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Hey all its been a while. I took some time off to focus on other things, and just recently accomplished my main goals for this year. Now that I have more time, I can get back to the important stuff 
I should be a lot more active on these boards from now on.
For those who don't know me, I'm Verisimilitude, V for short. Let's get to the LR!
My job was having a happy hour and I since I didn't have any plans, I decided to go. When I showed up at the bar one of my friends from work had brought a friend who lived in the area. The girls name was Jennifer. Jennifer is an Asian girl with some one of the best bodies I've ever seen. She had large D cups, a waist so small that I can nearly fit my hands around (I tried it) and an ass that shouldn't be able to fit on that waist. She's short, but her legs are really long and slender. Her body looked like it belonged on a barbie doll.
In short, this girl has a lot to thank her mama for. I'm usually not into Asian chicks (I don't know why, I just can't help it) so when she started talking to me, I wasn't even going for it, just relaxing and talking like normal. But after a few drinks, she touches my chest and tells me that I'm so strong. I look at her and for the first time, she turns me on. She had been flirting a little bit before, and the fact that she was talking to me so much was a clue, but I didn't really pick up on it until after she touched me. And I love when a girl chases me . I've been taking a break from seduction, but my fundamentals were still strong. Having good fundamentals are like riding a bike, you never forget. Solid fundamentals are 75% of my game and cover so many of my flaws.
She also starts to ask me a bunch of questions about myself (chasing) and she's looking for interests we share. She's doing my job for me. We start talking about video games and start chatting. At this point we are both touching each other. If this was college, it'd be on, but this girl is with her friend and everyone who I work with. So I grab her number.
A few days later, she invites me to a concert in the city. Its with her and other people from my job. If I was following GC rules, I probably wouldn't go to this and just ask her out on a date with just us. But I felt like she was investing and I didn't feel like she was comfortable enough with me to have sex. So I go with her, thinking I could get her away and take her home. I went to the concert/festival and had a great time. One of the other guys in the group kept hitting on Jennifer, but every time he did, she'd just get closer to me and make it more obvious that she wanted me. My fundamentals blew his out of the water, and by following the law of least effort I got the guy to push Jennifer to chase me. For example, he tried to kiss her on the cheek, and she walked away from and kissed me on the cheek. I didn't even have to work that hard to get this girl.
Before the concert started there was a carnival fair game outside and the other guy challenged me to play (probably trying to impress Jennifer). I almost didn't indulge him (why bother?), but then I rolled my eyes and just acted like I was gonna half ass it. So even if he beat me, it would look like I didn't try. I ended up kicking his ass and winning. Jennifer loved it. She came up to me and whispered, that she was really competitive and was glad I won. Looking back, this was a test for me. If I turn the guy down, I look weak and if I lose, I look bad and lose value. Winning or just ignoring him was the best choice. But I think we would have slept together even if I lost. I have a tendency to obsess over little things like this and turn them into big things. So while it was a test, IMO really this is was minor part of the lay. By playing it cool, I kept myself from freaking out.
During the opening act, we both snuck away into a bar. She started talking about all the lame ways that guys had asked her out (over text, over facebook, etc.). She couldn't have been more obvious unless she just asked me out herself. Since she was feeling good, I decided to ask her on a date for the next weekend. She really smiled then and said yes (obviously). Right after she agreed to go on a date with me, I kissed her. It was a really bad kiss. Her lips were really skinny and if I kissed her like I usually kiss girls, I'd bump her teeth. But I just smiled and went on like it was the best ever. She told me she had been waiting to do that (which means I probably should have done it sooner). By now the concert was starting. At the concert, we danced, and I kissed her again and it was much better. I didn't rush in, I just let her lips hang on mine.
After the band played, she invited me to a bar after and her friends left. I thought I was going to take her home for sure then, but after 15 minutes she mentioned she had a ride coming. I said that wasn't necessary and offered to take her home, but then she told me it was her mom. Oh. There's no way that I could have taken her home after that. I also found out she lives with her parents (real life right after college sucks).
On Friday there was another work happy hour. I went and surprise surprise Jennifer is there again. The bar was cash only and because I didn't have cash, she actually bought my drinks (investment). More guys kept hitting on her, and she eventually got so fed up with it, she just sat on my lap. People kept on bothering us though. A girl came up to us and asked if we were boyfriend and girlfriend. Jennifer was on it and told her that we were friends and yes I was a boy and she was a girl. She also did a little move with her ass when she said this, so I knew she wasn't saying we were just friends. Does anyone know/explain why we were getting a lot of challenges from other people? It was really weird.
