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I met this girl at the mall today. She wasn't particularly hot but definitely fuckable, especially without clothes.
Simple enough I caught up to her from behind (I know there was a thread someone posted not too long ago saying that its pointless to approach from behind and doesn't work...) and opened indirectly asking where a good coffee place close by is.
We started chatting and found we live close to one another and we exchanged numbers.
I wasn't that into her and just kind of wrote it off as a warm up approach but I sent her an icebreaker and she responded to it and asked me a question.
I set up a date for later in the night at a location very close to my house (good logistics) and we went on a date. The date went well and I ended up bringing her back to my place.
I did this by telling her about a park in front of my house and that we'll make a desert and eat it there, but once we got back to my place we just went inside and ate it in my room instead
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We listen to music, feed each other berries dramatically, and on the last berry we split by me putting half in my mouth and her having to bite the other half off.
We talk about 50 Shades of Grey and I start calling her by her last name and do a bit of role playing which she ate up (she read all 3 of the books).
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From here on out I'm going to list the escalation and what mistakes I made in chronology.
First mistake I made (I think it was a mistake) was kissing her and then immediately going to change the music. When this happened I think it gave her a moment to get back into "logical" mode and think "oh shit this is about to lead to sex. ASD commence now!"
Now I'm sure theres a way to do this and increase the sexual tension but it seems to me if your going to kiss you should be in full on passionate fuck mode. Not peck here and there and then full on fuck mode. Though as aforementioned I'm sure there's a way to do it.
After this I put music on, kept conversation as normal, and lit some candles. Tried to give us messages which she resisted. I then bullshitted with her and her emotions and started making out with her now. It was a bit impassionate and she wasn't super engaged so I told her to shove her tounge down my throat which she did and got more turned on. (We know she likes being commanded). I then told her to suck my neck and she did.
She kept saying "I think it's time for me to go" and start to get up. I would just say a little quip and keep making out. I then went to unbutton her pants and she stopped and got up.
I told her to sit back down and then would bullshit more with her.
One thing I did that worked that was cool/funny was when she threw an objection and said it was time to go I ignored her frame and told her to suck my nipple. She refused and I told her I had fruit juice in my nipple and if she sucked it she could get some sweet juice. She laughed and I took her hand, put her finger in her mouth and told her to suck it, then slid her wet finger on my nipple, and put her finger back into her mouth and asked her "is it sweet?". She was laughing and replied that it was. This totally blew her out of her autopilot response of leaving and building comfort/sexuality at the same time.
Soon after she was about to leave again I said something and brought her back on top of me. I knew I needed to get her chasing a bit so I told her to kiss me. She said no so I told her to pretend she had a gun to her head and that she was going to live for another 30 seconds and she could either kiss passionately or die a lame death. She looked at me deep in the eye and I thought for a second she wouldn't do it but I kept taunting her and saying the guy was just cocking his gun and aiming it at her head and the next thing I knew she was shoving her tongue down my throat again.
I flipped her back over and things got passionate for a second until I went to take her pants off and she started to get up again. So I had a conflict here in that she was into me and turned on by me but when I went for the money her logical mind would kick in and she would get up. I failed to even bring up/deep dive her objections because I really didn't know how to do it whilst staying on an emotional level (didn't want to get logical and then ruin the moment altogether).
I think one thing I could've tried would be to get her turned on more and then right before going for the button to her pants say something to agree to her emotional mind and bypass her logical mind. Perhaps "quick before no one notices" and then undo her button.
Soon she got up again and was getting ready to leave and I told her to take my shirt off and lick my nipple. As a joke I pretended to rape her with my nipple in her mouth but she got up soon after.
The next mistake I believe I made: She then put one of my hats on and I told her she couldn't leave with it otherwise she'd get spanked. She thought this was intriguing and pulled the hat off and came over to me. I then set up a mini role play and told her to respect authority (inside joke from earlier) and then I pulled her hands behind her back and pushed her into a wall and started kissing her from behind whilst simultaneously putting her hands on my erection in my pants which she grabbed at. We stayed like this for a minute and then she said she had to go again and started to walk out of the room in which I let her go.
Instead while making out with her from behind I should've stopped looked her deep in the eye and told her to get on her knees and suck my dick... I'm pretty positive this would've worked and why I didn't think of it is beyond me.
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The main gist here is that I fucked up by not hitting one of my main rules of "Persisting without exception" (aka hammering it out to the bitter end) and simply let her go without persisting hard enough. Her actions said she wanted me (her following my commands to kiss me and getting more passionate when I commanded her; her feeling my cock through my pants and putting her hands around my shaft) but I was a bit jaded by her objection to leave and I shouldn't allowed this to stifle my actions.
I should've tried a yes ladder, deepdiving her objections to see if I could handle her logical objections, and commanding her further (which she was responding well to).
I think I fucked this up and I doubt there is much hope for a second chance as posed in the article "2nd date strategies to make her flirt and swoon".
Pretty fucking pissed I didn't try harder. IDK why I didn't since I had nothing to lose but for some reason my brain was under the impression that she would come back soon and be down because she's "conservative"... Looking back I don't think that's going to be the case chief.
Fucking A I was close and had no reason for what I did.
Now I'm an impotent sterile man unworthy of sex and emasculated... haha well at least it can't get much worse than that!
However I think she might be a bit inexperienced so I'm going to keep tabs on her and try and do my best to get her chasing (somehow??) and then go from there.
We'll see how it pans out.
Good experience to have nonetheless and I'm more prepared for next time but damn I didn't close out good enough!
