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A little background before the date itself:
I messaged this girl off Tinder, went back and fourth for a couple lines. This was on Friday night. One of the questions which came up was "what are you doing tonight?" Her response was "Not much, just going to Applebees then home". My response: "Ok, well I could also meet you downtown for drinks after you're done." She declined my offer but we agreed to meetup another time. We settled for Monday. But she also asked that we continue texting over the weekend (I had only sent her like, 3 messages prior to asking her out).
One thing to note is that, this girl was chasing me pretty hard via text. Literally every time I text her, she would reply back within a minute or less. I decided to use this to my advantage by testing out a the psychology of addiction. The basic concept is that people get addicted to things fastest when they sometimes get rewarded and sometimes don't. I applied this by replying to her at very random intervals (i.e. sometimes I'll reply in 30 seconds, sometimes in 5 mins, sometimes in 4 hours etc.) I've been on the other end of this before. I doubt girls do it on purpose, but it seems they'll naturally do this sometimes. When I was a beginner, I would always get very highly invested in girls who treat me this way. Reason being is that I'll always think "Oh no, maybe she won't reply! I guess I said something wrong!" and then when she does finally reply, I get an instant high just from the relief of knowing that I haven't lost her. I figured replying at random intervals would have the exact same effect on girls too. I would guess I was right based on how the date went.
Anyways...one of the things that came up when she texted me was:
Her: Can I ask you something?
Me: Go for it.
Her: What are your intentions on monday? Like do you actually want to get to know me or do you want to just get in my pants? Lol sorry if this is really blunt
[5 mins later]
Her: Sorry if this is really blunt, I just need to know what I'm getting myself into...
Me: I'll be honest with you, I cant promise an LTR or anything like that. Not saying I'm dismissing it. But I'm not 100% sure that's what I want out of life atm. Having said that, I definitely enjoy getting to know the girls I meet. Going out just to get laid would not be worth it for me. So basically, rn, my only agenda is to go out and grab a drink with you. I can't say anything about what will or won't happen after that.
Do I give you the imrpession that I'm only trying to get in your pants?
Her: Haha I appreaciate the honesty. And no, you don't I'm not the kind of girl to just have sex the first time we meet lol
Other than that, we texted about nothing in particular. It was mostly small talk. The importance is the amount of investment I got from her via the strategy outlined above.
Ok, so now its Monday, I met up with her. I was actually feeling pretty shitty that day, but still given that it's a Tinder date, I have enough experiance to pull off at least some good things on autopilot. Looks like it was working. I just did my regular bantering+deep diving+ chase framing. Within the first 23 mins of the date, I was already kissing her.
After a while, she suggested we go for a walk. I complied. We walked around trying to look for an ice cream place she knows, but we never found it. And I was actually getting REALLY cold. So after we couldn't find it:
Her: Wanna just go back to your car instead?
Me: Sure
On the way back to my car, we makeout once (probably a mistake, but like I said, I wasn't too into this girl in the first place, so idc). Once we got to my car:
Me: Ok, lets go (I unlock the car)
Her: Ok
[We get in the car]
Her: Where are we going?
Me: My place.
Her: Will you drive me back to my car?
Me: Yeah, sure.
So far, so good. This was at about the 45 min mark of the date. We arrive at my place. Unfortuntely, I didn't have time to text my roommate to gtfo. So he and his GF were both there. I handled this part pretty badly, but given how hard she was chasing me, it looks like it didn't matter:
Me: This is my roommate [Name] And guys, this is Alex (name of the girl)
Them: Hi
Me: What are you guys up to?
Them: Watching Netflix.
Me: Ok, cool.
Me: [To Alex] Let's go to my room.
Her: Ok.
[In my room]
We instantly start making out again. I start doing escalation ladders. Start at the neck/earlobes. This time, I took my time and stayed there for a lot longer than normal. Then I moved onto the breasts (got her bra off with no resistance). I also took my shirt off at this point. After a while, I move to take off her pants. No go.
Her: I'm not that easy!
I ignored this comment and started the escalation ladder over again. This time, I took even longer. I also proceeded to dry hump her. This seemed to turn her on. After a while, she started stroking my hard dick through my jeans. When she stopped, I took off my pants as I sucked on her neck ( multitasking like this is harder than you would think). I then put her hand inside my underwear. She grabbed my dick and started jerking me off. She does this for a while, so I take off my underwear too.
So at this point, she has her pants still on, but her bra is off. I'm completely naked. So I sit on her breasts. This way, my hard cock is literally right next to her mouth. She takes it and starts sucking it. This goes on for a couple minutes, but she doesn't make me cum (I've never came from anything except intercourse and my own hand before). For the next half hour or so, we continue making out. The only additional details are:
1. At one point, I started fingering her through her pants. This seemed to turn her on more than anything else.
2. I tried to remove her pants several more times, but I found no success.
3. Also, our making out involved a lot of hair pulling, neck biting, back clawing etc. I also tried to introduce slapping. I lightly slapped her on the cheek. But she said she's not into that.
