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Frost

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This is the story of what happened last night at a latino bar.

Short version:

I went to a latino bar with my columbian friends who brought their female friends. One of them was showing a lot of interest and we danced really close for a bit, then she comes back and dances with another guy. After that a bunch of their friends come and she dances with one guy and they start to kiss on the dancefloor. I'd like to understand what happened.

Longer version:


Intro

My Colombian friend Ralph invited me to join him and a bunch of other colombians at a latino bar last night, the kind where it's very crowded, everybody speaks spanish and people are dancing salsa and stuff. Once I got there, I went to the signal-free basement where the "dancefloor" is, and I see Ralph dancing with a chick that I know, then I go to find the rest of them. There was John, Ralph's friend whom I also know, Maria whom I also know since last year, and 3 other girls I didn't know.


Start of the night

I started speaking to one of the girls (actually not the one I was most interested in, but she was standing the closest to me) and we danced some salsa (with what I remember from my very basic skills lol). Then I decided to go back up to get a signal because I was expecting a message. There I find Maria with one of the hotter chicks, Emma.


IOI

I talk to them a little bit (in my beginner level spanish), and then a song comes on and Emma grabs my hand, wanting to dance. Then she stops and says let's go downstairs. We all go down to the basement, she puts her beer on the table and we start dancing salsa. Well my dancing was awful, especially since I was dancing with a colombian, but then I switch into close position, which is where I feel more comfortable ;). She got even closer to me and we danced for bit. I told her that I prefer batchata over salsa, she laughed and then said we will definitely dance on a batchata song. Then they start putting reggaeton music and we danced quite heavily there. Afterwards came the batchata song and again I was escalating, but not very heavily. We were dancing very closely and so on.

After that we sat down, talked for a bit, then she had to go to the bathroom. I stayed there chatting with her friends, until the people who had reserved the table we were sitting at came, so we had to get up, and everyone had to put their jackets in the coatroom. As we were getting up she comes back, we tell her what's going on, and then I tell her I'm going up anyway and ask her if she wants to come with me. She gets her beer, I take her hand and lead her through the crowds to the upper floor. There she decides to step outside to smoke or something with Maria. Since I wasn't wearing my jacket I didn't want to go out so I stayed in with the other girls. A few minutes later, she and Maria come in, with a guy, and she takes him by the arm to dance.


Getting out of hand

She goes and dances with the guy so I dance with Maria. I wasn't gonna get needy or anything. Then the reggaeton music comes back on, and I take her hand and dance with her for like 2 songs, and even though it was close like before, I felt that she was more distant, and less engaged. I was thinking about what to do after we stopped dancing together when another group of colombians that they knew arrive, then one of the guys takes her hand to dance, 2 minutes later they were kissing on the dancefloor while dancing. This is where I officially gave up trying to understand the situation. I stayed a bit longer (my friends had gone long before) then I left.


Analysis

As far as I can tell, she was either very horny and constantly looking for someone to end the night with, or she was just doing this for the validation. Either way, I don't think I could have done the escalation any faster. What do you think?
 

Anaar

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This is just what comes to my mind:

1. Maybe you could have escalated faster. I wasn't there, so I'll take your word, but it is possible that you're wrong.
2. The new guy who was kissing her could have been a man she had already had sex with, but who she didn't expect to see that night while she was with you. There could be a whole history between them which is invisible to you.
3. It sounds like her interest in you was strong until when you were talking to her, so maybe the conversation was bad. Or maybe she just wanted to fuck and got impatient with you trying to have a conversation instead of taking her home.
 
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Hector Papi Castillo

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She was sort of interested but found someone she liked more. You could have escalated more with her, but the interaction was very short and, as Anaar points out, we weren't there. When it comes to nuanced interactions like these, we either need super detail or had to be there. You might say she felt X way, but someone watching might easily see that she was being politely flirty but not super interested. Girls in social circle are ambiguous like that- they'll flirt with you so that you fall for them and they get one more orbiter, but they weren't super interested from the get-go.

Maybe include some of your conversation that you had. Her going to the bathroom then going with her friends without you are all signs she lost interest faster than you think she did.

Hector
 

Frost

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Anaar said:
This is just what comes to my mind:

1. Maybe you could have escalated faster. I wasn't there, so I'll take your word, but it is possible that you're wrong.
2. The new guy who was kissing her could have been a man she had already had sex with, but who she didn't expect to see that night while she was with you. There could be a whole history between them which is invisible to you.
3. It sounds like her interest in you was strong until when you were talking to her, so maybe the conversation was bad. Or maybe she just wanted to fuck and got impatient with you trying to have a conversation instead of taking her home.

1. I'm no expert but we danced for like 2 or 3 songs after I had just arrived. She hadn't even finished her drink, so I think I can safely say that it was quite a short interaction.

2. She definitely knew him from before, so it's very possible.

3. It wasn't much of a conversation. We finished dancing, sat down next to her friends so that she can continue her drink, and we exchanged a few sentences, the basics what are you doing in Paris and so on. Next she says something to her friends and tells me that she's going to the bathroom. You know the rest, we find out that we need to leave the table, so everyone takes their stuff. She comes back and we tell her what happened. She takes her beer and I take her hand (and squeeze and she squeezed back) to lead her up the stairs, then she goes outside.



Hector Castillo said:
She was sort of interested but found someone she liked more. You could have escalated more with her, but the interaction was very short and, as Anaar points out, we weren't there. When it comes to nuanced interactions like these, we either need super detail or had to be there. You might say she felt X way, but someone watching might easily see that she was being politely flirty but not super interested. Girls in social circle are ambiguous like that- they'll flirt with you so that you fall for them and they get one more orbiter, but they weren't super interested from the get-go.

Maybe include some of your conversation that you had. Her going to the bathroom then going with her friends without you are all signs she lost interest faster than you think she did.

Hector

What you said in the first sentence is exactly what I was thinking there. Until I arrived there was a shortage of guys, then I come and she's all over me. Afterwards the new guy and the guy she knows. With the new guy she wasn't acting like she was with me, she danced a bit with him but that was it. With me she was quite sexual in her moves, or so I believe. I can say very certainly that she wasn't being politely flirty, and I can't really describe the situation better than that lol. That was a social circle situation, but not a close social circle. I'm barely even on the edge of the circle because it's not like I see these girls regularly, and while I might see them again once or twice that would be it.
 
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