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Seppuku

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Online meet and first date
I met this 32 years old girl in Badoo on Apr. 11th. The beginning of the chat was a little turbulent: she mentioned about massage as a part time job (something I've heard so often here, massage meaning prostitution) and I answered that I'm not into professional services. When she understands I mean hookers, she starts a strongly defensive tone, saying she means actual massage for ladies, not "body massage". I excuse myself and explain that because so many prostitutes here, but she goes on with the "I'm not like this" drama. After that it's me who takes an offended tone "I've never been into hookers and not thinking of starting now" etc... and now she's the one chasing. The interaction normalizes after that and we quickly setup a date the following evening. In the meantime we switch to whatsapp and she sends a quite exy picture of herself with a decollete making no mystery of her two large round boobs.

However the next day when I see her, she looks a bit older than her pics, she's dressed in a little austere fashion, and something about her feels "low value". Although she's cute and decent (some sexy shapes) my first reaction about her is "no". OK I take her on the date as agreed, but I'm reserved, don't overdo, and give a closed body language. She's chasing now, and she's doing the deep diving with me - lol. When I poll her she says she doesn't like bars and night clubs, and during our dinner refers several times to my place... Which I decode as "I don't want to go to bar, we would be better at your place". This makes me hesitate, it would be easy... But no. Dinner finished, I take the "I don't like bar" argument as an excuse to shorten the date "I had been thinking of taking you to a nice bar", then drive her home. She also mentioned that she might be called for a massage tonight, double excuse. So, 1h30 after our first meeting face to face, I drop her back home.

Setting up the second date - interesting tests convos
After that, there was little interaction, until Thursday, Apr 21st, when she pops out of the blue in my Whatsapp.

This time, I don't have the right to ignore this!

I start to bait her with the upcoming weekend. She starts teasing me with the idea of massage "ask your housemaid to do massage for you" "My housemaid is not doing massage. You know anybody? ;-)". I then tell her that I'm planning to cook some lamb stew tonight. I get into a very interesting convo in which she throws me many tests.

11:39 Me: Lamb meat is particular. I like lamb
11:39 Her: You like it
11:39 Me: Yes. Do you?
11:39 Her: Yes. I love it
11:39 Her: You like massage?
11:39 Me: Would you come for dinner? Or cook with me
11:40 Her: Cook. No problem
11:40 Me: OK why not. Good idea
11:41 Her: But it's proper massage, not body massage
11:41 Me: Yes I know
11:41 Me: I'm inviting you for cooking and dinner this evening [she keeps bringing massage so I had to clarify]
Her need for ASD rationalization kicks in:
11:42 Her: Only cooking and dinner? Nothing else?
11:42 Me: You want a detail plan :)
11:42 Her: I just want to know
11:43 Me: I take things as they come
11:43 Her: Who?
11:43 Me: I just say I'm easy going
11:44 Her: Ok. Good
11:45 Me: Ok, so come over, we cook together. I can come 7pm to take you same place
I now get a series of tests, meant at testing my resolve:
11:47 Her: Where we go? Same hotel?
11:47 Me: Oh sorry I thought I was clear
11:47 Her: Oh sorry. Now it's clear. Yes
11:48 Me: OK for 7pm?
11:48 Her: Ok
Bringing in her cousin:
11:49 Her: Can I bring my cousin?
11:50 Me: You're not comfortable to be alone with me :)
11:50 Her: Just asking
11:50 Me: Nicer if you and me only I think
11:50 Her: Ok. Why?
11:51 Me: Your cousin will be bored
11:51 Her: Hahaha she loves to drink
11:51 Me: Ok. Bring along your cousin, it's fine [This is my bet that she doesn't actually mean it]
11:52 Her: Maybe you don't like
11:52 Me: I told you, nicer if you and me. But I would understand if you don't feel comfortable
11:53 Her: Can ask why you want to be you and me?
11:55 Me: No you can't :)
11:55 Her: Hahaha
Massage topic is back. She frames it as business. I don't give in:
11:55 Her: I know you want me to do massage right?
11:56 Me: Hey I was never asking for massage :)
11:56 Her: Ok. But you like it the good massage
11:56 Me: But if you do it well, why not
11:57 Her: No problem but you will pay me
11:57 Me: Ah so it's business
11:57 Her: Yes
11:57 Me: No I'm not paying for massage
11:57 Her: Hahaha
11:57 Me: I invite you for free. To eat food. Not asking money. So no massage.
11:58 Her: I'm not asking your money
11:58 Me: Ok
Wrapping up:
11:59 Me: Let's clarify. I'm inviting you for cooking and dinner
12:00 Me: I invite you only, but if you're not comfortable and want to bring your cousin, please bring her [This is meant to help with the ASD]
12:01 Her: Ok. I'm comfortable
12:01 Me: Good. I come 7pm same place where I dropped you
At my home
I take her at her place at 7 and bring her home. As expected she didn't bring her cousin. Last time I barely touched her, so I have to break the physical wall quickly. Out of the car, I take her hand and lead her to the elevators. I can't help noticing that she left her top shirt buttons, unbuttoned, and discreetly flashing sexy bra and a very nice pair of large boobs.