-Rob
I met this girl at the mall today. She wasn't particularly hot but definitely fuckable, especially without clothes.
Simple enough I caught up to her from behind (I know there was a thread someone posted not too long ago saying that its pointless to approach from behind and doesn't work...) and opened indirectly asking where a good coffee place close by is.
We started chatting and found we live close to one another and we exchanged numbers.
I wasn't that into her and just kind of wrote it off as a warm up approach but I sent her an icebreaker and she responded to it and asked me a question.
I set up a date for later in the night at a location very close to my house (good logistics) and we went on a date. The date went well and I ended up bringing her back to my place.
I did this by telling her about a park in front of my house and that we'll make a desert and eat it there, but once we got back to my place we just went inside and ate it in my room instead
.We listen to music, feed each other berries dramatically, and on the last berry we split by me putting half in my mouth and her having to bite the other half off.
We talk about 50 Shades of Grey and I start calling her by her last name and do a bit of role playing which she ate up (she read all 3 of the books).
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From here on out I'm going to list the escalation and what mistakes I made in chronology.
First mistake I made (I think it was a mistake) was kissing her and then immediately going to change the music. When this happened I think it gave her a moment to get back into "logical" mode and think "oh shit this is about to lead to sex. ASD commence now!"
Now I'm sure theres a way to do this and increase the sexual tension but it seems to me if your going to kiss you should be in full on passionate fuck mode. Not peck here and there and then full on fuck mode. Though as aforementioned I'm sure there's a way to do it.
After this I put music on, kept conversation as normal, and lit some candles. Tried to give us messages which she resisted. I then bullshitted with her and her emotions and started making out with her now. It was a bit impassionate and she wasn't super engaged so I told her to shove her tounge down my throat which she did and got more turned on. (We know she likes being commanded). I then told her to suck my neck and she did.
She kept saying "I think it's time for me to go" and start to get up. I would just say a little quip and keep making out. I then went to unbutton her pants and she stopped and got up.
I told her to sit back down and then would bullshit more with her.
One thing I did that worked that was cool/funny was when she threw an objection and said it was time to go I ignored her frame and told her to suck my nipple. She refused and I told her I had fruit juice in my nipple and if she sucked it she could get some sweet juice. She laughed and I took her hand, put her finger in her mouth and told her to suck it, then slid her wet finger on my nipple, and put her finger back into her mouth and asked her "is it sweet?". She was laughing and replied that it was. This totally blew her out of her autopilot response of leaving and building comfort/sexuality at the same time.
Soon after she was about to leave again I said something and brought her back on top of me. I knew I needed to get her chasing a bit so I told her to kiss me. She said no so I told her to pretend she had a gun to her head and that she was going to live for another 30 seconds and she could either kiss passionately or die a lame death. She looked at me deep in the eye and I thought for a second she wouldn't do it but I kept taunting her and saying the guy was just cocking his gun and aiming it at her head and the next thing I knew she was shoving her tongue down my throat again.
I flipped her back over and things got passionate for a second until I went to take her pants off and she started to get up again. So I had a conflict here in that she was into me and turned on by me but when I went for the money her logical mind would kick in and she would get up. I failed to even bring up/deep dive her objections because I really didn't know how to do it whilst staying on an emotional level (didn't want to get logical and then ruin the moment altogether).
I think one thing I could've tried would be to get her turned on more and then right before going for the button to her pants say something to agree to her emotional mind and bypass her logical mind. Perhaps "quick before no one notices" and then undo her button.
Soon she got up again and was getting ready to leave and I told her to take my shirt off and lick my nipple. As a joke I pretended to rape her with my nipple in her mouth but she got up soon after.
The next mistake I believe I made: She then put one of my hats on and I told her she couldn't leave with it otherwise she'd get spanked. She thought this was intriguing and pulled the hat off and came over to me. I then set up a mini role play and told her to respect authority (inside joke from earlier) and then I pulled her hands behind her back and pushed her into a wall and started kissing her from behind whilst simultaneously putting her hands on my erection in my pants which she grabbed at. We stayed like this for a minute and then she said she had to go again and started to walk out of the room in which I let her go.
Instead while making out with her from behind I should've stopped looked her deep in the eye and told her to get on her knees and suck my dick... I'm pretty positive this would've worked and why I didn't think of it is beyond me.
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The main gist here is that I fucked up by not hitting one of my main rules of "Persisting without exception" (aka hammering it out to the bitter end) and simply let her go without persisting hard enough. Her actions said she wanted me (her following my commands to kiss me and getting more passionate when I commanded her; her feeling my cock through my pants and putting her hands around my shaft) but I was a bit jaded by her objection to leave and I shouldn't allowed this to stifle my actions.
I should've tried a yes ladder, deepdiving her objections to see if I could handle her logical objections, and commanding her further (which she was responding well to).
I think I fucked this up and I doubt there is much hope for a second chance as posed in the article "2nd date strategies to make her flirt and swoon".
Pretty fucking pissed I didn't try harder. IDK why I didn't since I had nothing to lose but for some reason my brain was under the impression that she would come back soon and be down because she's "conservative"... Looking back I don't think that's going to be the case chief.
Fucking A I was close and had no reason for what I did.
Now I'm an impotent sterile man unworthy of sex and emasculated... haha well at least it can't get much worse than that!
However I think she might be a bit inexperienced so I'm going to keep tabs on her and try and do my best to get her chasing (somehow??) and then go from there.
We'll see how it pans out.
Good experience to have nonetheless and I'm more prepared for next time but damn I didn't close out good enough!
-Rob
