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In this report I was defeated by LMR, but still made good progress...
I saw with the corner of my eye, an incredibly sexy girl in a black dress and I think she was looking at my direction, or I might have imagined it. Strangely enough after 10sec I just went up to her, without going through the usual process of reasoning and pushing myself, it kind of just happened. She was quite overdressed for that venue so I complimented her dress and asked her if she is going to an afterparty later. Let's call her Emilia for reference. One of my greatest approaches for me, she seemed so receptive from the beginning. She gave me her full body attention immediately, ignored her friends, great EC and was standing very close to me. Even her friends seemed to be in my favor, they didn't try to cockblock me they just all left and left us alone lol. I am very proud that I remembered to move her, I moved her a couple of meters to the side, she was compliant. My friend came over to tell me to not leave him behind because I had the only key for the room and I had to break circle, I introduced them out of politeness (never again) and he almost cockblocked me by attempting to make small talk with her but I started talking with her again and he got the message and left.
I had found earlier that she is 18 years old and a smoker (important for later). Also did pretty good job at not talking about me, she persistently asked me to talk about my job but I told her that I wanted to learn about her country instead (she was latina). Strange thing is that even though she was very receptive and all, she wasn't contributing to the conversation very much, apart from qualifying herself, she was asking me boring questions but it turned out fine because I had a lot of other good signs to look for. Anyway knowing that she is a smoker I told her to go out for a smoke, she was like "but you don't smoke" and I said sth like ''yeah but you do and it's quiet outside''. As we were going out she realized that she didn't take her coat so she asked me if she could go and get it, I told her ''ok go but be quick'' lol.
We went out and she didn't have any cigarettes and her look was like confused as to how she got herself out to smoke without any possible cigarettes showing up. I started spitting random shit out of my mouth trying to implement pull talk. Of course I knew that I had to leave for the hotel with my "friend' and she would go to a club with her friends so there wasn't a chance of pulling, I was hoping for a makeout. Anyway I tried to kiss her probably not very smoothly exactly at the time when the security guard came to tell us to sit somewhere else lol. I still had my arm around her from trying to kiss her so I just led her down the stairs, sat down somewhere and then kissed her straight away, semi man handle. The kiss felt uncomfortable I don't know why I guess I am still terribly inexperienced. She bit my lip which I took as a good sign and I broke contact first. We then engaged in a kind of ''argument'' about me not remembering her name, I called her out on not remembering mine either, then I kissed her a couple of times more. Got her to put her number in my phone and told her that I would text her for the weekend. I still haven't got rid of needy/beta behaviour like asking her to give me a good kiss before leaving. It feels uncomfortable even thinking about it...
Anyway I sent her the classic text to save my number, she replied quite late. Then the next day we exchanged a couple of messages, I asked her what she is up to for the night and she told me not much. I chose to view this as an invitation to offer her some fun for the night and I told her that we could hang out later after I finish with my friends and she responded that this would be great. Shame, by the time I finished with my friends she was doing something else and replied around 4AM. Didn't matter because I texted her the next morning suggesting a coffee, finally our free time overlapped around 21:00. Even though I had no idea about the good places in the city I chose a place and told her to meet me there setting up a leading frame.
I am ashamed to say that when we went to the bar I payed for her drink, she was just standing there not being able to decide where to drink, I just couldn't get myself to tell her or imply that she should pay. At least I picked a spot and ordered her to go sit there to reserve it. I will not focus on conversation, I will just say that I focused on deep diving, found out about her family, dreams and opinions in life. Threw in a couple of weak chase frames , touched her just a couple of times and definetely did not set up a sexy vibe, that shit is hard to do. I had decided beforehand to try pulling to her place, so I tried to seed the idea of showing me her artwork sometime. We were connecting quite well, we sat there about 1.30 hour then I suddenly told her "Let's go" and she was like "oh ok". I love that stuff, can't believe what I missed all those years asking women first instead of just leading them.
I just started walking towards her home but I am proud to say that I implemented pull talk correctly this time, I was stating random shit all the time, I could tell she was about to bring up the question of where we were going but she just didn't get a chance to. When we reached the front door she was so obviously waiting for something more like a kiss or sth, I could tell so easily that it was funny.
