Hey guys, I'am curious how you would aproach this situation.
A brief background
Over the past two. Over the past few years I started to get much better with women than I had been in the past. I decided I wanted to go out and get better with women. I taught myself, as I was never really exposed to pick up at the time. It has been a bumpy road. Recently, I broke through a wall. I am realizing that woman have allways been attracted to me. I just didn't know what to do with it. I one trouble I always had was with girls where I just couldn't tell if they were in to me
A met this girl about six monthes ago. We will call her Ann. We roll in similar circles. A friends of friends sort of thing. I got her number the first time we met. But when it came time to hang out she said only as friends. I hadn't had my major breakthrough at this point. I stumbled. Over next few monthes we would see eachother from time to time. We would play this game where I would seem disinterested in her, she would a approach me for conversation and I would just say hey and move on. Then every now and then I would be way flirty. She would be somewhat responsive but I could never move her or get her to hang out. I could tell she was giving me hints, that she was interested but testing me. I couldn't figure it out though. I didn't know how to lead like I do now.
All the while I am hitting the pavement and putting in the hours for the first time in the two years since I decided to get good with women. I divcovered this site and it pretty much filled in the gaps of things I had allready been learning on my own. I learned so much in my approaches and have had more success than ever. Women have even started to approach me, or actualy jerk thier head around when I walk past. Woman I jabe just met. Telling me I am gorgeous or "Fun". A lot of rejections as well, but way more success. Of course Ann notices my social proof and she starts to question wheather she read me wrong. We still go a similar dance that we did before, but this time I never flirt. She starts to see me as less obtainable than she thought I was.
One night circumstances line up in a way that we are in a more intimate setting. We are with three other people. A small gathering. She was not expecting me to be there. I am invited last moment, a show up unbeknownst to her. Ever thing is cool, a real easy vibe. . We end up taking a secret moment for a steamy kiss. I probably could have taken things further but didn't want to push my luck. As I could tell I at least had her hook for a date. Also, logistics that night made it tricky to feel confident in a full suduction. We set up a date.
So here is my question. How would you approach the date given the history.
-She originaly saw me as too easy but started to see me as more of a challenge.
-We have allready kissed and that sets a cetain precedent.
-Circumstances prevent the use of my home so it is either I have to get her back to her place. Or Car game. I am much stronger at car game than getting a girl to have me over at her place. But I would prefer her place so we can realy go at it, and I can make her remember me for certain (if you know what i mean)
Because we kissed I feel like I should approach this date like a second date. Becuase of this I wonder if she will be putting me in the boyfriend catagory and put up a ton of resistence. The kiss worries me. One the one hand it got her hooked for a date, on the other it has created the potential for strong resistence.
One thing I learned about her the other night is that she wants me to lead but also likes feeling like she has room for decisions. Can't be too passive with her and can't be too pushy. Really have to walk the line with her. I get a strong feeling that she is obtainable, but I really have to play my cards right with this one. I have always felt like there has been a connection between us, and I was right. She was playing it hard to get. Now she is receptive, but it would be dangerous to assume the cat is in the bag. I do assume attraction, but I also have to make the right moves. I can tell she will test hard.
Scenario 1: pick her up at her place. Play things lightly at first. Only a kiss on the cheek when greeting, not on the lips. Take the lead but keep her guessing.She is the adventureous type, and I know a great sunset walk we will go on. Its about 45 minuets. Create moments that seem like they could be a kiss but then back off. Basical build the tension and get her wondering if it will go down. Save the kiss for when we are at her place, but still be physical and flirty. Then suggest we pick up some diner and have it at her place.
Downside is that she may boyfriend catagory me by the time we are at her place.
Scenario 2: Same date plan as 2 but this time I go physical hard from the get go. Act as if we have not only already kissed, but already had sex. When I pick her up go for a steamy kiss but break it off right before she has to the chance to. During the walk spin her around and into my arms and breath in her ear, then keep moving.
Downside is she may have serious slut resitance and not want to go back to her place
Scenario 3 is the same as 1 but instead of trying to get her back to her place I go car seduction. This makes it so she doesn't really have enough time to boyfiend zone me.
Downside is I cannot give her the sex I can fully give her in a bed to keep her hooked.
