FR "I have a Virgin Pussy"

[Bboy100]

I'm writing this post for two reasons:
1. Because this really was quite an entertaining date
2. To show newer guys just how hard girls will chase and even "game" a guy to sleep with them if they find him attractive enough.

On Tinder:
I matched with this girl who we'll call Hannah. She was super cute. Had kind of a chubby face, but she had a pic with her full body in it and it looked pretty good. So I was pretty convinced she wasn't going to be fat. To be honest, the context of the date kind of seemed like it was just going to be a hookup. Especially given how she invited me out. Here's how it went:

Me: I'm actually really bad at this Tinder thing. Want to just grab coffee sometime?
Her: Would you be down to hang out tonight or grab breakfast tomorrow instead? <---I think she meant "and grab breakfast tomorrow"
Me: Yeah, I'm down to hang tonight.
Her: Okay cool text me!! [Her number}

[Over text]:
Me: Hey, its bboy! I just gotta get rdy and shower and I'll be omw?
Her: Okay, want my address? <---This is when I thought this was going to just be a hook up for sure.
Me: yeah
Her: [Her address]
Me: Ok, I'll let you know when I'm omw
Her: Okay
[30 mins later]
Her: Yo are you on your way yet?
Me: Yeah, I'm leaving in 5
Her: Okay
[7 mins later]
Her: Actually, do you want to do breakfast tomorrow I'm super tired
ME: Maybe, but I might have to meet a buddy of mine. So I'm not 100% sure
Could you still do tonight? Cause I'm already on the freeway haha

Neither of those two things were true. I don't have anyone to meet and I was still at the store buying condoms. The reason I sent this text is because if I just said "no, lets meet up tonight", that might've been too assholish and sent her into auto-reject. If I had agreed to breakfast in the morning, then it would have made it into an actual date which would make pulling her much more difficult.

Her: I mean yeah how long till you get here??
Me: Like, 30 mins
Her: I have to be home by 12:30 but yeah sure!!<--Now I wasn't exactly sure what was going on. I thought I was going to her house. But it looks like she just wants me to pick her up. I decided to roll with it cause it doesn't really matter. at 11:00, there's no where I could go with an 18 year old in a small town which won't be secluded.
Me: Ok, cool. See you soon!

The Date: I arrive. I'm utterly disappointed. The girl looked almost nothing like her pictures. She had put on at least 30 pounds. Classic catfish. Still, I drove 40 minutes to get to her. So I decided I might as well hang out with her for a while cause it might be fun. But there was definitely no way I was gonna fuck this girl. We drive to a nearby lake.

Literally almost the first thing she told me was that she had recently broken up with her boyfriend who cheated on her with her best friend. Her response was to drag her friend off him by the hair and throw a vase at her now ex-boyfriend. Already I knew that even if she was hot, getting involved with her could lead to trouble. Then she went on to tell me stories about how she went to her HS prom (she just graduated) with a BLOW UP DOLL. Cause she couldn't find a date since everyone at her school heard about the incident with her ex BF.

She went on to tell me about a lot of other similar stories. All the while slowly but surely inching closer to me. Her reason being that "her butt hurts when she stands still (on the bench we're on)".

She also told me stories about how she and her friends have gone skinny dipping in this lake a bunch of times and that she would be down to do it right now if she wasn't so cold.

We had some more reletively platonic but still exciting conversation. At one point, I was teasing her about how she's probably not ready for the real world (cause she just graduated HS). Her response was:
Her: Well, I'm kind of grown up but kind of not. For example, ride a dick really well but I can't write a check
Me: Oh wow, that's unfortunate. I guess maybe you can use your dick riding skills to get someone to write a check for you
Her: She laughs and keeps going. Yeah, my friend and I like to play this game where we say what we can and can't do. What was another one...Oh yeah, I know how to give a blowjob, but I can't [Do some other mundane task. I forgot what it was]

As she was doing this, she started leaning into me, and getting ever closer. After a few more exchanges like this, she casually changed topics to something more platonic and changed her body positioning so it was no longer facing me (fractionation). Seriously...I swear this girl has read Alek's articles on sex talk. She has game.