We take a look at the view, I take the chance for more incidental touching. She helps me with cutting the veggies, and while it's cooking I take her to my sofa and start building the physical comfort. We chat many things, whatever, and I gradually increase my physical presence. Have her hand in mine. She complies, then later break rapport, I take her hand back. Start playing with her hair, undo her long braid. Take her closer to me. Have my hand wander over her shoulders.

Dinner served, we eat. Good, done. In the sofa, in my arms, time for action. I approach my lips from hers, smile, teasing her for the kiss, but plant a kiss on her neck instead. Tease her more, have a longer, soft kiss on her neck. Slooow. Reaction is good. Quick kiss on the lips, kiss on the other side of the neck. Longer kiss. I undo a button on her shirt. Wander my kiss a little more down towards her breasts. I put her hand under my shirt and she starts caressing my skin (the girls love it, but they're sometimes shy to take the initiative so you have to "autorize" her this way). I unbutton one more and venture a hand on her boob. OMG it is massive, bigger than what I thought. It's not the bra! Soon I'm sucking her nipples and she likes it. But now she wants to go to toilets.

Weak "in principle" LMR and lay
When she's out, she says "I want to go. Can you send me home?" I stand up, come to her, take her by the hand, and gently take her back on the sofa. "So you're not comfortable with me?". But when she's on the sofa with me, she changes the stance. "I'm comfortable". That's again her ASD, she puts a token resistance to clear herself, even if she's horny as fuck. We're back in business. This time I put her hand on my dick and she starts to rub it through the trousers. I finish removing her shirt. In fact she has two amazing large boobs, very firm. Can't stop sucking them. Bra off, trousers off. A little to much belly fat (like so many people here in Qatar - the largest obesity rate in the world) but apart from that she has a very sexy body, nice shapey ass, large firm boobs, long black her going down her butt. I'm soon in underwear only. She grabs my dick. I take her to my bedroom, I light a candle, drop underwears, suck again her nice boobs then go down on her, lick her clit and she loves it. Condom on, I take her, and she's very vocal. Later I take her a second time, then drive her home.

My take
Very interesting. She was chasing me, horny as fuck from the beginning (with all her references at massage), but with a lot of ASD. She wanted to be taken but required a lot of rationalization. I gave her what she was craving for, good sex with all the responsibility on me. The way she dressed didn't give her justice, hence my initial negative reaction, but it eventually turned out a pretty exciting and sexy interaction. Although she's not as pretty as Ginger (my lay two days ago :)) she's actually more sexy and the sex was much better. I'm ok to see her more, but I suspect, however, that she's LSE/HD (Low Self Esteem, High Sex Drive). This would mean problems down the road. Let's see.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

Seppuku

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More text convos and tests - second fuckdate

There has been more exchanges and developments since this LR. I want to post it here because it's interesting.

Initial exchange: "I'm a good girl looking for serious relationships"
later exchange: "My birthday coming and I will spend it alone... How about I cook for you? Oh yes more convenient at your place"
a week after our first sex, second fuckdate.

Sat 23rd - the good girl strikes back

On the day right after our night (Friday - a day off here) she makes a timid attempt at getting invited to my place but I defuse it. She asks about Saturday, but I already have plans (fucking my regular Abby, plus date with miss M).

