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Hey guys,
It's a learning process but recently I observed some progress. I am reaching a point where I start to see a process. It goes like this:
1. Get an online match on Badoo, and either wait for her to contact me (best) or engage her. No need to waste time on non matches.
2. Chat her and deep dive until I reach a hook point (she starts asking questions about me). I usually plant the idea of dating very early on with questions such as "have you ever dated a 40+ guy?". It becomes the background frame and sets further interaction in the right direction
3. Setup a date. I usually setup the date at the Intercontinental hotel which is a 5 minute walk from my home. There is a buffet restaurant and a great bar at 55th floor called the Strata bar with superb city view. If I pick her up at home I park my car in my underground parking and explain that it's easier to park there and just walk.
4. During the date, deep dive, establish comfort, and escalate touch.
5. Bring her back to the car. If I can pull it off, bring her home (we're already there!), if not, go for the kiss.
Now the part I am still learning is 5. Up to now I haven't had confidence enough to do it in date 1, but I am hoping to get there. Now, the report.
Joanne is a 30 year old Filipina, very pretty with long black hair, nice smile, curvy shapes and an impressive pair of boobs. Here it is Qatar and there is a very large Filipino community, so very naturally they make up most of the dating market. She's a Badoo match and it's me who initiate the chat. I ask her if she's dated a western guy before and she says yes and immediately mentions that she's open for a date. I do not immediately ask her out and continue some deep diving, then leave her in expectation. Later in the week I text her "My cold is getting better; how about going out on Sunday evening?" and it's an immediate excited yes. We switch to Viber messaging, much more convenient, plus I have now her phone number.
Date 1.
My date is super pretty and sexy. She has nicely packaged her impressive boobs in a sexy décolleté, and wears a fitting trousers showing nice womanly shapes. She gets in the car and I can tell she's hyper excited as she speaks all the time. From times to times I force myself into the conversation in order to keep control of the topics but she does most of the talking with very little help from me. We arrive at my building and I park in my underground parking lot. As soon as we get out of the car I ask for her hand in mine and she complies. I also touch her on the small of her back when needed. We walk to the intercontinental hotel (very close) and reach the buffet. The date is relaxed. I get her to talk about her dating life and she tells me about the guy she loved and left her for another and I relate to her by showing compassion. Towards the end of the dinner I seat next to her and take her hand in mine as we share the fruits. We now head for the Strata bar at 55th floor. In the elevator I put my arm around her waist. The bar is very quiet, we have a nice seat with city view. We order a glass of wine. I take her hand again and gently caress it. She remarks my hand is very soft "Maybe you're gay!" she jokes. I make a sexy smile and remark that there is an easy way to know. As we continue to speak (she still does most of the talking) she starts playing with her long hair. She curls it and put it on her décolleté, hiding her half bare breasts, or most likely trying to attract my attention on it. I caress her hair and smell it, then pull it back, revealing the décolleté again, then caress her cheeks. All this while still continuing our casual talk. She asks if I am open for a relationship. I say I'm taking things easy. I start to build up the notion that I can only meet her once a week, to which she says it's ok
well, we'll see about this. In the elevator I try to take her in my arms for the kiss but she resists. I get the kiss on forehead. It's ok, I take her hand in mine, and we go for a short walk. In the street she leaves her hand in mine. It's now winter and there is a chilly 20C with small wind. It's cold for her half naked boobs lol so we change course and head for my car. I don't feel like trying to first date bedding. When we reach my car again I take her in my arms and try the kiss, she still resists. "There are cameras!". "Alright I am not forcing anyone to do anything they don't want". I drive her back. In the car I now have my hand on her thigh that I keep caressing as I drive. She says she enjoyed herself, I say we keep in touch. I go for a compliment "My date was very beautiful tonight! The pleasure was mine!" When we arrive, before she leaves the car I go for the kiss and finally get it. Well woman's job is to resist, and man's job to persist. After I reach home, she initiates the first texting. I am in.
Date 2.
I barely texted her in the next three days because I was busy fucking my very horny girlfriend... But she knows I'm a single dad with kids so we did not have a drama. On Wednesday I call her and we arrange the details of the next date, coming Saturday. We'll have an early cinema (7pm) then a quick dinner then drinks. Now I am planning to try step 5 this time... although I am without a sofa in the living room as I am expecting a new one delivered coming Sunday. I pick her up and we're late, but we finally reach at 7:15. I park the car near my home, we go for the cinema (a 5 minutes walk also). Fortunately it is still possible to enter the room. The movie is nice, we hold hands and arms all the time. At some point I am caressing her legs... and she kindly silently ask me to stop. I return to caressing hands. After the movie we arrive at the restaurant. There is a little unease. I work it out with smiles and deep diving, and soon she opens up and becomes talkative again. We take pictures of both of us, and we finish our dinner. We walk out for a drink. I suggest her "Actually I have a bottle of wine at home... But we would have to sit on the carpet!" She knows I don't have a sofa now and expect a new one the next day. Well, she prefers the Strata bar. My attempt at bringing her home was weak, true, but I hope I have planted the idea to make it easier next time. At the bar, while we have a wine, I take the chance to caress her more, legs, arms, hair, her head, her neck, I also ask her to hold my gaze while I smile at her. When she shows me videos on her youtube phone, I take the chance to put my arm around her and kiss her neck. In the elevator, I take her in my arms but I can still feel her resistance. On the way back, she goes again telling stories of guys who wants a quick sex, to whom she responds against "just for fun" and explain all what she could be doing if she "just wanted to have sex"... I tell her that fun is a very important part of any relationship, and a healthy sexual relationship is important too. She challenge me again "Maybe you're gay" I answer: "And you're a ladyboy" and I joke "the gay and the ladyboy lol". Before I drop her home, I kiss her. We agree on meeting again on Wednesday evening.