Then she just said OK opened the front door and started telling me all about her messy room which I laughed off. We went upstairs, forgot to mention to take our shoes off (duh) and I tried to prevent her from going for the laptop, some pictures on her wall gave me the excuse I needed, she started describing the moments in the pictures then I just pulled her in and kissed her. I could have handled it better afterwards because we were standing and I just sat on her bed and ordered her to take off her coat and sit down which might have set alarms off in her head. Anyway we started kissing again, the kissing improved significantly since the bad first time.
I started kissing her neck and I had to go through the nightmare of her hair always getting in the way, that shit was annoying. At first I escalated trying to go lower and kiss her boobs, it was no go and after that it just went downhill. I kissed her some more then tried to go for the pussy, she took my hand away. I switched positions with her, tried the same stuff, same results. At some point I was kissing her neck and I could hear her beginning to breath heavily and I thought this is the chance, but still I was getting resistance. I found funny that a couple of times she whispered things like what are we doing right now or can't believe it, was like she was thinking out loud. I then got full on top of her in a last attempt which even though made things quite passionate it didn't bear any fruit. She then told me suddenly that I have to go because she has class in the morning, I was a bit shocked, completely ignored her the first 2-3 times and kept kissing her but then she told me something like ''you really have to go''.
It wasn't one of those very firm no's so I could have persisted some more but there was no point, I couldn't bring her resistance down. I just said OK, I kissed her on the way out (maybe I shouldn't have, seemed like rewarding bad behavior) and told her that I would text her.
Breakthrough moment for me, first time NOT defusing the tension on the date and it got me as far as her room. I know that someone more experienced could have gotten around her resistance easily, I didn't make her horny enough to keep pushing things forward. Unfortunately even though I can recognize some of my mistakes, I can't say that I know what to do next time I face that resistance, I have to study again the relevant articles. Still it was plenty fun and I am improving my kissing (hopefully). I know that the chance of her going cold is quite high, but I will still try to set up a second date.
Keep pushing,
sakbishop
I saw with the corner of my eye, an incredibly sexy girl in a black dress and I think she was looking at my direction, or I might have imagined it. Strangely enough after 10sec I just went up to her, without going through the usual process of reasoning and pushing myself, it kind of just happened. She was quite overdressed for that venue so I complimented her dress and asked her if she is going to an afterparty later. Let's call her Emilia for reference. One of my greatest approaches for me, she seemed so receptive from the beginning. She gave me her full body attention immediately, ignored her friends, great EC and was standing very close to me. Even her friends seemed to be in my favor, they didn't try to cockblock me they just all left and left us alone lol. I am very proud that I remembered to move her, I moved her a couple of meters to the side, she was compliant. My friend came over to tell me to not leave him behind because I had the only key for the room and I had to break circle, I introduced them out of politeness (never again) and he almost cockblocked me by attempting to make small talk with her but I started talking with her again and he got the message and left.
I had found earlier that she is 18 years old and a smoker (important for later). Also did pretty good job at not talking about me, she persistently asked me to talk about my job but I told her that I wanted to learn about her country instead (she was latina). Strange thing is that even though she was very receptive and all, she wasn't contributing to the conversation very much, apart from qualifying herself, she was asking me boring questions but it turned out fine because I had a lot of other good signs to look for. Anyway knowing that she is a smoker I told her to go out for a smoke, she was like "but you don't smoke" and I said sth like ''yeah but you do and it's quiet outside''. As we were going out she realized that she didn't take her coat so she asked me if she could go and get it, I told her ''ok go but be quick'' lol.