I actually fucked up here and could have lost the whole interaction. I had to grab something from my car, and she said she'd come with me. This was clearly a chance for us to escalate, but I fucked it up by not remembering where I parked my car. I could tell she was getting annoyed and I got really needy too. Just a really bad situation. That's a pretty major flaw in my game. I want everything to be perfect, so when I slip up it makes things much worse.
I'm wondering if someone can chime in or point me to an article about on what to do when something like this happens. The solution clearly isn't to cut out the whole interaction and count it as a loss, but I don't really know how to react to messing up something like this. Maybe the best thing is to just make a joke of it and move on, but the spell was broken for a bit
So I was pretty bummed about this, and I actually let her walk off to talk to her friend for a bit when we got back into the bar. But she came back a couple minutes later and was flirty again. I think I have her friend to thank for convincing her about me. I didn't try to invite her home, because I knew she had already got her mom to pick her up and we were going on a date the next day. I did hint that I'd invite her home when we went out on Saturday and she got all tense. It was weird at the time but would made sense later.
The next day, I took her out during the day to a park nearby. I figured if I took her out to get drinks, there would less time, where if I took her out during the day, we could hang out, then go back to my place. So we went to the park and got snowballs. It was a lot of fun and I paid for the date because she bought my drinks. We actually spent a lot of time there. We talked about the night before and she apologized for freaking out when I couldn't find my car. We really were connecting, so I invited her back to my place. She tensed up and said she couldn't. I was kinda shocked so I pushed. I found out that she was on her period. This was the defining moment of the interaction. I almost pussed out, but when I was walking her back, I pushed a little harder (still not a hard push) and told her we didn't have to have sex, but I refused to accept all the time we spent hanging out would lead to nothing. She decided to come back with me. When I told her I had wine at my place she relaxed (plausible deniability).
Once we got to my place, I started to escalate, fully expecting her to stop me. But she gave me no LMR. Like none at all. So I kept going and she eventually told me I should get a condom. Then it was on. She actually started touching herself while we fucked. I think I'm gonna ask more girls to do this, because its hot as fuck and gets them going. Her pussy was shaved and looked amazing when she rubbed her clit.
She had a great time and actually told me after she would have been so let down if she didn't come back with me. I still need to learn that actions always trump words for women. If the girls is into you and she resists, don't be afraid to push a little harder. Obviously, don't rape and stop if she seriously says no a couple times, but don't let resistance deter you.
I had two problems with sex.
The first was the condoms kinda made me lose my hard on. I'm not trying to brag, but I'm pretty big. The condom fit me length wise, but width wise, it was too tight and I lost my boner. Any advice for this?
The second is I have no endurance when fucking. I'm a healthy guy and can run for a while no problem, but I can't fuck for as long as I'd like. I get tired when thrusting, even when she's on top. Does anyone know how to get better at this? Is there an exercise for this?
For those who don't know me, I always like to write down the lessons I learned from my LR and follow up questions I have. Its super helpful for me and I think it helps people who have the same questions as me. So here goes:
Lessons learned:
1. Fundamentals are everything. And since they're mainly habits (how you walk, how you talk to people, how you show emotions, how you dress) you never lose them. I've said it before, but when you have fundamentals down, its like playing on easy mode. Girls hit on you, they move things forward, and forgive mistakes. I actually had another girl from where I work hit on me when I was hanging out with Jennifer.
2. A mistake doesn't have to be fatal. I slipped up and made an even bigger mess of it by getting needy, but I recovered and still had sex with her.
3. A girl will fuck on her period if things are right. I put a towel down, but there was literally no mess, except a little blood on my dick after.
4. Actions > words for girls. What she says isn't always what she means. If you can see through that, she'll appreciate it.
5. Competition from other guys isn't always bad. In this case, the more guys hit on her, the more she wanted to be with me. Of course, I my value was higher than any other guy who hit on her, but that goes back to point #1.
Questions:
1. Why were so many people challenging us? Jennifer was getting lots of guys hitting on her, and even when we were sitting together, girls were coming up to us too (like that weird boyfriend/girlfriend question)
2. What is the best way to recover from a slip up? I refuse to believe that one slip up, even a major one, is game over. Sometimes it can be, but not always. What is the best way to handle it so things don't get ruined?
I want to be 100% all the time, but clearly that is impossible. If guys had to be perfect all the time, relationships wouldn't work because eventually everyone makes a mistake.
3. How do I keep a hard on with a tight condom?
4. How do I not get tired during sex? My legs really get tired mostly, especially when thrusting.
All in all, I had a great time with this girl. I think she may be a new FWB. Its good to be back.
