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Last min resistance 3 times in a row - What`s wrong with me!?!

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I had a very bad luck with woman throughout my life. However, I`m very personable, that means I can be very comfortable with any woman I meet through cold approach or online dating.

I`m 27 years old, an immigrant living in NYC. I`ve decided to work on my skills with woman and online dating recently. I met 10 women before I found your website and I had no score, no 2nd dates either.

I brought 4 girls at home in the past week and I got laid once out of 4.

The last girl I brought just last night was an amazing girl, in her 20s, perfect body and great lips..I`m doing exactly the same things Chase is telling us to do with LTR, but I can`t seems to break through.

It really started to annoy me since I lost 3 gorgeous girls in a row. It would mean world to me if smn can tell me where I`m doing wrong! I`m about to leave the game, because it really bothers me to see these girls leaving without sex...Can you please give me advice?

Here is what I`m doing all the time:

- I get into deep diving at the bar, and suggest them to go to the bars around my area (which is 25 min by a cab) in 25 minutes of meeting.
- They say OK and I directly take them to my apartment.
- I get their shoes taken off and give them a glass of water.
- I kiss them within 10 min of getting in my apt.
- I try to escalate, they resist, I kiss again, they resist again, I repeat this process in different ways for hours
- At the end, they either leave or stay in the same bed, but no sex. It really kills me..

Things I think I might be doing wrong:
- I never tell them that we`re going to my apt at the bar. I tell them that there are great bars around and I take them home directly. Maybe they think I lie for taking them directly to home?

- I barely get hard when I escalate. Might be a reason? They see that I don`t get very hard for them to be turned on enough for sex.

- We kiss a lot, I mean a lot. I then lick their nipples and breasts and repeat the process again again and again.

- I make them very comfortable, but doesn`t end up with sex.


I really appreciate if you can give me some suggestions on this? What more can I do?
 

Franco

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pstt,

LMR can come in many different forms, and the reasons vary. It's really hard to pinpoint where LMR arose from in one particular interaction, but if you're getting it repeatedly, then you need to analyze what you did in all of the cases you received LMR to try to find out what it was.

One thing you might want to consider is what you're revealing to a woman when you're deep-diving with her. Are you a successful guy who has a stable income and are coming across as a great provider? Does she feel like she would get a lot of value out of you outside of sex?

If you feel like this isn't the issue, then it probably comes down to the way you escalate at your place. In general, it sounds like you're doing most things correctly (which is probably why you do actually have 1 lay out of 4 attempts), but there might be a few tweaks in your game you can make to be more consistent. A couple tips I've recommended before are to go for her pussy first before you go for her shirt. As a matter of fact, if you can slip two fingers into her pussy before you do just about anything else, including not even removing her pants/skirt/jeans, then you'll have a LOT more success getting to sex from there. I generally escalate with a girl by kissing her but using my hand to feel up her legs and her ass while working my way toward her pussy. If she tends to show resistance, I'll slide my hand more toward her legs and then work my way back up again.

If you feel like you're getting them consistently wet, and getting all of their clothes off, and even getting your fingers in them but STILL not getting to sex, then it might have to do with how you are addressing their verbal resistance. Are you trying to logically explain to them why you two should have sex, or are you simply being playful and making them laugh and be comfortable with the idea of you two getting together? It sounds like your persistence is good (since you said you would try for hours), but you also need to make sure you're addressing their concerns in a way that makes them feel comfortable. Never try to address them logically since you don't want to engage in a logical argument about why you two should have sex -- it takes the girl out of the mood and it's an argument that's difficult to win until you've had sex with her.

Finally, the last thing to understand is that some women will just NOT be down with having sex without a date. If you're pulling these girls from a bar without taking them on a date first, then some of them will literally just not let it happen as hard as you try. These tend to be the more experienced women who've had a lot of partners but are looking for something monogamous at the moment. In general, this shouldn't happen too often, but it's possible to get a string of women like this in a row if you're a bit unlucky.

- Franco
 

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Franco said:
One thing you might want to consider is what you're revealing to a woman when you're deep-diving with her. Are you a successful guy who has a stable income and are coming across as a great provider? Does she feel like she would get a lot of value out of you outside of sex?

If you feel like you're getting them consistently wet, and getting all of their clothes off, and even getting your fingers in them but STILL not getting to sex, then it might have to do with how you are addressing their verbal resistance. Are you trying to logically explain to them why you two should have sex, or are you simply being playful and making them laugh and be comfortable with the idea of you two getting together?
- Franco


I always tell them about what I do and may sound like a provider, however, I always tell them that I would leave NYC for business purposes and won`t be back for years. So, this should remove the doubts, don`t you think so?