Date 3.
The Wednesday date was cancelled last minute due to some external circumstances, instead we meet on Saturday. I take her home at 7:50 and she's dressed in a black sexy outfit making no mystery of her very nice, large breasts. Again the date goes well, she gives me hand by herself and let me touch her pretty much randomly. I take her at the Grand Hyatt and we have a Thai restaurant. After dinner we walk around in the (dark) garden of the Grand Hyatt, along the pool and the beach. We walk back to the car and I tell her we're having a drink. I drive her to my home, park in the basement parking as usual, and since it's the third time she's comfortable. Then instead of walking to the Strata Bar I take her to my apartment. When we reach the first floor she realizes it's not the way to the Strata and I tell her I'm going to offer her some wine. She sits in the sofa. I open a bottle of wine then put a movie and sits next to her. We cheers. Soon my arm is around her and she puts her head on my shoulder. I start caressing her hair then kiss her hair and forehead. We're holding hands. I caress her legs then soon touch her all over her body and demand a kiss. She starts asking to return home. "I will drive you home, no worries". Finally after I had my hands all over her body and went for the kiss many times, and she answers with a timid kiss. "Is that a woman kiss?" "But if I give you that, you will become horny!" I am all over her, I touch her legs, her hips, her (large) tits. "See, you already horny!" "I am not! I still have a good control over myself! Maybe you're afraid YOU will become horny!" etc... Now, she asks about going home with more insistence and become nervous. I am not forcing anyone into this after all. Finally I give up, and I drive her back home.
How I felt it. She was interested, but very much on the defensive since day one, which made me hesitant until date 3. In retrospect there was likely a frame battle in which she tried to push the boyfriend frame, and I partly gave in by delaying action.
Guys your feedback is welcome.
It's a learning process but recently I observed some progress. I am reaching a point where I start to see a process. It goes like this:
1. Get an online match on Badoo, and either wait for her to contact me (best) or engage her. No need to waste time on non matches.
2. Chat her and deep dive until I reach a hook point (she starts asking questions about me). I usually plant the idea of dating very early on with questions such as "have you ever dated a 40+ guy?". It becomes the background frame and sets further interaction in the right direction
3. Setup a date. I usually setup the date at the Intercontinental hotel which is a 5 minute walk from my home. There is a buffet restaurant and a great bar at 55th floor called the Strata bar with superb city view. If I pick her up at home I park my car in my underground parking and explain that it's easier to park there and just walk.
4. During the date, deep dive, establish comfort, and escalate touch.
5. Bring her back to the car. If I can pull it off, bring her home (we're already there!), if not, go for the kiss.
Now the part I am still learning is 5. Up to now I haven't had confidence enough to do it in date 1, but I am hoping to get there. Now, the report.
Joanne is a 30 year old Filipina, very pretty with long black hair, nice smile, curvy shapes and an impressive pair of boobs. Here it is Qatar and there is a very large Filipino community, so very naturally they make up most of the dating market. She's a Badoo match and it's me who initiate the chat. I ask her if she's dated a western guy before and she says yes and immediately mentions that she's open for a date. I do not immediately ask her out and continue some deep diving, then leave her in expectation. Later in the week I text her "My cold is getting better; how about going out on Sunday evening?" and it's an immediate excited yes. We switch to Viber messaging, much more convenient, plus I have now her phone number.
Date 1.
