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Lighthearted VS Deep

Zoro

Cro-Magnon Man
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We know there are different types of value you can provide a girl, and that she will treat you differently based on her assessment.

Like, if she see's you would be a fun fuckbuddy — but an even BETTER boyfriend — she'll probably start you treat you more like a boyfriend (and trade no-strings-attached sex for investment and commitment).

So here's my problem. I know when to deep dive vs keeping things lighthearted. I'm just not good at keeping things fun and flirty without diving deep. I think this is why I have not slept with a lot of women, but instead have kept a few quality women around for a while.

It's takes longer to find someone who's compatible to make a great connection with, and when it happens it's powerful and fruitful since this is my strong point.

But the real issue is when I meet a girl who I'm only interested in as a fuck buddy. Usually I don't even go the deep connection route because I know that's not what I want to do. But sometimes I do, and this usually ends up with a very different vibe. Even if I hook up with the girl I feel like I led her on, because we established this great connection she thinks my intentions are to continue building an emotional connection.

I hate doing this, because now the relationship is on a totally different trajectory and I care about doing things right for both of our sakes. I don't want the drama and hurt from having to shut down a relationship off course and I do want a light hearted flirty fun fuckbuddy relationship.

I think my weakness in this area shows up in parties as well. I can hardly ever keep the attention of a group of revelers, but get me one and one and we're deep in conversation.

Luckily I have a friend who's fantastic at this. We go out consistently every week and I see him light up any girl he talks with into a ball of smiles, giggles, and omgs. I'll eventually soak up what he's doing, but I'd like some good ol' GC input to make ship set sail sooner.

To be clear, I don't really have a problem with escalating. I think my issue is more on the verbal side on the game. It's probably accurate to say what I'm trying to do is flirting.

Shit just took a few minutes to wrap that around my head. Yup. All I see my friend do is flirt with these girls. I remember talking with one of the girls I met last time we went out. We talked for an hour about some cool shit. Great convo. Yet I cannot remember flirting at all. Not good.

So I notice my friend:
always keeps the topic on him and the girl
conversation is laced with either blatant or mild sexuality
always amusing himself

Seems like I need to work on my flirting skills. I've come to this conclusion before, but not with the context of improving my ability to manage FB relationships. Cool.
 
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Mr.Rob

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Hey Jwick,

I absolutely agree with you in your way of handling differences in your interactions based on your goals.

First off:
J Wick said:
It's takes longer to find someone who's compatible to make a great connection with, and when it happens it's powerful and fruitful since this is my strong point.

This is good. I'd rather have more trouble sleeping with girls fast and accumulating fast hook ups then forming deep relationships with girls you actually want in your life, so definitely be happy that you have this problem versus the opposite problem (easy at getting fast lays but not good at forming relationships).

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I used to be more deep with my interactions in 2013 through early 2014. I then changed my game up to be much more assholey (which I'm finally at the point of dialing back these days) and a big emphasis on self-amusement and general obnoxious humor. I found when I'd get a girl to hook we wouldn't really talk too much about the finer details of her life or my life and I'd instead just rant and riff with her talking about stuff I found really funny and basically just treating the girls more like a bratty little sister than an equal romantic interest. I wish I could break it down for you a bit better. I modeled a lot of my "light hearted" game off of RSD Tyler and eventually RSD Derek before finding my own style that I felt congruent with.

Ya wish that was more helpful. Perhaps try honing your skills in nightgame where lighthearted game is typically needed to keep the attention of party girls as opposed to deep connections.

An old LR of the first girl I laid when I shifted from deep to lighthearted game is here if you want more of a case study to get some ideas from: https://boards.girlschase.com/viewtopic.php?t=7497&p=35430

Cheers J,
-Rob
 
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