LR lmr brought a knife...to a gunfight

[Ree]

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[Rage]

you're fucking hilarious dude hahaha well done.

Rage

 

[HellAtlantic]

Sorry bro, this is not cool:

If the mods don't give this guy a warning then I gotta leave this community. you can't write your LRs like this bro. Your LR is like from the perspective of a rapist. I can't condone this and wouldn't want to be associated with a community that encourages behavior like this and flippant attitude when writing a LR. Girls aren't meat. Every girl is someone's daughter. Yes they love sex but you just can't write a LR in this manner. Someone should treat your sister or future wife how you wrote about this girl and then we'll see if you still want to write with that smirk on your face. This isn't college bro, there's guys from all types of background and ages here. This LR might win you some friends in a frat but I don't think the mods or chase here want this community to be known as the frat house of the PU community. No one can learn anything from what you wrote because if anyone else tried to emulate this 9/10 they'd be arrested. You're lucky you didn't get arrested but I still wouldn't go bragging about this one in the manner you just did. Have some respect.

 

[Ree]

Sorry bro, this is not cool:

If the mods don't give this guy a warning then I gotta leave this community. you can't write your LRs like this bro. Your LR is like from the perspective of a rapist. I can't condone this and wouldn't want to be associated with a community that encourages behavior like this and flippant attitude when writing a LR. Girls aren't meat. Every girl is someone's daughter. Yes they love sex but you just can't write a LR in this manner. Someone should treat your sister or future wife how you wrote about this girl and then we'll see if you still want to write with that smirk on your face. This isn't college bro, there's guys from all types of background and ages here. This LR might win you some friends in a frat but I don't think the mods or chase here want this community to be known as the frat house of the PU community. No one can learn anything from what you wrote because if anyone else tried to emulate this 9/10 they'd be arrested. You're lucky you didn't get arrested but I still wouldn't go bragging about this one in the manner you just did. Have some respect.

No one can learn anything?....u my freind can learn something

Women need sex...that much u know....but apart from needing sex....women need to be able to look like innocent lil girly girls for society...herein lies the problem....lmr comes in different flavors
This particular brand is lmr that comes from a girl not wanting to be judged by you...and not wanting to judge herself too...
In other words she wants sex...but wants to bear no responsibility

She wants to be able to put the blame squarely on u...."i told him no,its him who wanted it,,i am not a slut"
Secondly it turns her on to be the object of such mad desire,for an otherwise sane rational man,to go all caveman like her,
U wudnt believe howhard this gal was cuming,

Now u might ask,how is making a woman submit like this different from rape?
1.no violence
2.she can leave anytime she wants
3.physical escalation is mutual...i wasnt caresing a girl with masking tape on her face and handcuffs on her arms....she was kissing back....and had hands her all over me

U can either be mad and inevitably lose some women that u otherwisemight have had,or learn from my post...
..summary...

woman want sex
They want it to be ur fault
They want to be desired(especially if u chase frame hardlike me,its a relief for them when u finally desire them so honestly)

Learn it or shun it

Im guessing u r a romantic...there is nothing wrong abt that..im hedonistic and mechanic...our motivations differ...,majority of women i just want to fuck...i deep dive not because i care,but it simply a tool in my arsenal to get the pussy...true there r some women who i want to love and hug and cuddle with and make them my girlfreind...but there will have to be drop dead gorgeous....and smart and...well..usually its just the pussy....
Mod shud give me a warning?...for just wanting some women for the pussy?.....ur tripping bro....nuh..they shud raise my rank....and give me a badge for taking time to try and share knowledge

 

[HellAtlantic]

You must be one of those ppl who can't figure out why those pics of US soldiers mistreating a prisoner from Guatanamo Bay was dishonorable instead of everyone finding it funny.

It's one thing to have someone as a prisoner.

You don't have to degrade them.

I'm saying if someone from outside the PU community happens upon your LR and sees comments like "what's the difference between rape and seduction" it's gonna raise severe red flags for the whole community. And I don't want my name/email address associate with a place that promotes that kind of degradation. It's one thing to come here and talk about how to push thru LMR, it's another thing to mockingly disregard an entire gender. This LR is just your account of events, I'm sure her perspective might differ. In this day and age of false rape accusations your LR would be enough evidence to get you thrown in jail.