My date is super pretty and sexy. She has nicely packaged her impressive boobs in a sexy décolleté, and wears a fitting trousers showing nice womanly shapes. She gets in the car and I can tell she's hyper excited as she speaks all the time. From times to times I force myself into the conversation in order to keep control of the topics but she does most of the talking with very little help from me. We arrive at my building and I park in my underground parking lot. As soon as we get out of the car I ask for her hand in mine and she complies. I also touch her on the small of her back when needed. We walk to the intercontinental hotel (very close) and reach the buffet. The date is relaxed. I get her to talk about her dating life and she tells me about the guy she loved and left her for another and I relate to her by showing compassion. Towards the end of the dinner I seat next to her and take her hand in mine as we share the fruits. We now head for the Strata bar at 55th floor. In the elevator I put my arm around her waist. The bar is very quiet, we have a nice seat with city view. We order a glass of wine. I take her hand again and gently caress it. She remarks my hand is very soft "Maybe you're gay!" she jokes. I make a sexy smile and remark that there is an easy way to know. As we continue to speak (she still does most of the talking) she starts playing with her long hair. She curls it and put it on her décolleté, hiding her half bare breasts, or most likely trying to attract my attention on it. I caress her hair and smell it, then pull it back, revealing the décolleté again, then caress her cheeks. All this while still continuing our casual talk. She asks if I am open for a relationship. I say I'm taking things easy. I start to build up the notion that I can only meet her once a week, to which she says it's ok
well, we'll see about this. In the elevator I try to take her in my arms for the kiss but she resists. I get the kiss on forehead. It's ok, I take her hand in mine, and we go for a short walk. In the street she leaves her hand in mine. It's now winter and there is a chilly 20C with small wind. It's cold for her half naked boobs lol so we change course and head for my car. I don't feel like trying to first date bedding. When we reach my car again I take her in my arms and try the kiss, she still resists. "There are cameras!". "Alright I am not forcing anyone to do anything they don't want". I drive her back. In the car I now have my hand on her thigh that I keep caressing as I drive. She says she enjoyed herself, I say we keep in touch. I go for a compliment "My date was very beautiful tonight! The pleasure was mine!" When we arrive, before she leaves the car I go for the kiss and finally get it. Well woman's job is to resist, and man's job to persist. After I reach home, she initiates the first texting. I am in.Date 2.
I barely texted her in the next three days because I was busy fucking my very horny girlfriend... But she knows I'm a single dad with kids so we did not have a drama. On Wednesday I call her and we arrange the details of the next date, coming Saturday. We'll have an early cinema (7pm) then a quick dinner then drinks. Now I am planning to try step 5 this time... although I am without a sofa in the living room as I am expecting a new one delivered coming Sunday. I pick her up and we're late, but we finally reach at 7:15. I park the car near my home, we go for the cinema (a 5 minutes walk also). Fortunately it is still possible to enter the room. The movie is nice, we hold hands and arms all the time. At some point I am caressing her legs... and she kindly silently ask me to stop. I return to caressing hands. After the movie we arrive at the restaurant. There is a little unease. I work it out with smiles and deep diving, and soon she opens up and becomes talkative again. We take pictures of both of us, and we finish our dinner. We walk out for a drink. I suggest her "Actually I have a bottle of wine at home... But we would have to sit on the carpet!" She knows I don't have a sofa now and expect a new one the next day. Well, she prefers the Strata bar. My attempt at bringing her home was weak, true, but I hope I have planted the idea to make it easier next time. At the bar, while we have a wine, I take the chance to caress her more, legs, arms, hair, her head, her neck, I also ask her to hold my gaze while I smile at her. When she shows me videos on her youtube phone, I take the chance to put my arm around her and kiss her neck. In the elevator, I take her in my arms but I can still feel her resistance. On the way back, she goes again telling stories of guys who wants a quick sex, to whom she responds against "just for fun" and explain all what she could be doing if she "just wanted to have sex"... I tell her that fun is a very important part of any relationship, and a healthy sexual relationship is important too. She challenge me again "Maybe you're gay" I answer: "And you're a ladyboy" and I joke "the gay and the ladyboy lol". Before I drop her home, I kiss her. We agree on meeting again on Wednesday evening.
Date 3.
The Wednesday date was cancelled last minute due to some external circumstances, instead we meet on Saturday. I take her home at 7:50 and she's dressed in a black sexy outfit making no mystery of her very nice, large breasts. Again the date goes well, she gives me hand by herself and let me touch her pretty much randomly. I take her at the Grand Hyatt and we have a Thai restaurant. After dinner we walk around in the (dark) garden of the Grand Hyatt, along the pool and the beach. We walk back to the car and I tell her we're having a drink. I drive her to my home, park in the basement parking as usual, and since it's the third time she's comfortable. Then instead of walking to the Strata Bar I take her to my apartment. When we reach the first floor she realizes it's not the way to the Strata and I tell her I'm going to offer her some wine. She sits in the sofa. I open a bottle of wine then put a movie and sits next to her. We cheers. Soon my arm is around her and she puts her head on my shoulder. I start caressing her hair then kiss her hair and forehead. We're holding hands. I caress her legs then soon touch her all over her body and demand a kiss. She starts asking to return home. "I will drive you home, no worries". Finally after I had my hands all over her body and went for the kiss many times, and she answers with a timid kiss. "Is that a woman kiss?" "But if I give you that, you will become horny!" I am all over her, I touch her legs, her hips, her (large) tits. "See, you already horny!" "I am not! I still have a good control over myself! Maybe you're afraid YOU will become horny!" etc... Now, she asks about going home with more insistence and become nervous. I am not forcing anyone into this after all. Finally I give up, and I drive her back home.
How I felt it. She was interested, but very much on the defensive since day one, which made me hesitant until date 3. In retrospect there was likely a frame battle in which she tried to push the boyfriend frame, and I partly gave in by delaying action.
Guys your feedback is welcome.
