lexie, I then kept her close to me and within minutes we started making out. This happened at the very beginning of the night so I figured I had to give her something to keep her around long enough to pull, at my level it would be out of the question to maintain sexual tension for long. We continued making out and dancing for hours, so I am going to skip most of the intermediate facts.
I will only mention some key points:
- Not sure about the correct club behavior, I made it a point to go against my natural instincts and instead of chasing after her all night, I stand my ground when she moved and even didn’t bother when some dude talked to her. In general I tried to display that I don’t care.
- She was frequently grinding her ass on my dick and she led my hand up her blouse to feel her tits.
- She went into a monologue listing her accomplishments without even me asking (Maybe viewing me as high value and trying to display high value herself?)
- When I told her that she made me very hard she told me that she is not going to sleep with me tonight even though she wants to, because I she doesn’t do that on the first night.
- She asked me to text her the next day because she would feel too embarrassed to contact me, so we could go for a proper date.
Now seeing that she was going down the boyfriend street, I decided to change things a bit and told her that I am moving out of the city in a couple days (entirely true, but after this success I am thinking of keeping this as a backup lie).
I immediately observed small changes in her behavior. After a few minutes:
We got a cab and on the way I made the mistake of being very quiet. It turned out fine because she just couldn’t stop talking but need to be careful in the future to not let things die on the way. At some point she told her friend that we could all take a shower together and then lie on the same bed. My imagination started running wild at the possibility but I jokingly said “I don’t know about that, sounds awful”.
HER HOUSE
Funny thing is that we get there and I remembered Chase about having girls over at your place, I figured wouldn’t hurt to try the same at her place, so I told her that we should take our shoes off which she found a brilliant idea.
I am not sure if it is something strange or standard as I am very inexperienced but we agreed to take a shower together as soon as her friend finishes. So she stayed with just her underwear and slipped under the covers and I nearly fucked up because I started asking questions about her past instead of escalating then and there but when I escalated 5 min later her friend got out so it was out “turn”. She changed her mind and told me she is sorry but she better get in there alone and I told her that it is absolutely fine.
I waited for 5 min and when she got out asked if I want a shower as well and after a night of sweaty dancing I played it safe and jumped in for a quick shower. When I finished I found her and her friend lied down under the covers and my imagination started again running wild. Her friend asked if she should leave and before I got a chance to speak Lexie told her to stay!!!. That was a close call because it could easily have ended there with all of us going to sleep together but thank God her friend got up to go to the bathroom so I immediately started kissing Lexie and escalating and when her friend came back and saw us like that she had the common sense to get the fuck out.
Again I started kissing Lexie everywhere and I believe she was getting into the mood but she told me that she couldn't have sex because of her period, I told her that I don't mind and it doesn't make a difference, all we need to do is lay a towel at the bottom to protect the sheets. She seemed really relieved and eased up immediately, and she opened her legs so I started fingering her while she resisted before. She then got up and got the towel.
When she came back she pushed me and started giving me a great blowjob, with just a white t-shirt on with no bra. Though I was thoroughly enjoying it I realized that I was over stimulated and that I wouldn't cum anytime soon. She continued for a bit and when she seemed tired I told her that if she wants she can stop because it might take some time. She lied next to me and out of nowhere she told me that she was too tired to continue.
I started panicking a bit because I was just too close to leave empty handed and tried to remember ways to persist so I started whispering in her ear that it was too bad and that I was about to lick her for 20 minutes straight and things like that, while at the same time rubbing her with my hand. To my great surprise it worked (I still can't believe it) and as I was starting kissing her body and going lower, she took off her panties, turned around doggystyle gave me some lube and told me to use it.
Her ass was something else, big but incredibly tight without the tiniest fat cell. I lubed her up, put on a condom and while I expected some difficulty, I slipped it inside as easily as getting some cold water from the fridge. I started thrusting and there were some coordination issues because she was moving against me as well, but I think it was fine. Not sure if she is supposed to be moving against you? Because I think I would have done a much better job if I could move freely.
After a while like that she got a bit higher in a proper doggystyle but this was very uncomfortable because for some reason her pussy was higher than my dick. She took action and pushed me back, started riding me in a reverse cowgirl. Amazing view, but my dick was practically bending, risking broken penis so I wasn't enjoying it. I told her to switch at the front, to which she complied with the slightest hint of not wanting to in her eyes. The front cowgirl was very fun for me but after some time she started looking aloof and then she dismounted and told me that she feels very strange and tired and just wants to sleep.
I wasn’t ready to stop so I decided to persist, I kissed her a bit and managed to finger her with my left hand which even though she obviously enjoyed, stopped and closed her legs. I persisted some more and I wasn't getting anywhere so I told her that I don’t want to persist and I will leave if she wants and she told me in a complaining way that I had already been quite persistent (at that comment I actually felt bad). I asked her if I should leave and she told me that I could stay if I wanted to. I had to catch a train in a few hours so i decided to leave.
When I got dressed, I was about to leave and she asked me for a goodbye kiss and she apologized and told me to not take it personally. I told her that it is no big deal and left her to sleep. The next day I was genuinely concerned about her and I found her to be a lovely girl so I texted her warmly and she replied warmly as well so I guess we parted our ways in peace.
So this is what happened. I still feel lucky because she was obviously sexually comfortable and experienced and I got away with many mistakes that I normally wouldn’t. I would love to hear your opinion on if her decision to stop was because I wasn’t satisfying her. I won’t beat myself up over it, this happened some time ago actually, I just want to learn and improve.
Also, since I was leaving I knew that I wouldn’t see her again and I didn’t contact her again. If we lived in the same city, do you think it would be worth a shot to try to make her a fuck buddy even though I know that she didn’t enjoy herself on our first time? Has anyone pulled that off?
My biggest concern now is how to know when to stop escalating. I don’t want to keep persisting when there is no point and come off as pushy. Going through other reports hasn’t helped and I gather that you can never know for sure.
Takeaway conclusions:
-Never take no as granted (best advice for women ever)
-Resistance may come in various forms and knowing when to stop is very difficult.
-As recommended by Chase (I think I have seen it written somewhere) period sex is not a big deal for women if we seem to be fine with it.