-V
I should be a lot more active on these boards from now on.For those who don't know me, I'm Verisimilitude, V for short. Let's get to the LR!
My job was having a happy hour and I since I didn't have any plans, I decided to go. When I showed up at the bar one of my friends from work had brought a friend who lived in the area. The girls name was Jennifer. Jennifer is an Asian girl with some one of the best bodies I've ever seen. She had large D cups, a waist so small that I can nearly fit my hands around (I tried it) and an ass that shouldn't be able to fit on that waist. She's short, but her legs are really long and slender. Her body looked like it belonged on a barbie doll.
In short, this girl has a lot to thank her mama for
. I'm usually not into Asian chicks (I don't know why, I just can't help it) so when she started talking to me, I wasn't even going for it, just relaxing and talking like normal. But after a few drinks, she touches my chest and tells me that I'm so strong. I look at her and for the first time, she turns me on. She had been flirting a little bit before, and the fact that she was talking to me so much was a clue, but I didn't really pick up on it until after she touched me. And I love when a girl chases me . I've been taking a break from seduction, but my fundamentals were still strong. Having good fundamentals are like riding a bike, you never forget. Solid fundamentals are 75% of my game and cover so many of my flaws.She also starts to ask me a bunch of questions about myself (chasing) and she's looking for interests we share. She's doing my job for me. We start talking about video games and start chatting. At this point we are both touching each other. If this was college, it'd be on, but this girl is with her friend and everyone who I work with. So I grab her number.
A few days later, she invites me to a concert in the city. Its with her and other people from my job. If I was following GC rules, I probably wouldn't go to this and just ask her out on a date with just us. But I felt like she was investing and I didn't feel like she was comfortable enough with me to have sex. So I go with her, thinking I could get her away and take her home. I went to the concert/festival and had a great time. One of the other guys in the group kept hitting on Jennifer, but every time he did, she'd just get closer to me and make it more obvious that she wanted me. My fundamentals blew his out of the water, and by following the law of least effort I got the guy to push Jennifer to chase me. For example, he tried to kiss her on the cheek, and she walked away from and kissed me on the cheek
. I didn't even have to work that hard to get this girl.Before the concert started there was a carnival fair game outside and the other guy challenged me to play (probably trying to impress Jennifer). I almost didn't indulge him (why bother?), but then I rolled my eyes and just acted like I was gonna half ass it. So even if he beat me, it would look like I didn't try. I ended up kicking his ass and winning. Jennifer loved it. She came up to me and whispered, that she was really competitive and was glad I won. Looking back, this was a test for me. If I turn the guy down, I look weak and if I lose, I look bad and lose value. Winning or just ignoring him was the best choice. But I think we would have slept together even if I lost. I have a tendency to obsess over little things like this and turn them into big things. So while it was a test, IMO really this is was minor part of the lay. By playing it cool, I kept myself from freaking out.
During the opening act, we both snuck away into a bar. She started talking about all the lame ways that guys had asked her out (over text, over facebook, etc.). She couldn't have been more obvious unless she just asked me out herself. Since she was feeling good, I decided to ask her on a date for the next weekend. She really smiled then and said yes (obviously). Right after she agreed to go on a date with me, I kissed her. It was a really bad kiss. Her lips were really skinny and if I kissed her like I usually kiss girls, I'd bump her teeth. But I just smiled and went on like it was the best ever. She told me she had been waiting to do that (which means I probably should have done it sooner). By now the concert was starting. At the concert, we danced, and I kissed her again and it was much better. I didn't rush in, I just let her lips hang on mine.
After the band played, she invited me to a bar after and her friends left. I thought I was going to take her home for sure then, but after 15 minutes she mentioned she had a ride coming. I said that wasn't necessary and offered to take her home, but then she told me it was her mom. Oh. There's no way that I could have taken her home after that. I also found out she lives with her parents (real life right after college sucks).
On Friday there was another work happy hour. I went and surprise surprise Jennifer is there again. The bar was cash only and because I didn't have cash, she actually bought my drinks (investment). More guys kept hitting on her, and she eventually got so fed up with it, she just sat on my lap. People kept on bothering us though. A girl came up to us and asked if we were boyfriend and girlfriend. Jennifer was on it and told her that we were friends and yes I was a boy and she was a girl. She also did a little move with her ass when she said this, so I knew she wasn't saying we were just friends. Does anyone know/explain why we were getting a lot of challenges from other people? It was really weird.
