Is there a way to use money game without being a sucker?

[Gsi2810]

I know I know, I have read, seen being a provider often leads to a girl taking advantage of you and not even putting up. If you guys say not to go down this road I won't but work has been good lately, money has been better but the progress game has been a bit lackluster/ stagnant, I pull here and there in nightgame but have never pulled in day game (probably because I go for the highest quality in day game, while in nightgame I compromise in quality department and just easier to mass approach).

Some background- I'm a brown guy gaming in EU.
Good things- I got low AA, good deepdiver and conversationalist who can make it man to woman.
Bad things- I struggle in building in compliance, making girls move (not that I don't try when I pull those girls are compliant and do move with me)

I think building compliance and displaying leadership is crucial to sex so I do have some compliance testing routines (verbals or show me this or that). I don't want to be that guy who pays for expensive lunches and the hot girl fucks a random dude... but I don't mind being the guy who pays for expensive lunches and the hot girl puts out.

 

[Police dog]

Do you actually have enough money to do money game to begin with? Paying for expensive lunches is not money game

 

[Chase]

@Gsi2810,

How fancy are we talking? Caviar, aged bottles of wine, chandeliers on the riverfront, and a $1200 bill?

Otherwise it sounds like you're saying "take girls to a nice restaurant, just like every other guy who isn't totally broke is doing"...

Chase

 

[Gsi2810]

Alright gentlemen let's cook with numbers.

According to numbeo.com the average income after tax in Budapest (my main city of game) is 1000 Euros per month. I'm doing around 4.5-5X of this which is not great as per American standards but surely heavy as per East Europe levels. Also another stat I look at is percentage of millionaires in adult population (In America it's 9% in Hungary it's 0.4% so money carries more weight here).

Of course all the above data is limited by willingness to spend I really don't want to dedicate more than 1000 Euros a month to game that can get the occasional caviar and fine wines haha, is that enough for the 9s and 10's probably not but I'm looking for more consistency. I pull 6s and 7's every 2-3 weeks from instant night game. All of these are tourists so it's very fly by night and I never see them again. The locals I pull very very rarely and overall difficult for me. I would like it to be weekly or even shorter I don't mind the 6's and 7's.

 

[Topg]

I don't think you understand the question you're asking.

If you are just paying for dinner, that's not money game. Any guy and his dad can do that. Flying a supermodel out to a hotel in your city, who has never met you is closer to money game but then if she doesn't put out that makes you a sucker. It's possible to do this without paying for her flight or hotel bookings, but that requires even tighter game and a cool as fuck Instagram. Just throwing money at girls is not game, it's prostitution.

 

[Skills]

I don't think you understand the question you're asking.

If you are just paying for dinner, that's not money game. Any guy and his dad can do that. Flying a supermodel out to a hotel in your city, who has never met you is closer to money game but then if she doesn't put out that makes you a sucker. It's possible to do this without paying for her flight or hotel bookings, but that requires even tighter game and a cool as fuck Instagram. Just throwing money at girls is not game, it's prostitution.

Yes op you are confused in your question wording... I also can tell you that the dating strategy has nothing to do with money...

Taking women to a restaurant on a first date put to much pressure on the girl and can be translated as manipulation... here is David d Angelo:

"MISTAKE #4: Trying to "Buy" Her Affection with Food and Gifts​

How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?

If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT.

Well guess what?

It's only NATURAL when this happens...

That's right, I said NATURAL.

When you do these things, you send a clear message:

"I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".

Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION."

He is talking me to a restaurant to buy sex..is not optimal my point there are seduction implications that have nothing to do with money. People confuse the lover provider stuff in the community and has been bastardized and taking out of context what Teevester was trying to point out.. I ever had an argument with a tribal elder about this I was surprised, people don't get the nuances and context...so I did an article

Date Plans - The lover provider balance keep it ambiguous - troubleshooting

So guys i get many pms, and i see posts about lover provider a lot, people misunderstand the whole thing, this is one of the topics people don't get due to nuances. Ok the lover provider stuff has been discussed to death, and yes it is important, super important..... But as always there are...

www.skilledseducer.com

 

[rockstar]

Yeah, seconding that this is not a particularly special/powerful strategy.

Really, the upside to this if you do it right is: you give off the image of someone who is successful and has his life together (though not in any unique way). And you need to be really nonchalant about it - the frame should be "I go to nice places and like nice things" not "I'm doing something nice for you".

If you really want to spend on seduction, you're probably better off buying tickets to things like fancy galas and pool parties with hot girls there, or getting a roomy pad with great logistics and hosting things like pre-gaming and afterparties.

 

[Police dog]

Alright gentlemen let's cook with numbers.

According to numbeo.com the average income after tax in Budapest (my main city of game) is 1000 Euros per month. I'm doing around 4.5-5X of this which is not great as per American standards but surely heavy as per East Europe levels. Also another stat I look at is percentage of millionaires in adult population (In America it's 9% in Hungary it's 0.4% so money carries more weight here).

Now we are talking!
idk much about Budapest but if its similar to russia/ukraine, here is what I would do:
flash you are doing great, get some pre owned German car, you can get 5-8 year old MB C class for like 12k or so, have an active inst, go to higher end places in your city, get good photos and jump into online dating
pray on low income young girls
target girls with "traditional" mindset which means girls looking for a provider, piss in their ears how you dream about having a strong family to provide for etc and just use them for as long as you want, they will cling on you anyway

you don’t even have to spend much money on these girls, just show you have it!
women in that part of the world will do anything you want for a guy who makes 5k euros per month

 

[Gsi2810]

Interesting responses folks, I completely agree money has very less to do with success with women. Whenever I have pulled in night game, there have been only couple of cheap drinks, kebabs on the way to my place, cheap wine at home...this is peanuts monetarily the only problem is it happens once in 2-3 weeks! I really could use more regular sex, even LTR I was just thinking that maybe fancy dining and shopping may increase some odds for me.

So I'm gonna pivot a bit... help me build some compliance in day game? At night I'm touching a bit more, take her to the bar, spin her have a bunch of options in day game it's very verbal and less physicality, I do try to move on high points but girls never bite.

@Police dog interesting advice, I feel Hungarians are quite cautious when it comes to non EU tourists, not going black pill here I have pulled Hungarians before just very less compared to French, Brazillians and other EU tourists.