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MakeHerHappy

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Julien Blanc's is one of the mentor in RSD and I just found out that he got banned from entering Australia, Canada, and maybe Japan soon. Take a read: http://time.com/3578387/julien-blanc-fe ... -dynamics/

That's what happened to people who get to abusive with their skills, head getting too big, and lack of respect to women. His teachings were way out of line, he shows aggressive behavior towards women and its not acceptable to the society. If the society will allow this person to walk around teaching people with this method then the whole world should really disagree.
 

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MakeHerHappy,

Yea definitely. Banned him. Just like how the world takes the proactive approach to terrorist and everything isn't going so well, because it all depends on environment. At the end of the day...

At the end of the day, men who supports the petition for whiteknighting will resent women, women will feel retarded and don't know whether they did the right thing or wrong thing. I guess my notes from Chase writings that Life moves in cycles and my research, didn't go to waste.

Not surprised at all, but there will be curiosity.

(no bitterness, just annoyed)

Zac
 

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@Zac

I really disagree with his method, his gone too far, and treating women like a bunch of dog. He really is an asshole afterall, no being a sexist is the worst. If he ever step foot here in my homeland or even just hearing of him planning to step in here I will be the first person to bust his head open and I mean it.

Sorry just really need to take out my feelings out of this one.
 

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MakeHerHappy,

MakeHerHappy said:
I really disagree with his method, his gone too far, and treating women like a bunch of dog. He really is an asshole afterall, no being a sexist is the worst. If he ever step foot here in my homeland or even just hearing of him planning to step in here I will be the first person to bust his head open and I mean it.

Sorry just really need to take out my feelings out of this one.

I am cool with you ranting out. Girlschase is also a place where we respect people's feelings.

I just pretend i didn't see you bashing him if it happens. But yea... i get it if it hits on people's nerves. The way to handle what happen, is "wrong" however. It just doesn't work well long term.

Guess life's hard. :)

Zac
 

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Person like him and whole RSD gurus are the people who plague the world of women kind, and exactly need to be stop at once.
 

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Admittedly, I haven't really followed this story at all because I don't actually give a shit. But as I understand it this guy is getting a bunch of hate for being overly aggressive (and abusive?) and many people including yourself find this offensive. I'm not into the whole overly aggressive thing personally because it's something you need to be careful with. That said, you really don't need to "bust" these guys for stepping into your country... As much as we don't need sexism, we equally don't need a bunch of social justice warriors with their bleeding hearts. If you don't like how he handles himself, as I don't, then be different. Don't get caught up in a wave of useless hate and mob mentality.
 

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EdenSerpent said:
Admittedly, I haven't really followed this story at all because I don't actually give a shit. But as I understand it this guy is getting a bunch of hate for being overly aggressive (and abusive?) and many people including yourself find this offensive. I'm not into the whole overly aggressive thing personally because it's something you need to be careful with. That said, you really don't need to "bust" these guys for stepping into your country... As much as we don't need sexism, we equally don't need a bunch of social justice warriors with their bleeding hearts. If you don't like how he handles himself, as I don't, then be different. Don't get caught up in a wave of useless hate and mob mentality.

No, he just gone too far and I'm no justice warrior with a mob mentality. Imagine what will happen if we let this guy roam around with an attitude like that? If we do that and many years from now the whole womankind will be nothing but a sex symbol for the eyes of other men that he taught with on his seminars. Julien and other RSD are one of the products of fucked up mentality, too much PUA shit for them that they actually crossing the line, sooner or later they will end up as rapist, or just like the guy (PU Guru) who end up in a jail for shooting a minor in the face.

You don't see his attitude as abusive? What does abusive behavior means to you?

You don't give a shit, that's your mentality. "Oh by all means let them burn as long as I'm saving my ass." Please.
 

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hmm I might start up some fire here but here we go...

I personally don't think what Julien's doing is all that big of a deal. He's just running game on girls, he's not like mass murdering and raping women lol.
Interesting thing is if you watch his infield footage the girls are, for the most part, extremely enthralled and having more fun with him than most girls are with the average infield footage clip on youtube. Most of what he does is just a joke not to be taken seriously, however I do think he has a little line of misogyny in his blood stream.

Are you aware that Julien intentionally crafted and created those videos in a way to emotionally stir up the media to get noticed and cause people to freak out?

Jeffy from the RSD clan originally got an article written on him from an angry feminist that he had a bad date with that went viral in his home city. Jeffy talked in a free tour video about Julien getting jealous of getting feminist attention and went on a crusade to cause a stir in the media... presumably for his own amusement.

