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Is this form of persistence good to get results?

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Space Monkey
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I came upon information on using this form of persistence on a Pickup forum.

The whole idea behind this is to gaslight the girl or "anti-frame" as they say so that she gets reactive and starts chasing.
I am a bit skeptical about this because on first sight it comes across as obvious and desperate/butt-hurt on the guys part but there are results of this working (not clear whether it was the persistent that worked or the guy had more value than other guys she had met and thus worked).

Framing her as dating below average men if not complying.
"Didn't realize you are attracted to pussymen so far"
"You seem like someone who is used to dating subpar men. No offense"

Frame the girl as being shallow/racist
"Is it because I am ugly"
"Is it because I am Black/White/Asian/Indian/etc"

Frame the girl as having an antisocial quality
"If you are nervous/shy/inexperienced, I totally understand"
"You seemed confident but all that was an act, You are nervous/shy/inexperienced I know"
"I didn't take you for the flakey type"

If the girl protests double down on the accusation and until she gets reactive and takes up complying as a challenge to prove she doesn't have the antisocial quality.


What do you think of these tactics?
 

ulrich

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Maybe they could work if they are perfectly calibrated (good timing, proper voice delivery, remove some investment via body language), however these are somewhat nuclear options.

Pretty much like negs, you need to be prepared to reward the woman for compliance, leave if they don’t land and not overuse them.

If you are a newbie, you probably won’t be able to handle what comes next.
If you are a pro, you probably have much better tools at your disposal.
 
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