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moom

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You were all right- this girl had a million red flags and I still fell right into it. Tonight got weird, and then I found out shes still wayy into her ex. It hurts man. It really does.

The romantic side of me still wanted to believe in the deep emotions, the fairy tale bullshit, but it doesnt work that way. I fell in love, and she was never there.

Fuck me man, what now
 

topcat

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You were all right- this girl had a million red flags and I still fell right into it. Tonight got weird, and then I found out shes still wayy into her ex. It hurts man. It really does.

The romantic side of me still wanted to believe in the deep emotions, the fairy tale bullshit, but it doesnt work that way. I fell in love, and she was never there.

Fuck me man, what now
Meh. Hoes gon’ hoe. You’ve learnt a valuable lesson.

At least now when you see a ‘hot stove’ you’ll think twice about putting your hand on it…

Dust yourself off and keep truckin’.
 

DarkKnight

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Hmm. Next time listen to your intuition, funny thing is when you get more experiences these things become much more minor. You simply stop caring and view it as a blip on a big horizon instead of this huge event. If you resolve these things calmly and without caring too much (the girl will assume you care) you also throw the girl a curve ball and she will get surprised. Then again, why bother unless it is social circle where you have to maintain your frame.

Meet more girls.
 

Alpha13SC

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TBH I don't fully understand how you actually got played. You knew about her ex, that she s still talking with him, she investing in you and also KNEW that SHE SHOULD BRING THE RELATIONSHIP. At least in this situation.

To me, it's more like you re not ready to take fully responsability for your actions. It's not like she didn't told you already there could be another man in the picture, both verbally OR NOT VERBALLY.

I would actually look more into that "fairy tale bullshit" that you're up to. Did you actually want that, or it from a place of ego or the fact that you didn't fully had her heart?

In any case, it's just a girl, even if your brain could tell you otherwise in this moment. Accept the fact, recognize that with every experience you become better and use this accordingly. Remember, in those moments, you're full of hormones and emotions and you're not thinking clear. That's why it's good posting here, where guys can give you honest perspective and solutions if you have a situation.

Alpha13SC
 

TomInHo

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Honestly don't think you got played.

You knew the situation beforehand that she had an Ex that she still had feelings for.

But you shouldn't care at all. You're not committed and you can still have romantic feelings for a woman that is seeing her ex. You just need to keep your expectations in check.

This woman has shown you who she is, and if you want to continue the relationship you have accept that you will probably never be her only option. Try to put your ego aside and enjoy the time you have together for what it is.... A man and woman relating one day at a time
 

moom

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Wanted to give everyone an update / backstory of what went down for those curious:

Friday Feb 11th: I had invited my girl T and her friend K to come out with me to my best friend B’s party. We went out to the apartment and then to a club after and had a great time. I was trying to hook up K with my other best friend C and things were going well. We all went back to mine pretty drunk and sat around the fire pit. K pulled out a joint and we all started smoking and thats when the vibe got weird and quiet. K hunched over, was giving T a look. Next thing I know, T takes K to the bathroom and shes hunched over the toilet trying to throw up. T comes out and says she has to take her home and that she has to go back with her. I’m a little pissed and say why doesn’t K just crash on the couch since they live 30 minutes away. T says she “needs her own space.” I say ok, and calls an Uber. While we wait for an Uber, I tell C to go home. I also hold K’s hair for a little bit over the toilet and make her laugh a little. Then switch back to T going in the bathroom holding her hair up while I’m in my room. Now, T’s phone is in my room and the Uber has been called on there. I’m looking at where the Uber is and all of a sudden, I see a text come in from her ex saying something flirty. My curiosity gets the best of me and I look at her texts. Turns out they had been meeting up for lunch all throughout us seeing each other. I’m fuming at this point but not saying a word. A little later, the girls are sitting on the couch in the living room and I’m sitting on the side chair, not saying a word. K tells me to close the front door (it was open) and I snap at her. She shuts up and closes it herself. No one says a word. When the Uber gets here, they get in and leave. At this point, I’m pretty much thinking I’ll ghost her and get some sleep.