Finally, towards the end of that half hour, I persisted trying to take off her pants. This time, she actually says something:
Her: You wouldn't like me anymore if I let you do that.
Me: Why not?
Her: You just wouldn't want to do anything.
Me: Why's that?
Her: It's that time of month for my ehem...lady parts.
Me: Oh, I don't mind. That's nbd to me.
Her: Really? My ex-bf hated it.
Me: That's weird. I see no problem with period sex.
Her: Oh, ok. Alright, then lemme go to the bathroom to take my tampon off.
[She gets dressed, goes to the bathroom, comes back in 5 mins]
When she came back, I escalated to sex with no resistance. She was SUPER tight. Like, my dick literally hurt a LOT when I put it in.
Her: Sorry, I haven't had sex for 5 months.
Me: It's ok.
After about 5 mins of struggling, I finally get it in pretty smoothly. Unfortunately, when this did happen, came a little bit too fast (lasted prob around 5 mins :/ ). So I finished her off by fingering her. She definitely orgasmed multiple times from this. Interestingly enough, there was no period blood when I actually had intercourse. But when I fingered her, a little bit did come out (this is strange to me because my dick is considerably larger and longer than any of my fingers).
The rest of the night was pretty smooth sailing. We fucked a few more times, then we cuddled/hung out for a while. Unfortunately, I feel like I might end up hurting her. I should have been more firm with my BF disqualifier over text. Because as we were cuddling, she started asking me about when the last time I had a GF was, and a lot of her body language was very "relationshippy" (i.e. holding my hand with interlaced fingers, sitting there staring into my eyes etc.).
Frankly, I felt so guilty about this that I couldn't even hold eye contact with her for most the night after I fucked her. Like, I feel like I was dishonest/am leading her on. And tbh, I'm not really sure what to do from here. If I choose not to see her again, she would feel cheap and like she was some sort of sex object to me. But if I continue to see her, I feel like she might start to believe that I would be open to a relationship with her (which I'm not). Thoughts on this?
Additionally, I'm not really sure why this girl was so into me in the first place. Like, I was feeling super tired/ low energy tonight. I've lost a LOT of girls with a LOT better game than what I did tonight. I guess maybe the texting thing had an even more profound effect than I would have imagined? Or perhaps my fundamentals have gotten better without me noticing.
I messaged this girl off Tinder, went back and fourth for a couple lines. This was on Friday night. One of the questions which came up was "what are you doing tonight?" Her response was "Not much, just going to Applebees then home". My response: "Ok, well I could also meet you downtown for drinks after you're done." She declined my offer but we agreed to meetup another time. We settled for Monday. But she also asked that we continue texting over the weekend (I had only sent her like, 3 messages prior to asking her out).
One thing to note is that, this girl was chasing me pretty hard via text. Literally every time I text her, she would reply back within a minute or less. I decided to use this to my advantage by testing out a the psychology of addiction. The basic concept is that people get addicted to things fastest when they sometimes get rewarded and sometimes don't. I applied this by replying to her at very random intervals (i.e. sometimes I'll reply in 30 seconds, sometimes in 5 mins, sometimes in 4 hours etc.) I've been on the other end of this before. I doubt girls do it on purpose, but it seems they'll naturally do this sometimes. When I was a beginner, I would always get very highly invested in girls who treat me this way. Reason being is that I'll always think "Oh no, maybe she won't reply! I guess I said something wrong!" and then when she does finally reply, I get an instant high just from the relief of knowing that I haven't lost her. I figured replying at random intervals would have the exact same effect on girls too. I would guess I was right based on how the date went.
Anyways...one of the things that came up when she texted me was:
Her: Can I ask you something?
Me: Go for it.
Her: What are your intentions on monday? Like do you actually want to get to know me or do you want to just get in my pants? Lol sorry if this is really blunt
[5 mins later]
Her: Sorry if this is really blunt, I just need to know what I'm getting myself into...
Me: I'll be honest with you, I cant promise an LTR or anything like that. Not saying I'm dismissing it. But I'm not 100% sure that's what I want out of life atm. Having said that, I definitely enjoy getting to know the girls I meet. Going out just to get laid would not be worth it for me. So basically, rn, my only agenda is to go out and grab a drink with you. I can't say anything about what will or won't happen after that.
Do I give you the imrpession that I'm only trying to get in your pants?Her: Haha I appreaciate the honesty.
And no, you don't I'm not the kind of girl to just have sex the first time we meet lolOther than that, we texted about nothing in particular. It was mostly small talk. The importance is the amount of investment I got from her via the strategy outlined above.