Have you watched any of RSD's stuff in the past and tried to see where their actually coming from or did you just see the news article and believe everything they told you?

All the media and hype on Julien Blanc from what I've seen has been blown out of proportion and ridiculous lies. You might want to try and see both sides before jumping on the bandwagon of anit-pua haters/feminists/white-nights. RSD as a company appears to me to genuinely want to be a solid resource of self improvement for young men, and I honestly think their doing a great job.

Interesting the difference in view points, curious to your thoughts on the matter?

-Rob
 

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MakeHerHappy wrote:
Imagine what will happen if we let this guy roam around with an attitude like that? If we do that and many years from now the whole womankind will be nothing but a sex symbol for the eyes of other men that he taught with on his seminars. Julien and other RSD are one of the products of fucked up mentality, too much PUA shit for them that they actually crossing the line, sooner or later they will end up as rapist, or just like the guy (PU Guru) who end up in a jail for shooting a minor in the face.

Well, even if they don't let him into some countries, they can't ban him from the internet right? A lot of the seduction stuff is learned via the internet these days, it's just personal coaching and workshops are more effective.
Personally, I like RSD and some of their instructors, especially Owen, Alex, Brad and Todd, and it seemed like you're judging RSD from just Julien and the hate articles people wrote about him and RSD.
Some of Julien's method, like the choke opener LOL, is a bit extreme for me, but let's be realistic here, the women who are with him are having fun and don't even look like they're getting raped. He knows how to calibrate it so he doesn't go too far. The videos he show are just a snippet of the whole interaction.
I don't know how he treat these women afterwards, but he's got the whole ONS frame going on, so the women probably know he's not a good bf material.
 

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MakeHerHappy said:
You don't give a shit, that's your mentality. "Oh by all means let them burn as long as I'm saving my ass." Please.

Absolutely. There's literally no reason for your concern. The RSD material that you're afraid of will ultimately operate in the same way this site's material does. That is, it will only end up being used by those with the personality and drive to use them, most people will not. So to apply this fact to your worries: if women respond positively to it, those guys may have an edge over you, but there won't be enough of them to shut you out in any real way. If women respond negatively to it, your job just got that much easier. So to respond to your question, what I consider an abuse is irrelevant. An abuse is something that is inherently harmful to others, and isn't applicable to everyone.

So you're right. when I see situations like this, it doesn't bother me in the least. In fact, I laugh at just how easy it is for me to get what I want because of "outrages" like these. One final note, the girls that you're concerned for are adults and can take care of themselves. They've been doing so without your help for a very long time and will continue to do so without your help. If that isn't enough to make you re-evaluate the situation, then content yourself with being a breathing safe-haven for those same women.
 
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All,

I think it is highly important to know where MakeHerHappy comes from. He noted this.

MakeHerHappy said:
That's what happened to people who get to abusive with their skills, head getting too big, and lack of respect to women. His teachings were way out of line, he shows aggressive behavior towards women and its not acceptable to the society. If the society will allow this person to walk around teaching people with this method then the whole world should really disagree.

In a societal context, i think it's highly important to keep a balance on what is accepted and what is not. If i was a government official, i will like to have MakeHerHappy around because as much as i do not care what other people do this days, you still need to have a system somewhat to keep everything. Just like if you do not brush your teeth for one day, it's ok but if you do not brush your teeth for one week, it becomes retarded.

So MakeHerHappy, i think it's important to know that your opinion is good. You actually have a balanced approach as well. However, We are also in the dating website context. Our objective is to improve ourselves. Personally, we cannot do very much about Julien but even then, you applying your knowledge and fight in the wrong place.

Your opinion is important, for your own understanding. IT's like using a hammer to unscrew a nail. Different tool, Different place. :) I am also glad, and probably most of us are glad that we value different opinions here. That's important to keep the Girlschase community work.

Zac
 

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ZacAdam said:
Your opinion is important, for your own understanding. I am also glad, and probably most of us are glad that we value different opinions here. That's important to keep the Girlschase community work.
Agreed!

To be totally fair though makeherhappy's opinion and conflicting opinions are both right to some extent and I think it's good to have your opinions and beliefs challenged. For all of us. Makes you step outside your paradigm and analyze from both angles to hopefully come to the "real" conclusion.
 

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At the end of the day he's essentially treating them how many of them treat other (with massive disrespect and manipulation and game playing).

Yea, Treating them back how they treat men. Maybe my version is extreme. EEEKSSS.. A HELLFIRE CHOKESLAM! :D Seems fun though.

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