Scenario
Any thoughts?
A brief background
Over the past two. Over the past few years I started to get much better with women than I had been in the past. I decided I wanted to go out and get better with women. I taught myself, as I was never really exposed to pick up at the time. It has been a bumpy road. Recently, I broke through a wall. I am realizing that woman have allways been attracted to me. I just didn't know what to do with it. I one trouble I always had was with girls where I just couldn't tell if they were in to me
A met this girl about six monthes ago. We will call her Ann. We roll in similar circles. A friends of friends sort of thing. I got her number the first time we met. But when it came time to hang out she said only as friends. I hadn't had my major breakthrough at this point. I stumbled. Over next few monthes we would see eachother from time to time. We would play this game where I would seem disinterested in her, she would a approach me for conversation and I would just say hey and move on. Then every now and then I would be way flirty. She would be somewhat responsive but I could never move her or get her to hang out. I could tell she was giving me hints, that she was interested but testing me. I couldn't figure it out though. I didn't know how to lead like I do now.
All the while I am hitting the pavement and putting in the hours for the first time in the two years since I decided to get good with women. I divcovered this site and it pretty much filled in the gaps of things I had allready been learning on my own. I learned so much in my approaches and have had more success than ever. Women have even started to approach me, or actualy jerk thier head around when I walk past. Woman I jabe just met. Telling me I am gorgeous or "Fun". A lot of rejections as well, but way more success. Of course Ann notices my social proof and she starts to question wheather she read me wrong. We still go a similar dance that we did before, but this time I never flirt. She starts to see me as less obtainable than she thought I was.
One night circumstances line up in a way that we are in a more intimate setting. We are with three other people. A small gathering. She was not expecting me to be there. I am invited last moment, a show up unbeknownst to her. Ever thing is cool, a real easy vibe. . We end up taking a secret moment for a steamy kiss. I probably could have taken things further but didn't want to push my luck. As I could tell I at least had her hook for a date. Also, logistics that night made it tricky to feel confident in a full suduction. We set up a date.
So here is my question. How would you approach the date given the history.
-She originaly saw me as too easy but started to see me as more of a challenge.
-We have allready kissed and that sets a cetain precedent.
-Circumstances prevent the use of my home so it is either I have to get her back to her place. Or Car game. I am much stronger at car game than getting a girl to have me over at her place. But I would prefer her place so we can realy go at it, and I can make her remember me for certain (if you know what i mean)
Because we kissed I feel like I should approach this date like a second date. Becuase of this I wonder if she will be putting me in the boyfriend catagory and put up a ton of resistence. The kiss worries me. One the one hand it got her hooked for a date, on the other it has created the potential for strong resistence.
One thing I learned about her the other night is that she wants me to lead but also likes feeling like she has room for decisions. Can't be too passive with her and can't be too pushy. Really have to walk the line with her. I get a strong feeling that she is obtainable, but I really have to play my cards right with this one. I have always felt like there has been a connection between us, and I was right. She was playing it hard to get. Now she is receptive, but it would be dangerous to assume the cat is in the bag. I do assume attraction, but I also have to make the right moves. I can tell she will test hard.
Scenario 1: pick her up at her place. Play things lightly at first. Only a kiss on the cheek when greeting, not on the lips. Take the lead but keep her guessing.She is the adventureous type, and I know a great sunset walk we will go on. Its about 45 minuets. Create moments that seem like they could be a kiss but then back off. Basical build the tension and get her wondering if it will go down. Save the kiss for when we are at her place, but still be physical and flirty. Then suggest we pick up some diner and have it at her place.
Downside is that she may boyfriend catagory me by the time we are at her place.
Scenario 2: Same date plan as 2 but this time I go physical hard from the get go. Act as if we have not only already kissed, but already had sex. When I pick her up go for a steamy kiss but break it off right before she has to the chance to. During the walk spin her around and into my arms and breath in her ear, then keep moving.
Downside is she may have serious slut resitance and not want to go back to her place
Scenario 3 is the same as 1 but instead of trying to get her back to her place I go car seduction. This makes it so she doesn't really have enough time to boyfiend zone me.
Downside is I cannot give her the sex I can fully give her in a bed to keep her hooked.
Scenario
Any thoughts?