We talked about some other platonic stuff. She also tried to raise her status by casually mentioning that she was super popular/cheer captain at her high school. Then she went back into sexual prizing. We were talking about her sexual experiences (forgot how she got into it). Then she said:
Her: Only one guy has ever made me cum
Me: Why's that?
Her: My pussy is super tight, so no guy can last very long. My doctor said I have virgin pussy<---This is probably a lie. I don't think any doctor would ever say "virgin pussy"
Her: So every time I have sex, it pretty much feels like I'm a virgin to the guy.
Me: So? Why does that mean you can't cum? Can't the guy just use his fingers? <---my response would have been much different if I actually wanted to sleep with her. But I'm trying to keep this as platonic as possible (given the conversation topic ahaha)
Her: Yeah...I dunno why guys don't do that. Most of them just cum then roll over and ask me if I came. And the thing is, I'm a squirter. So if I came...trust me, he would know

Soon after, she gets even closer to me. This time, her leg is touching mine. To be honest, I almost considered having sex with her to applaud how good her game is. But despite her sex talk (which admittedly did slightly turn me on), I still wouldn't have enjoyed fucking her cause she looked like a troll and she's batshit crazy.

Eventually, she was just staring into my eyes, giving me a super seductive look (other than the fact that she's not hot, she has some seriously tight fundamentals. I could tell she's experienced). Only inches away from my face. Needless to say, this is an escalation window. Clear as day. I almost considered kissing her just to not look fucking retarded.

After a short pause, we go back to talking about something more platonic. Forgot what. Eventually, we got back to talking about her sex life. It went something like this:
Me: So what do you do to get a guy to have sex with you?
Her: Well...usually I'll talk about my boobs.
Her: If he really doesn't get it, I'll even shake them around.

As she says this, she starts playing with her own boobs.
Then she says:
Her: what should we do now? (with a bedroom eyes and a seductive look on her face)
Me: I dunno. <--At this point, I kinda felt uncomfortable for not escalating on her. It's kind of an awkward feeling to miss an escalation window this big. Cause this as well have just been her asking me to fuck her. LOL I still didn't do it though.

Finally, towards the end of the date, she says
Her: Ok, I gotta be home by 12:30, but I'm gonna stay here for exactly two more minutes <---This was her sending me one final lifeline. The subtext is "make something happen in the next two minutes or you'll never see me again"

We talk about something platonic for the next few minutes. Then I tell her we should go. I see a look of visible frustration and disappointment on her face.

We get in my car and chat about how she lost her virginity in a playground for another couple minutes. I drop her off.

 

[Mystique]

Hey Bboy,
I just read an article of Chase's which he did a while ago titled: The Natural Mindset: Taking More Pleasure from Hook Ups. In the comment section, a guy wrote that he had issues lowering his standard for hookups and here was Chase's reply to him

Well, I'll give you an example.
I was in a martial arts class the other
day, and for the better part of an hour
I was partnered up with a slim girl
with short hair. She didn't have much
of a butt or breasts, and her face was
on the lower end of plain... dancing
around "unattractive" territory. She
was pretty quiet, and had sort of this
gruff, masculine demeanor - I'm 95%
certain she was a (skinny) butch
lesbian.
So anyway, I had my sexual appeal
turned on, as always, and when I'd
talk to her I'd be a little flirty with
her, as I am with women, and give
her my bedroom eyes and crack a
few jokes and make a few sexy facial
expressions. And she started
laughing and eating it up and getting
the look that lesbian gals do when
they're turned on but they know
they're not supposed to be turned on
but then they decide, "Screw it, I
want this guy."
And I just started getting kind of
excited about that. The girl wasn't
cute; I wasn't into her physically. But
her body was passable and what was
really intriguing to me was that here
is this girl who's a lesbian; probably
all of her experiences with men have
been unpleasant or unrewarding.
She's probably never had a fulfilling
sexual experience with a man, or
maybe she's NEVER had a sexual
experience with a man. Wouldn't it
just be a BLAST to blow this girl's
mind in bed and make her lay back
in bliss and go, "Wow... I had no
idea it could be like that with a guy. I
just didn't even know."
To me, that was exciting. And if you
look, you can find little things like
this that are exciting with any girl,
just about, IF you can get inside a
girl's head and see things from her
point of view.
The mousey girl in the library - she's
probably never had a resounding
sexual experience either.
The plain-looking girl - maybe she's
only ever slept with mediocre-looking
men and doesn't think a guy like you
would ever be interested in her. You
could make her feel like a QUEEN for
a night!
The girl with an annoying personality
- wouldn't it be great to just shut her
up with a stiff, hard cock? You'll
learn her good for being so
annoying...
The boring girl - you just sit there
and laugh internally at how boring
she is, and imagine how hard she's
going to be working TRYING to be
interesting after you rock her world,
because now she realizes that crap,
this is some guy she wants to stick
around and I was boring as hell
earlier. Damage control time.
The hardcore feminist - lets see how
equality minded you are when I'm
shoving my manhood down your
throat.
The eye-rolling girl who thinks she's
so awesome - just be sure to make
her beg for it once she's had a taste
of it and is lusting for an orgasm, and
all will be forgiven.
And so on and so forth. Looking for
ways to change her mind, open her
eyes, or even "put her in her place" /
have her submit (in a fun, sexy way)
through hard, satisfying sex for both
of you can be really fun, and once
you get used to thinking this way
there are few women able to escape
your sexual tractor beam.
The fun thing is, because they all
turn you on, that sets that feedback
loop in motion too, where every
woman around you is getting turned
on just being in your presence -
when women can tell that you are
aroused, THEY get aroused, and then
you're just having a blast.

