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[mandrew]

Hi. I just want to introduce myself and ask a question to this board.

I have been gaming almost now for two years here in sunny California. I first started implementing the London day game model as taught by coaches like Tom Torero and Nick Krauser. Their model includes running up to give and doing compliment/tease to open.... then assumption stack..then vide....periodically spike...and close strong.

The first year of game I got five back to back lays. The second year I had a very personal set back in the beginning that made it difficult for me to get out and game with the right positive mindset. Now my lays are infrequent at best. In my first year I was totally to the sexual guy at the end. This year I have been more nice. I'm trying to find a middle here be too much of one guy.

Anyways, while listening to a podcast I came across Chase Amante and I was curious about his products and concepts. From the my earliest stages of learning game I have been always interested in flipping the script and making the girl do more and exhibiting HB10 behavior.

I see his conversation product and I want to know what is like? I know of concepts like vacuuming, parroting and using emotive language. But what is different about his products? I don't want to spend money on concepts that really put me into the gay friend zone, or spend money on concepts I already know.

 

[mandrew]

Just read some free articles and see what you think. Read only articles by Chase and start from the oldest because that is the foundational content.

Honestly, chases method is to basically make yourself standout with dominant body language and voice tone and eye contact, and then "deep dive" to get the girl talking deeply about herself. You use a bit of cockiness and edginess and then just lay back and let the girl chase you once you get her opening up.

It's been deadly effective for me. Altho there are many more styles of game taught on this site if you dive into all of the authors.

Some of the best content on here is how to manage relationships and keep the girls you lay as well. Stuff that I haven't found anywhere else. I highly reccomend and I have been around the block in seduction material. I'm primarily a night gamer but his stuff is pretty universal here. It's very much based on "natural game" if that means anything to you.

You're in a good place here. Feel free to ask questions. This board is a tight knit community as well and a great resource.

Radeng

I have mixed feelings about natural game because I think you have to be unnatural before you can be your best natural self. Guys just starting game want to skip that part and be the normal unattractive guy they have always been. You need that shock out of your boring self first.

Yeah, I want to find out more about the "deep diving" concept, primarily. A year into my game I was getting frustrated with doing rapport because I felt it was a waste of my time. I'd meet a girl on the street one day and have a ten minute chat then a few days later get the girl on a coffee date and start escalating hard. Sometimes it would work, and sometimes it wouldn't. I simply couldn't be bothered with making any kind of rapport. That's simply where I am at where I need to focus more on being normal again instead of trying to bypass all the other things. Kind of frustrating when you know your better than you have ever been, but you just can't seem to lay girls. Intermediate hell.

You are a night gamer? I have tons of respect for night gamers because I can't do it. lol. It is rough.

I'll stick around the community for a bit and learn a little bit of his stuff. Try not to rock the boat too much.