I actually fucked up here and could have lost the whole interaction. I had to grab something from my car, and she said she'd come with me. This was clearly a chance for us to escalate, but I fucked it up by not remembering where I parked my car. I could tell she was getting annoyed and I got really needy too. Just a really bad situation. That's a pretty major flaw in my game. I want everything to be perfect, so when I slip up it makes things much worse.
I'm wondering if someone can chime in or point me to an article about on what to do when something like this happens. The solution clearly isn't to cut out the whole interaction and count it as a loss, but I don't really know how to react to messing up something like this. Maybe the best thing is to just make a joke of it and move on, but the spell was broken for a bit
So I was pretty bummed about this, and I actually let her walk off to talk to her friend for a bit when we got back into the bar. But she came back a couple minutes later and was flirty again. I think I have her friend to thank for convincing her about me. I didn't try to invite her home, because I knew she had already got her mom to pick her up and we were going on a date the next day. I did hint that I'd invite her home when we went out on Saturday and she got all tense. It was weird at the time but would made sense later.
The next day, I took her out during the day to a park nearby. I figured if I took her out to get drinks, there would less time, where if I took her out during the day, we could hang out, then go back to my place. So we went to the park and got snowballs. It was a lot of fun and I paid for the date because she bought my drinks. We actually spent a lot of time there. We talked about the night before and she apologized for freaking out when I couldn't find my car. We really were connecting, so I invited her back to my place. She tensed up and said she couldn't. I was kinda shocked so I pushed. I found out that she was on her period. This was the defining moment of the interaction. I almost pussed out, but when I was walking her back, I pushed a little harder (still not a hard push) and told her we didn't have to have sex, but I refused to accept all the time we spent hanging out would lead to nothing. She decided to come back with me. When I told her I had wine at my place she relaxed (plausible deniability).
Once we got to my place, I started to escalate, fully expecting her to stop me. But she gave me no LMR. Like none at all. So I kept going and she eventually told me I should get a condom. Then it was on. She actually started touching herself while we fucked. I think I'm gonna ask more girls to do this, because its hot as fuck and gets them going. Her pussy was shaved and looked amazing when she rubbed her clit.
She had a great time and actually told me after she would have been so let down if she didn't come back with me. I still need to learn that actions always trump words for women. If the girls is into you and she resists, don't be afraid to push a little harder. Obviously, don't rape and stop if she seriously says no a couple times, but don't let resistance deter you.
I had two problems with sex.
The first was the condoms kinda made me lose my hard on. I'm not trying to brag, but I'm pretty big. The condom fit me length wise, but width wise, it was too tight and I lost my boner. Any advice for this?
The second is I have no endurance when fucking. I'm a healthy guy and can run for a while no problem, but I can't fuck for as long as I'd like. I get tired when thrusting, even when she's on top. Does anyone know how to get better at this? Is there an exercise for this?
For those who don't know me, I always like to write down the lessons I learned from my LR and follow up questions I have. Its super helpful for me and I think it helps people who have the same questions as me. So here goes:
Lessons learned:
1. Fundamentals are everything. And since they're mainly habits (how you walk, how you talk to people, how you show emotions, how you dress) you never lose them. I've said it before, but when you have fundamentals down, its like playing on easy mode. Girls hit on you, they move things forward, and forgive mistakes. I actually had another girl from where I work hit on me when I was hanging out with Jennifer.
2. A mistake doesn't have to be fatal. I slipped up and made an even bigger mess of it by getting needy, but I recovered and still had sex with her.
3. A girl will fuck on her period if things are right. I put a towel down, but there was literally no mess, except a little blood on my dick after.
4. Actions > words for girls. What she says isn't always what she means. If you can see through that, she'll appreciate it.
5. Competition from other guys isn't always bad. In this case, the more guys hit on her, the more she wanted to be with me. Of course, I my value was higher than any other guy who hit on her, but that goes back to point #1.
Questions:
1. Why were so many people challenging us? Jennifer was getting lots of guys hitting on her, and even when we were sitting together, girls were coming up to us too (like that weird boyfriend/girlfriend question)
2. What is the best way to recover from a slip up? I refuse to believe that one slip up, even a major one, is game over. Sometimes it can be, but not always. What is the best way to handle it so things don't get ruined?
I want to be 100% all the time, but clearly that is impossible. If guys had to be perfect all the time, relationships wouldn't work because eventually everyone makes a mistake.
3. How do I keep a hard on with a tight condom?
4. How do I not get tired during sex? My legs really get tired mostly, especially when thrusting.
All in all, I had a great time with this girl. I think she may be a new FWB. Its good to be back.
-V