On Saturday evening after unsuccessfully trying to get me on Whatsapp all day, she texts late at night:
Her: How is your life going on, my friend Seppuku?
Me: Good evening
Her: How's your searching?
Me: Searching?
Her: You found some girlfriends? Hahaha. Don't worry I'm not angry
Me: [wink emoji] Ok, better if you're cool
Her: I'm not your girlfirend, and you're not my boyfriend.
Me: OK
Her: I'm looking for serious relationship only, not play for sex only
Me: I think life is too short to be too serious about it
Her: I know you're not looking for serious relationship
Me: Please don't be mad at me. Just try to understand a little my side of things.
Her: I'm your friend. No worries. I understand.
Me: You're looking for what I already got 19 years ago. I'm beyond and past that.
Her: I know. I'm looking for a boyfriend, and not changing my boyfriend every time.
Me: In all honesty, Thursday evening was very nice.
Her: Forget. No need to say that. The pictures I sent you, you can delete them.
Me: Ok. I just deleted all.
Her: OK. I'm still your friend. I know all men in Badoo are all crazy, just looking for a girl to have sex.
Me: There is no such thing as friends between a man and a woman, but thank you
Her: I deleted yours too. Good night, my friend Seppuku. No hard feelings.
Me: Good night
Sounds like this:
I'm a good girl. I only look for serious relationships. Forget these sexy pics hinting at my big boobs, I'm a good girl. You're a player. We're friends.

On my side, I think I did not break my frame, and didn't give in to the friends frame.

Sunday 24th - Discreetly inviting herself at my place

On Sunday evening, she's back to me, and the tone is much more playful and relaxed:
Her: How are you my friend Seppuku?
Me: Hey Jennifer :)
Her: Thanks for the time you spent with me
Me: My pleasure... so to speak ;-)
Her: OK
Me: I appreciated. Good time
Her: You're welcome. Hahaha
Me: I'm 46. Life is too short to be taken too seriously.
Her: This is my advice to you, you need to take care of your choice
Me: What choice?
Her: Who you want to have with you, in good times, and in dessert. Hahaha [she refers to a joke I made on Thursday, the sex session being the dessert after the main course]
Me: It's a lonely business to be a man
Her: You can have dessert if you want
Me: Thank you :) Don't judge me please
Her: Nope. Nobody can judge anyone. I understand your situation. You're free to be happy

[...]
Now she will subtly introduce the topic:
Her: Thursday I'm going to enjoy myself
Me: Why?
Her: My birthday. Just me and myself
Me: I don't believe you ;-) You have your cousin [she shares a flat with her cousin]
Her: She has a date on Thursday
Me: You're sad of spending your birthday alone
Her: Just stay at home and sleep
Me: [I relate with a similar story of a lonely birthday, not so long ago]
Her: On my birthday, I want to drink [I start seeing her coming my way now lol. She normally doesn't drink alcohol]
Me: Oh. Hahaha. You have alcohol at home? [in Qatar you cannot possess alcohol unless you have a special license]
Her: No, I'm looking for that. I'm not sure
Me: You can drink apple juice ;-)
Her: Hahaha. True
Me: But you didn't like the taste of wine [I made her try when she was at my home]
Her: Red wine is OK, it's not too strong, like vodka [she is litterally repeating my own words from our night]
And now, here we go:
Her: Maybe I will cook. You want to try?
Me: Try what? Alcohol? Or your cooking?
Her: Maybe I will cook beef. Or prawns. You want?
Me: Are you inviting me to join your birthday?
Her: Hmmmm why not?
Me: [taking care of her social reputation] Yes why not. Your place? People will see me.
Her: If I invite you, where do you want to go! Hahaha
Me: You're welcome to cook in my kitchen if you bring the ingredients. [LOL]
Her: Thanks for the offer. Just meet, and prawns [OF COURSE]

[...]
The rest is logistics. I am excited that I will get to fuck again this exciting pair of humongous tits. I will get to know that her cousin is spending the night with her BF on Thursday and likely doesn't want to stay alone while her cousin is getting fucked hard. Thanks, cousin ;-)

Tursday 28th - second fuckdate

I take her at her place and bring her home. We reach at about 8:30pm. She wants to handle things alone in the kitchen, so I decide not to be too much over her too quickly, leave her alone in the kitchen and just chill on the sofa. The dinner is served and yes, she's a good cook. It's filipino food and it's a welcome change to my usual french cuisine. We're done eating and now sitting side by side on my sofa. I slowly start the escalation but she initially gives resistance. I have to work it out slowly, slowly. It will take me maybe 45 minutes to finally bring her to my bed and get her clothes off. It's almost starting from scratch again. But she eventually submits, and this time we have several hours of sex. We did it three times, with some breaks, and she gave finally gave me her long advertised body massage. We also got to talk. She insists in asking how many new girls I bring in this bed each week. After avoiding the question for some time, I finally tell her. She's cool about it. I drive her back home at 2am.

She is not as pretty as some of my former girls, Ginger, Ina, Olivia... but she has a very sexy body, and the sex is good. She's cool, king and open minded. Interesting. It's not necessarily the prettiest girls that make the best sexual partners.
 
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