Date Plans Is venue change on dates a necessary step to success or just a good booster

[Witcher]

Hello everyone!

I'm currently working on making better dates template, my default date is the one outlined by one of the senior members TheTool in this thread . I am actually very comfortable running since it's simple, use only one venue, cheap and based on conversation, something I enjoy and got good at.

The problem is that I read a lot about the importance of "Venu Change" here in GC and in the whole pick'up community. So, I'm wondering if by having only one venue in my dates I'm not actually hindering my success. For the experienced daters here:

Is venue change necessary if we want dates that end in intimacy or a high chance for a second date? (When I say necessary I mean that if not done our chance of getting the good outcomes drop significantly).

Or venue, change is a very good optional move that will really increase the chances of having the dates ending with a good outcome (intimacy or second date).

Thank You!

 

[naturalmikey]

nothing is necessary. but venue changes make it easier. you could always get compliance in other ways. but without building a compliance ladder and then going for something high compliance (coming home with you) is not a very good strategy.

 

[Witcher]

nothing is necessary. but venue changes make it easier. you could always get compliance in other ways. but without building a compliance ladder and then going for something high compliance (coming home with you) is not a very good strategy.

Thanks for the clarification. What would be in your opinion the best alternative way to build compliance then? I rather prefer to stay and connect like in the tool date template and enjoy the girl's presence than playing the tourist from venue to venue.

 

[Fuck This]

See the hardest thing is to move a girl to a sex location so the venue change just reduces the sensitivity to going some where with you.

You say the view at Broadway Bar is killer and it is, you have proven you are trustworthy. She feels more at ease going to your house.

It also gives the impression of multiple experiences with you so she feels more at ease. It also lets you just how compliant she is.

 

[Witcher]

I see, so venu change is the best way to achieve those things. What would be an alternative method?

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

@Witcher dude! If you can't do a venue change like you would in the 3 bounce method or even reducing it to 2 bounces the alternative is to move. Within the same venue, move. If you can go from standing at the bar to sitting down in a secluded spot its 2 separate memories for the girl and she will feel like you have done more together than staying static with the same scenery. This will also build compliance. If a girl won't move somewhere with you then she won't change venue. If she won't change venue she wouldn't go home with you.

Think of it as an escalation ladder, if the venue is to small and moving around it is stupid or impossible (crowded bar and you have a nice secluded spot anyway) look to build compliance in other ways. Debatably you can also use touch here, if your touch is good and rewarding you can build your touch up, the more compliant she is to touch the stronger connection she feels and this creates a better bond with her before you seal the deal.