Chase

 

[Bboy100]

Yeah, he actually wrote an entire article on it: https://www.girlschase.com/content/lower ... tter-girls

My standards for hook ups are considerably lower than they are for gfs or fwbs. But that doesn't mean I have no standards at all. There are certain girls whom I would not enjoy sleeping with. Simple as that.She was one of them. Chase is not trying to say that we should sleep with any girl who will have us. Rather, he's speaking to a crowd of people who have unbelievably high standards and will only hook up with girls if they're also good looking enough to date. That's not me (I know because I used to be that guy).

Also, as described by her story about her ex-bf and her blow up doll prom date (and several others I didn't write about in the report), she's fucking crazy. That means that if I hook up with her and she wants something more than that (and she did say she doesn't like it when she fucks a guy and he never calls her back), she could cause drama or worse. And I don't deal with that.

 

[Mystique]

Chase is not trying
to say that we should sleep with any
girl who will have us. Rather, he's
speaking to a crowd of people who
have unbelievably high standards and
will only hook up with girls if they're
also good looking enough to date.
That's not me (I know because I
used to be that guy).

Good to know you overcame that obstacle.
[/quote] Also, as described by her story about
her ex-bf and her blow up doll prom
date (and several others I didn't write
about in the report), she's fucking
crazy. That means that if I hook up
with her and she wants something
more than that (and she did say she
doesn't like it when she fucks a guy
and he never calls her back), she
could cause drama or worse.[/quote]
Haha... That would be some crazy stuff. Seems like there are a whole lot of women with personality disorders online. You know, that reminds me of something. Seppuku is into online game and he seems to always meet normal girls (based on his LRs), while other guys doing online game post LRs that shows evidences of the girls having some form of personality disorder. So would it mean that location determines the kinda girls you meet online. Like there are more girls inti online dating with personality disorders in Western countries than in others (e.g Asia). Or maybe it's the same everywhere. Just thinking...

 

[Bboy100]

There are quite a few variables with Seppaku which are different than the rest of us. First of all, he's older. As such, I would expect that he also dates at least some older women. The demographic of older women online might be different. Also, his game is better than both mine and most everyone else who posts here. I've met quite a few normal girls on Tinder, but crazy ones are typically easier to have an snl with. Out of all the Tinder girls I slept with on the same night I met them, there is only one who I might consider completely "normal". And she was just getting out of an LTR, so that would explain why it was so easy to hook up with her.

The rest of the normal girls required multiple dates which don't make for exciting LRs, so I didn't write them. Since Seppaku's game is so much better than everyone else's (and older women are a little more desperate), he's considerably more likely to have an SNL with a "normal" girl.

Also, Seppaku's LRs are typically written in a very concise and short way. Only the details relevant to the lay are included. As such, he may have omitted a lot of facts which might suggest that the girls he meets are crazy. If he finds this thread, I'm sure he'll let us know.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey BBoy,

Yeah I saw this report

I can relate, I had my share of online fatty surprises, but most of the time finished the job anyway, as a matter of courtesy, somehow in the same mindset as Chase's quote above. I now find it impolite not to fuck a girl that expects it from me. LOL.

But I agree with you, there are a few girls I met which were a definitive No, and I took the exit sort of the same as you here. One of these girls is still chasing me after 18 months.

There are quite a few variables with Seppaku which are different than the rest of us. First of all, he's older. As such, I would expect that he also dates at least some older women.

Most of the girls I date are 25 to 30. Yes I guess it's a different game than with 18 to 23 years old girls.

The demographic of older women online might be different.

The demographics is different because in my context all the girls I meet are foreign workforce. They all came into this country on a job. And they're coming, mostly, from all parts of Asia, but also Africa and Eastern Europe. That's why I'm having so much Philippines and Kenyan. Most of them are single mothers. I guess that makes for a different kind of girls.