Saturday, Feb 12th- i wake up around 8, and throwing her shit out. I feel hollow, kinda like a real break up. I also message you that message around 9 am. At 10 AM, I hear a knock on the door and its T. She had left her truck here the night before so obviously she had to come pick it up. We talk for a few seconds and she comes in, and we start having sex. Right on the couch, all I’m thinking at this point is how I want to hate fuck her. She comes into my room and I fuck her in the ass for the first time. After 2 rounds, I lay there and tell her I had no plans of talking to her again and that I was pissed. She says “I know, I could just feel the anger radiating from you. I was going be angry as fuck if you ghosted me, i was going to knock your door down.” At this point, she thinks I was angry because they both got too fucked up, and she has no idea that I saw the texts. She spends this entire day being super nice to me. She leaves around 1 pm to go back home for a little and give K her keys. Then comes back around 4 with a whole thing of sushi that we both eat together. We fuck a few more times and then I have to go to B’s second day event which was a fancy dinner. She stays at mine while I go and when I come back, my entire rooms been cleaned, organised, all the dishes have been done, and she’s super sweet. I think she was just trying to make up the night before to me, thinking that I was angry about them being too drunk. She stays the night and leaves in the morning straight to work. She plans to come back on Valentines day because we had made plans for it a week before.

Sunday, Feb 13th- We don’t text or anything, normally how it goes throughout the week. We don’t text really unless its to make plans or her initiating conversation about something random to which after I let the conversation usually die out.

Monday, Feb 14th- This day is when I plan on confronting her. She comes over with cake, and my favorite flowers around 7pm. We get into it and have sex for like the next hour. I’m a bit more sadistic than usual and I think flashes of anger shine through at points. I can’t get my head into it fully but we both have an orgasm or two. After laying there, she looks at me and says “the spark in my eye” is gone. This is when I decide to confront her. I make NO mention of me seeing her texts. I’m also very calm and collected during this entire conversation. I start off mentioning how K and her went to college together and thats right around when her and that ex broke up. Then we talk about how hes still in her life. How he’s in her social circle. I ask her if they meet up still, she tells me they get lunch once in a while including while shes been seeing me. I ask her if shes still in love with him and she says no. She tells me she just feels a deep seated hatred for him at this point. Obviously this is still bad as she feels strong emotions and not indifference. I start getting up and tell her I have heard everything I needed to hear and that it was a good three months, and she starts tearing up. She tells me how she thinks about me all day, and how shes “mentally, physically, and emotionally” completely faithful to me. Mind you, we’ve never spoken about commitment before. I tell her some variation of this: “I’m very particular on who I get emotionally involved with. I don’t go into things half assed and if thats how youre going into this, we should stop seeing each other. We can cut it off now, and theres no bitterness at all. Ive had an awesome three months with you. Id rather cut it off now instead of months down road where we both get hurt even more. If you’re still in love with him, its better you go run after him. “ She tells me how she’s all in, and that she’ll stop talking to him. She tells me how its tough because he’s in their main social circle, but shes trying to get away from that whole social circle (her friends from high school). I tell her about my ex as well and how she’s wanting to come fly down to see me. But that if I’m going to be all in on this, I’m going to tell her no. I end the conversation with “I’m cautious. I’ll take it as a massive sign of disrespect if you continue to meet up with your ex after telling me this, and that’ll be it. Obviously I can’t control you, you’re your own person. Nor do I have the bandwith or energy to check up constantly and see if you’re still talking to him. So lets just see what happens.” And then we changed subjects and things got happy again. We went out to eat, sat by the fire, drank a bit, fucked again and went to bed. She left for work the next morning from my place.


That was the last time I saw her, 2 days ago. We havent spoken since. Now do I trust her words? Not really. Do I think she’ll continue talking with and seeing her ex? Yeah, probably. I’ve also told my ex to come fly down, and I’m going to start going out to game again. I got too emotionally attached to this girl too quick and then got a rude awakening.
 

TomInHo

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Now, T’s phone is in my room and the Uber has been called on there. I’m looking at where the Uber is and all of a sudden, I see a text come in from her ex saying something flirty. My curiosity gets the best of me and I look at her texts. Turns out they had been meeting up for lunch all throughout us seeing each other. I’m fuming at this point but not saying a word. A little later, the girls are sitting on the couch in the living room and I’m sitting on the side chair, not saying a word. K tells me to close the front door (it was open) and I snap at her. She shuts up and closes it herself. No one says a word. When the Uber gets here, they get in and leave. At this point, I’m pretty much thinking I’ll ghost her and get some sleep.
You honestly should not be pissed. Remember you're not committed to this girls and she has every right to entertain other guys. Because frankly, you should be entertaining other girls too

