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Fan7as7icMrFox

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Hey Guys!

Over the last few weeks I've been focusing more time on going out and meeting women, I did some brief work for a charity, approaching people on the street and in 2 days, all AA and fear of rejection had vanished (as a "chugger" you're constantly blanked, abused and avoided, no problem, I'd rather not spend my time talking with someone who isn't willing to donate and approach 30 others until I find one that is), step one complete :)

Now the numbers have been pilling up, primarily from short number close situations, (usually less than 5 minutes, quite a few in under 1 "I noticed you over here and just had to tell you, you're pretty cute, I'd love to get to know you a little better but I'm late for an appointment, we should meet for coffee later this week and get to know each other, sound fun?" That's worked pretty well thus far)

Problem I'm having now is this, I get the number, have a little text banter, qualifying and deep rapport (usually in around 10 rallies or less) Then arrange a meet, usually as local to my place as possible, its when I get there I struggle, I greet, get touch in early get past the small talk onto topics I can dive, but all this time it just feels like a friendly conversation, there are no undertones, no energy behind the conversation, very little in the way of chase framing or tension of any description, which leads me onto my question..

How do I create that chemistry with these women? how do I get the interaction from friendly, platonic plateaus into the humid, steamy rain forest of a flirtatious conversation bursting with sexual tension, playfulness and flirtation?

have any of you gents hit a similar sticking point and are able to throw some advice my way, or perhaps point me in the direction of an article on here that highlights this area and can give me advice on how to get past this? I'm getting the impression that my fundamentals are pretty good, hence the quick closes, but my "Vibe" could use some work..

I've yet to get a single LR since moving to London and reading through this material. I've not been laid since the beginning of February which, for a guy who has spent the the last 3 years in a long term relationship and was sleeping with 2 women within a week of that failing and has been getting it at least 4 hrs a night 3 nights a week for almost 4 years, feels like an eternity!

I appreciate the help chaps :D
 

ocantu1987

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Do you try breaking the touch barrier? I think that can help out a lot, also after coffee invite the girl for a drink to a local bar for an alcoholic drink to loosen her up a bit, but break the touch barrier.
 

Fan7as7icMrFox

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ocantu1987 said:
Do you try breaking the touch barrier? I think that can help out a lot, also after coffee invite the girl for a drink to a local bar for an alcoholic drink to loosen her up a bit, but break the touch barrier.

Good point, looking back on it now, I start of with the greet (usually a handshake without actually shaking, left hand on elbow or shoulder and go for the cheek to cheek fake kiss type thing, then straight after the greet, lead with my hand on the small of the back for around 10 seconds (slightly less sometimes) and get the protective touch in pretty well as were moving, BUT!! I've noticed looking back on it now after reading your comment, once we're stationary (at a table in a coffee shop, sat opposite each other) all touch ceases and I focus intently on eye contact and getting her carrying the weight of the conversation...

I guess it'll all come down to experience, I'm having far more fun than I thought I would, just getting a little annoyed with the sexual frustration, night game isn't my thing, I can't drink due to a bike accident a few years back and the logistics for a good bar around here are shocking, so the usual way for a ONS isn't really an option. there's a run down old pub next door to my house but it's usually dead, so getting any drink in prior to getting her home isn't easy, I've just noticed I make it harder for myself too by getting them to drive to me (they've the whole "but I'm driving" reply to any suggestion of a second drink) and I set my meets up too early in the day, usually around 1pm ish. Part of me would rather get them home and in bed without any drink at all for a quick fling but I can see how that's just making things harder for myself.
 
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