Ok, so now its Monday, I met up with her. I was actually feeling pretty shitty that day, but still given that it's a Tinder date, I have enough experiance to pull off at least some good things on autopilot. Looks like it was working. I just did my regular bantering+deep diving+ chase framing. Within the first 23 mins of the date, I was already kissing her.
After a while, she suggested we go for a walk. I complied. We walked around trying to look for an ice cream place she knows, but we never found it. And I was actually getting REALLY cold. So after we couldn't find it:
Her: Wanna just go back to your car instead?
Me: Sure
On the way back to my car, we makeout once (probably a mistake, but like I said, I wasn't too into this girl in the first place, so idc). Once we got to my car:
Me: Ok, lets go (I unlock the car)
Her: Ok
[We get in the car]
Her: Where are we going?
Me: My place.
Her: Will you drive me back to my car?
Me: Yeah, sure.
So far, so good. This was at about the 45 min mark of the date. We arrive at my place. Unfortuntely, I didn't have time to text my roommate to gtfo. So he and his GF were both there. I handled this part pretty badly, but given how hard she was chasing me, it looks like it didn't matter:
Me: This is my roommate [Name] And guys, this is Alex (name of the girl)
Them: Hi
Me: What are you guys up to?
Them: Watching Netflix.
Me: Ok, cool.
Me: [To Alex] Let's go to my room.
Her: Ok.
[In my room]
We instantly start making out again. I start doing escalation ladders. Start at the neck/earlobes. This time, I took my time and stayed there for a lot longer than normal. Then I moved onto the breasts (got her bra off with no resistance). I also took my shirt off at this point. After a while, I move to take off her pants. No go.
Her: I'm not that easy!
I ignored this comment and started the escalation ladder over again. This time, I took even longer. I also proceeded to dry hump her. This seemed to turn her on. After a while, she started stroking my hard dick through my jeans. When she stopped, I took off my pants as I sucked on her neck ( multitasking like this is harder than you would think). I then put her hand inside my underwear. She grabbed my dick and started jerking me off. She does this for a while, so I take off my underwear too.
So at this point, she has her pants still on, but her bra is off. I'm completely naked. So I sit on her breasts. This way, my hard cock is literally right next to her mouth. She takes it and starts sucking it. This goes on for a couple minutes, but she doesn't make me cum (I've never came from anything except intercourse and my own hand before). For the next half hour or so, we continue making out. The only additional details are:
1. At one point, I started fingering her through her pants. This seemed to turn her on more than anything else.
2. I tried to remove her pants several more times, but I found no success.
3. Also, our making out involved a lot of hair pulling, neck biting, back clawing etc. I also tried to introduce slapping. I lightly slapped her on the cheek. But she said she's not into that.
Finally, towards the end of that half hour, I persisted trying to take off her pants. This time, she actually says something:
Her: You wouldn't like me anymore if I let you do that.
Me: Why not?
Her: You just wouldn't want to do anything.
Me: Why's that?
Her: It's that time of month for my ehem...lady parts.
Me: Oh, I don't mind. That's nbd to me.
Her: Really? My ex-bf hated it.
Me: That's weird. I see no problem with period sex.
Her: Oh, ok. Alright, then lemme go to the bathroom to take my tampon off.
[She gets dressed, goes to the bathroom, comes back in 5 mins]
When she came back, I escalated to sex with no resistance. She was SUPER tight. Like, my dick literally hurt a LOT when I put it in.
Her: Sorry, I haven't had sex for 5 months.
Me: It's ok.
After about 5 mins of struggling, I finally get it in pretty smoothly. Unfortunately, when this did happen, came a little bit too fast (lasted prob around 5 mins :/ ). So I finished her off by fingering her. She definitely orgasmed multiple times from this. Interestingly enough, there was no period blood when I actually had intercourse. But when I fingered her, a little bit did come out (this is strange to me because my dick is considerably larger and longer than any of my fingers).
The rest of the night was pretty smooth sailing. We fucked a few more times, then we cuddled/hung out for a while. Unfortunately, I feel like I might end up hurting her. I should have been more firm with my BF disqualifier over text. Because as we were cuddling, she started asking me about when the last time I had a GF was, and a lot of her body language was very "relationshippy" (i.e. holding my hand with interlaced fingers, sitting there staring into my eyes etc.).
Frankly, I felt so guilty about this that I couldn't even hold eye contact with her for most the night after I fucked her. Like, I feel like I was dishonest/am leading her on. And tbh, I'm not really sure what to do from here. If I choose not to see her again, she would feel cheap and like she was some sort of sex object to me. But if I continue to see her, I feel like she might start to believe that I would be open to a relationship with her (which I'm not). Thoughts on this?
Additionally, I'm not really sure why this girl was so into me in the first place. Like, I was feeling super tired/ low energy tonight. I've lost a LOT of girls with a LOT better game than what I did tonight. I guess maybe the texting thing had an even more profound effect than I would have imagined? Or perhaps my fundamentals have gotten better without me noticing.