Got to keep your jealousy in check

Saturday, Feb 12th- i wake up around 8, and throwing her shit out. I feel hollow, kinda like a real break up. I also message you that message around 9 am. At 10 AM, I hear a knock on the door and its T. She had left her truck here the night before so obviously she had to come pick it up. We talk for a few seconds and she comes in, and we start having sex. Right on the couch, all I’m thinking at this point is how I want to hate fuck her. She comes into my room and I fuck her in the ass for the first time. After 2 rounds, I lay there and tell her I had no plans of talking to her again and that I was pissed. She says “I know, I could just feel the anger radiating from you. I was going be angry as fuck if you ghosted me, i was going to knock your door down.” At this point, she thinks I was angry because they both got too fucked up, and she has no idea that I saw the texts. She spends this entire day being super nice to me. She leaves around 1 pm to go back home for a little and give K her keys. Then comes back around 4 with a whole thing of sushi that we both eat together. We fuck a few more times and then I have to go to B’s second day event which was a fancy dinner. She stays at mine while I go and when I come back, my entire rooms been cleaned, organised, all the dishes have been done, and she’s super sweet. I think she was just trying to make up the night before to me, thinking that I was angry about them being too drunk. She stays the night and leaves in the morning straight to work. She plans to come back on Valentines day because we had made plans for it a week before.

Good news... she still investing in you, which means likes you

Monday, Feb 14th- This day is when I plan on confronting her. She comes over with cake, and my favorite flowers around 7pm. We get into it and have sex for like the next hour. I’m a bit more sadistic than usual and I think flashes of anger shine through at points. I can’t get my head into it fully but we both have an orgasm or two. After laying there, she looks at me and says “the spark in my eye” is gone. This is when I decide to confront her. I make NO mention of me seeing her texts. I’m also very calm and collected during this entire conversation. I start off mentioning how K and her went to college together and thats right around when her and that ex broke up. Then we talk about how hes still in her life. How he’s in her social circle. I ask her if they meet up still, she tells me they get lunch once in a while including while shes been seeing me. I ask her if shes still in love with him and she says no. She tells me she just feels a deep seated hatred for him at this point. Obviously this is still bad as she feels strong emotions and not indifference.

She's obviously bending the truth a little bit. She has her Ex in the back pocket so she can have access to him in case of emergency. Women are masters at keeping their options open.... You can learn a lot from them.

I start getting up and tell her I have heard everything I needed to hear and that it was a good three months, and she starts tearing up. She tells me how she thinks about me all day, and how shes “mentally, physically, and emotionally” completely faithful to me. Mind you, we’ve never spoken about commitment before. I tell her some variation of this: “I’m very particular on who I get emotionally involved with. I don’t go into things half assed and if thats how you're going into this, we should stop seeing each other.

She's selling you purity. When girls like you a lot they tend to do this, especially if they feel like being honest will ruin their chances of what they want to get from you.

If you want her to be more honest, you need Frame yourself as a guy that doesn't care about what she does outside of you. Be laidback and nonjudgemental and the truth will come out

I tell her some variation of this: “I’m very particular on who I get emotionally involved with. I don’t go into things half assed and if thats how youre going into this, we should stop seeing each other. We can cut it off now, and theres no bitterness at all. Ive had an awesome three months with you. Id rather cut it off now instead of months down road where we both get hurt even more. If you’re still in love with him, its better you go run after him. “ She tells me how she’s all in, and that she’ll stop talking to him. She tells me how its tough because he’s in their main social circle, but shes trying to get away from that whole social circle (her friends from high school).

Not good... You reinforced your judge-mental frame, now she's going to work even harder to keep more secrets from you because you can't handle the truth

I tell her about my ex as well and how she’s wanting to come fly down to see me. But that if I’m going to be all in on this, I’m going to tell her no. I end the conversation with “I’m cautious. I’ll take it as a massive sign of disrespect if you continue to meet up with your ex after telling me this, and that’ll be it. Obviously I can’t control you, you’re your own person. Nor do I have the bandwith or energy to check up constantly and see if you’re still talking to him. So lets just see what happens.” And then we changed subjects and things got happy again. We went out to eat, sat by the fire, drank a bit, fucked again and went to bed. She left for work the next morning from my place.


That was the last time I saw her, 2 days ago. We havent spoken since. Now do I trust her words? Not really. Do I think she’ll continue talking with and seeing her ex? Yeah, probably. I’ve also told my ex to come fly down, and I’m going to start going out to game again. I got too emotionally attached to this girl too quick and then got a rude awakening.