Also, his game is better than both mine and most everyone else who posts here. I've met quite a few normal girls on Tinder, but crazy ones are typically easier to have an snl with. Out of all the Tinder girls I slept with on the same night I met them, there is only one who I might consider completely "normal". And she was just getting out of an LTR, so that would explain why it was so easy to hook up with her.

The rest of the normal girls required multiple dates which don't make for exciting LRs, so I didn't write them. Since Seppaku's game is so much better than everyone else's (and older women are a little more desperate), he's considerably more likely to have an SNL with a "normal" girl.

The desperate girls are above 33 years old. I try avoiding these girls and remaining one notch or two below this age group.

As for my game, I'm now finding it hard to pinpoint what I do exactly. Initial attraction in the pictures, then strictly non chasey text game. In person, smooth physical game. I guess it's now mostly in the vibe that comes from confidence.

Also, Seppaku's LRs are typically written in a very concise and short way. Only the details relevant to the lay are included. As such, he may have omitted a lot of facts which might suggest that the girls he meets are crazy. If he finds this thread, I'm sure he'll let us know.

I'm scratching my head to think if any of the girls I dated had obvious personality disorders. Maybe one or two, but in general I agree with Mystique, I met mostly "normal" girls. Maybe the age group / working professional / single mums demographics are the main factors behind the normal vs crazy girls?

BBoy what's your usual age group range? What's your experience with the 25 to 30 segment?

Seppuku
PS. By the way how old are you?

 

[Seppuku]

Another point.

Here in Doha, Tinder gives me next to nothing. Badoo gives me tons of girls. I do match girls in Tinder but can't seem to get anywhere. Is it because the target demographics is different in both apps? Not sure.

Maybe you want to try another online dating app and see what sort of girls you get?

Cheers,
Seppuku

 

[Bboy100]

BBoy what's your usual age group range? What's your experience with the 25 to 30 segment?

Seppuku
PS. By the way how old are you?

I'm 22. As such, I've had almost no experience with 25 to 30 because most of them don't match with me (probably because of my age and because my profile is geared towards college aged women). As such, most the girls I date are 22 or younger. I can only remember having gone out with two girls 25 to 30. One was a girl who might have been crazy. I'm not sure...depends on how we define it. She was married with two kids but wanted a divorce and she wanted her husband to initiate it (she didn't tell me all this till the end of our date), hooked up with me 15 minutes after I met her in a parking lot in the back of her truck and told me to "cum inside of her because she wants my babies". She also asked me to marry her 3 times. Maybe she was joking, maybe they were just things she said in the heat of the moment. I certainly can't say for sure that she had a personality disorder, but altogether, those are all definitely a red flag.

The second girl I met was a 29 year old single young professional. She was my 3rd or 4th date ever. She was giving me escalation windows as wide as the ones I discussed in the report above. But I missed all of them cause I didn't know what I was doing lol. So I definitely could have slept with her if I just took action. But she did seem pretty normal. Behaviorally, there were no red flags. Given the opportunity, I would hang out with her again.

Here in Doha, Tinder gives me next to nothing. Badoo gives me tons of girls. I do match girls in Tinder but can't seem to get anywhere. Is it because the target demographics is different in both apps? Not sure.

Maybe you want to try another online dating app and see what sort of girls you get?

I'm the exact opposite ahaha. When I try other apps, girls don't match me, and if its Okcupid or POF, they don't reply to me. Even when I use the same pics. I'm not sure why this is. I'm marginally more successful on Tinder than on any other platform. I've never tried badoo though. Hadn't even heard of it till now. Will download it now.

 

[Seppuku]

I've never tried badoo though. Hadn't even heard of it till now. Will download it now.

Give it a try. It's different from the pure online dating like POF, and closer to Tinder. It has a very wide user base in the world. It worked very well for me here, or in Thailand, Singapore, Philippines. Curious to hear about your experience of it in North America. You can also use it to browse girls in other countries / cities, like ahead of an upcoming trip.

Seppuku

 

[Big Daddy]

Dude, the worst two nights of my life happened when I made the horrible decision to fuck girls I wasn't attracted to, "but hey, I'd be down to have that blowjob." The best thing I can say when going for girls like this is: make her suck the shit out of your cock to make it worth it, and for fuck's sake, turn off the lights.

I didn't and that's a regret I'll have to live with for the rest of my life.

PS: The girl wasn't even that unattractive, as in 30 lbs overweight. I just wasn't attracted to her. Like eating when you don't want to.

 

[CookMasterChef]

I agree with BD on this one. You should of just had her give you some sloppy toppy lol. So that way you could be in the back of your head imaging someone else while she is having a good time with some cock in her mouth. It is a win win