We went out and she didn't have any cigarettes and her look was like confused as to how she got herself out to smoke without any possible cigarettes showing up. I started spitting random shit out of my mouth trying to implement pull talk. Of course I knew that I had to leave for the hotel with my "friend' and she would go to a club with her friends so there wasn't a chance of pulling, I was hoping for a makeout. Anyway I tried to kiss her probably not very smoothly exactly at the time when the security guard came to tell us to sit somewhere else lol. I still had my arm around her from trying to kiss her so I just led her down the stairs, sat down somewhere and then kissed her straight away, semi man handle. The kiss felt uncomfortable I don't know why I guess I am still terribly inexperienced. She bit my lip which I took as a good sign and I broke contact first. We then engaged in a kind of ''argument'' about me not remembering her name, I called her out on not remembering mine either, then I kissed her a couple of times more. Got her to put her number in my phone and told her that I would text her for the weekend. I still haven't got rid of needy/beta behaviour like asking her to give me a good kiss before leaving. It feels uncomfortable even thinking about it...
Anyway I sent her the classic text to save my number, she replied quite late. Then the next day we exchanged a couple of messages, I asked her what she is up to for the night and she told me not much. I chose to view this as an invitation to offer her some fun for the night and I told her that we could hang out later after I finish with my friends and she responded that this would be great. Shame, by the time I finished with my friends she was doing something else and replied around 4AM. Didn't matter because I texted her the next morning suggesting a coffee, finally our free time overlapped around 21:00. Even though I had no idea about the good places in the city I chose a place and told her to meet me there setting up a leading frame.
I am ashamed to say that when we went to the bar I payed for her drink, she was just standing there not being able to decide where to drink, I just couldn't get myself to tell her or imply that she should pay. At least I picked a spot and ordered her to go sit there to reserve it. I will not focus on conversation, I will just say that I focused on deep diving, found out about her family, dreams and opinions in life. Threw in a couple of weak chase frames , touched her just a couple of times and definetely did not set up a sexy vibe, that shit is hard to do. I had decided beforehand to try pulling to her place, so I tried to seed the idea of showing me her artwork sometime. We were connecting quite well, we sat there about 1.30 hour then I suddenly told her "Let's go" and she was like "oh ok". I love that stuff, can't believe what I missed all those years asking women first instead of just leading them.
I just started walking towards her home but I am proud to say that I implemented pull talk correctly this time, I was stating random shit all the time, I could tell she was about to bring up the question of where we were going but she just didn't get a chance to. When we reached the front door she was so obviously waiting for something more like a kiss or sth, I could tell so easily that it was funny.
Then she just said OK opened the front door and started telling me all about her messy room which I laughed off. We went upstairs, forgot to mention to take our shoes off (duh) and I tried to prevent her from going for the laptop, some pictures on her wall gave me the excuse I needed, she started describing the moments in the pictures then I just pulled her in and kissed her. I could have handled it better afterwards because we were standing and I just sat on her bed and ordered her to take off her coat and sit down which might have set alarms off in her head. Anyway we started kissing again, the kissing improved significantly since the bad first time.
I started kissing her neck and I had to go through the nightmare of her hair always getting in the way, that shit was annoying. At first I escalated trying to go lower and kiss her boobs, it was no go and after that it just went downhill. I kissed her some more then tried to go for the pussy, she took my hand away. I switched positions with her, tried the same stuff, same results. At some point I was kissing her neck and I could hear her beginning to breath heavily and I thought this is the chance, but still I was getting resistance. I found funny that a couple of times she whispered things like what are we doing right now or can't believe it, was like she was thinking out loud. I then got full on top of her in a last attempt which even though made things quite passionate it didn't bear any fruit. She then told me suddenly that I have to go because she has class in the morning, I was a bit shocked, completely ignored her the first 2-3 times and kept kissing her but then she told me something like ''you really have to go''.
It wasn't one of those very firm no's so I could have persisted some more but there was no point, I couldn't bring her resistance down. I just said OK, I kissed her on the way out (maybe I shouldn't have, seemed like rewarding bad behavior) and told her that I would text her.
Breakthrough moment for me, first time NOT defusing the tension on the date and it got me as far as her room. I know that someone more experienced could have gotten around her resistance easily, I didn't make her horny enough to keep pushing things forward. Unfortunately even though I can recognize some of my mistakes, I can't say that I know what to do next time I face that resistance, I have to study again the relevant articles. Still it was plenty fun and I am improving my kissing (hopefully). I know that the chance of her going cold is quite high, but I will still try to set up a second date.
Keep pushing,
sakbishop