Uh oh... she can probably sense that the Ex is a real threat to you. This is actually giving her more relationship power because now she can use him to triangulate you and take your emotions for a ride..

From the looks of things the power of the relationship is starting to swing in her favor.

But you can reel things back in by trying to get a hold of your jealousy.

This may sound odd but try this technique...

Imagine her going to lunch with her ex and fucking the shit out him. Imagine her saying he's the best lover she's ever had. Imagine her doing things with him you wouldn't believe...

Keep playing these thoughts in your head.... But also imagine the good things you have with her so far. If you do this mental exercise enough, your jealousy will subside and your suffering will lessen.

You have to accept the situation for what is is and enjoy this woman for how she is showing up. Kill the idealism, because your baggage is bringing unnecessary drama into the relationship and murdering her attraction for you
 

Alpha13SC

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Firstly, thanks for keeping us updated. It actually got me intrigued tbh.

Secondly:
I’m looking at where the Uber is and all of a sudden, I see a text come in from her ex saying something flirty. My curiosity gets the best of me and I look at her texts. Turns out they had been meeting up for lunch all throughout us seeing each other. I’m fuming at this point but not saying a word. A little later, the girls are sitting on the couch in the living room and I’m sitting on the side chair, not saying a word. K tells me to close the front door (it was open) and I snap at her. She shuts up and closes it herself. No one says a word. When the Uber gets here, they get in and leave. At this point, I’m pretty much thinking I’ll ghost her and get some sleep.

C'mon man, you're better than that. What did you expect? To text him how loyal is to you? This is not a relationship. At least not now. And why would you actually desire that? It's not your job to desire the relationship. It's hers. If you're doing it, you going past a commitment point, which IMH it's best to make it as late as possible, of course, calibrated to the situation.

Going through a chick phone is may have a deeply effect on you. I ve been there, and actually don't want to do it again. You think that you ll get informations, and know more than now and can bring you in a position of power and get her accountable for her actions, but the reality is far from this. What is actually doing is that it's shifting power from you to her, making you investing too much, and it can appear neediness.

I actually disabled all notifications which shows me when somebody was active, or if it read my message or not. I don't want to see that "seen" notification, nor somebody else to see mine. It can fuck up too much your mind. Going through somebody s messages it's doing the same thing.

You became too emotional. Do some things to get out of your head. I know it's hard, but this is darkening your judgment. This behaviour is just making her lying to you and somehow becoming shallow because she'll be afraid of your reaction, and not that good type of afraid.

From what I ve seen, you've made some mistakes, but you're still in power. Keep it that way. Just do your job with her. If you want to ghost her, then do it without so much drama, because she ll not believe you next time.

You're still the dick in her life. Keep it that way.

That was the last time I saw her, 2 days ago. We havent spoken since. Now do I trust her words? Not really. Do I think she’ll continue talking with and seeing her ex? Yeah, probably. I’ve also told my ex to come fly down, and I’m going to start going out to game again. I got too emotionally attached to this girl too quick and then got a rude awakening.

Sounds like a plan. A good plan to go gaming again.
This may sound odd but try this technique...

Imagine her going to lunch with her ex and fucking the shit out him. Imagine her saying he's the best lover she's ever had. Imagine her doing things with him you wouldn't believe...

Keep playing these thoughts in your head.... But also imagine the good things you have with her so far. If you do this mental exercise enough, your jealousy will subside and your suffering will lessen.

You have to accept the situation for what is is and enjoy this woman for how she is showing up. Kill the idealism, because your baggage is bringing unnecessary drama into the relationship and murdering her attraction for you

I m wondering, did you actually tried this? Because I understand what you're trying to accomplish, but in a weird way.
 

Will_V

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Depends on what you want from her. If you want commitment, you approached in somewhat the right way. If you want a lover, different story.

What's clear is that if you ever want this girl to stay focused on you you'll have to have an iron grip on her emotions, and stimulate her at least as much as the last guy did, in both positive and negative emotions. If you don't want to do that or aren't capable of doing it consistently, sooner or later you'll lose control of the relationship.

Notice how quickly she noticed your anger, and how much it aroused her to the point of threatening to break down your door? That's what this girl is trained to respond to.

Either be a darker storm and a brighter sun, or choose more wisely.
 

moom

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I love you guys, don’t know what I would do without yalls support, insight, and advice. Thank you all for the answers (and I’ll gladly welcome any others as well)- I’m going to reflect on these and figure out my next move.
 
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