When I escalate, I don`t talk about sex at all. Nothing but kissing and touching. Can you advise what I should talk about? How can I make her comfortable with the idea of us getting together verbally?

Thanks a lot!
 

Franco

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pstt,

I always tell them about what I do and may sound like a provider, however, I always tell them that I would leave NYC for business purposes and won`t be back for years. So, this should remove the doubts, don`t you think so?

Well, while this is probably better than saying that you're a very secure guy who makes a lot of money and isn't moving anywhere, it still might hurt you a bit. If she thinks that you can be a provider now OR in the near future, then she's still going to be cautious about proceeding toward sex with you. It's best to be as vague as possible about what it is that you do so that she doesn't have much to go off of when she's evaluating you as provider. What might be happening is that these girls see FUTURE potential in you as a provider, so they would still rather try to keep you around as long as possible without having sex so that they have a shot with you as a long-term partner later (which almost never happens, but girls don't know this of course).

You could try experimenting with being more vague about what it is that you do. I'm not sure how stationary your job is, but you can also mention that you are gone for very long periods of time and that you don't really plan on staying in any one location for too long, which makes you less of an option to her. Play around with a few different things and see what gets you results.

When I escalate, I don`t talk about sex at all. Nothing but kissing and touching. Can you advise what I should talk about? How can I make her comfortable with the idea of us getting together verbally?

Well, she has to be saying SOMETHING when you escalate to prevent you from escalating, right? What kinds of LMR is she giving you, and what does she say when she does it?

- Franco
 

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Well, she has to be saying SOMETHING when you escalate to prevent you from escalating, right? What kinds of LMR is she giving you, and what does she say when she does it?

- Franco


She is saying things like : I really gotta go, I should leave now. An when I reach for the pussy: Ohh not there, no. Stop. Things like that.

What should I say when I hear things like these next time?

Thanks a lot Franco!
 

Nova

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looks to me like the heart of the issue is with your escalation process. franco's tips are very good so look to apply those.

An when I reach for the pussy: Ohh not there, no. Stop. Things like that.

also try running your hands up and down her body while kissing her, over her tits and touching her pussy before moving up or down again gets her used to you touching her in those areas without her really being able to lift your hand off, gradually slow things down and touch those intimate area for longer and more often, until she is so used to it that she doesn't try to move you.
 

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Here are some responses I would make (all of them with a sly smile):

Her: I really gotta go, I should leave now.
Me: Oh really? That episode of the Bachelorette is just THAT more exciting than what we're doing now, huh? ;)

Her: Ohh not there, no.
Me: Well, it's not my fault you look so damn sexy tonight... I just can't keep my hands off of you! ;)

Her: Stop.

NOTE: You only usually get a girl actually saying "Stop" if you keep aggressively trying to escalate without addressing her concerns the right away. At that point, she's usually just annoyed with you and might take leave on her own.

Anyway, as you can see from my responses, they are very playful and remind her that you find her very attractive and that what you're doing just feels so right. Remember, with women, it's about making them feel emotionally ready to have sex with you. You need to make them laugh, smile, and be in a playful/sexual mood so that they just don't want to do anything else BUT have sex with you!

Practice throwing playful responses at women while you physically caress them and practice always keeping a smile on your face so that they know you're enjoying just being sexual with them. If you come across as too serious or too direct in your responses to girls, they will tend to get logical with you and start fending off your advances because they are worried that you just want to "pump and dump" them.

- Franco
 

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Great points, Franco. I`ll try this and create magics!
 

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Franco, I did what you said mostly in today`s report. Please check it out. This time, she didn`t kiss me! I don`t know what happened.
 

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Psst, dont worry mate. it'll come naturally.probably its bcoz your still not yet gotit down to where its coming out naturally.. the more you pull and practice the easier it gets for you.
 
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How do you kiss a girl? Tell us about your Dynamic on kissing...

Maybe that's what is wrong? And do you consider you always have the fresh air of a "Sexy Man"?
 

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Franco said:
Here are some responses I would make (all of them with a sly smile):

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Anyway, as you can see from my responses, they are very playful and remind her that you find her very attractive and that what you're doing just feels so right. Remember, with women, it's about making them feel emotionally ready to have sex with you. You need to make them laugh, smile, and be in a playful/sexual mood so that they just don't want to do anything else BUT have sex with you!

Practice throwing playful responses at women while you physically caress them and practice always keeping a smile on your face so that they know you're enjoying just being sexual with them. If you come across as too serious or too direct in your responses to girls, they will tend to get logical with you and start fending off your advances because they are worried that you just want to "pump and dump" them.

This is a class response from Franco.
 
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