Choose your words more carefully in your LRs. Read a LR from a guy like Seppuku and you tell me you can't see a difference between how you write a LR and how he does. And you tell me you can't see a difference between how you write about pushing thru LMR and how he does.

And if a married guy who frequents a PU website could be considered a romantic that'd be a first.

 

[NotRealFakeDude]

I don't really like how this is formatted. It's kinda hard to follow. Lacking a lot of details.
But I did learn a little bit about LMR, which is huge reoccurring problem in my game.
The last three nights I've gone out and went back to a girls place to her bed. And all three nights I faced a lot of LMR and didn't get the lay. Is this the best way to deal with a lot of LMR? Should I be this forceful? I'm pretty aggressive but not quite as extreme as this. Should I be more aggressive like this? Sorry for asking so much questions. I'm about to post a Field Report later.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Everyone,

This is where most people do not understand. Chodes, as in whiteknights, they do this A HELL LOT MORE THAN PUAs.

What is it? Breaking down her barrier.

You see, Whiteknights/your chode friends, they do this text and wait for three months and get lucky with a relationship.

Same thing. Chodes (feminist narrative breed of beta-born males, which is us) break down her barrier with nonsense. PUAs break down her with persistence and not chase.

p.s: Ree is feeling like a guy, where you feel like 'hell yeah, i did this shit man. I fuck bitches'. It is not like that and he explain it. Please don't go morals on me. I slap the shit out of any person here if they don't read properly. She even remove her top and bra herself

I can explain the push-pull that some women do that is not socially calibrated but i guess to people outside, it is "violence", when it is actually just a normal mating dance/quarrel that is not involve bruises but emotions.

Zac

 

[HellAtlantic]

Sir, for someone who admits to not actually doing much PU (but writing a ton of posts about it anyway) you may not be the best authority on this matter. The poster says "she can leave any time she wants" and then in another sentence says how he prevented her from leaving and picked up her up and threw her back on the bed. The calibration needed to successfully push thru LMR in such an aggressive manner as her did can and eventually *will* get u into trouble. I'm not saying he raped her (although he's the one who used the word first, not me) I'm saying there is a fine line between the aggressive PUA who pushes thru LMR and an actual rapist who insists "she wanted it, she was just playing games". There is more harm than good that can come out of this *especially* for inexperienced guys. It is not advisable to be this aggressive and certainly not advisable to write a report in this manner. I'm no white knight, it's just you don't want reports like this suggesting this is advisable or encouraged. I'll back out of this thread, if I see it continue I'll simply leave as it'd be apparent that this isn't a community dedicated to men bettering themselves that it claims to be.

 

[ray_zorse]

Hell, although indeed the jokes could be misinterpreted, I think this us a great report and Ree does a pretty good job in his post further down of explaining why it is necessary to smash LMR amd why he did what he did. Bloody good job. I completely disagree that this could be interpreted as rape or that Ree did the wrong thing here. If you are not prepared to do what it takes and you fall at the first barrier she puts up, you do not get the honey. It is that simple.

Further I have to say I didn't like your criticism of Zac as a dude who doesn't practice much seduction, because I do not think YOU practice much seduction Hell! Honestly a lot of your views seem opposed to what is generally taught here, for instance I just read your post to 1d10t suggesting he look for IOIs more, well IOI based game is pretty advanced and Chase recommends beginners forget about IOIs and just approach. I still do this and, although I deliberately follow a scattergun approaching style and often lack focus, I still believe the more approaches you do, the better your chance of getting laid. You obviously don't agree, but I would like to see an LR where your IOI-based game got you laid, cos I think it doesn't. I think you are just ego-preserving.

Ray

 

[Ree]

I don't really like how this is formatted. It's kinda hard to follow. Lacking a lot of details.
But I did learn a little bit about LMR, which is huge reoccurring problem in my game.
The last three nights I've gone out and went back to a girls place to her bed. And all three nights I faced a lot of LMR and didn't get the lay. Is this the best way to deal with a lot of LMR? Should I be this forceful? I'm pretty aggressive but not quite as extreme as this. Should I be more aggressive like this? Sorry for asking so much questions. I'm about to post a Field Report later.

Hey,most of my seduction interactions tend to go the same..so i just kind of sumarised and skipped past the approaches and the date
i have had very many seductions foiled by LMR....it has different flavors...
I obviously wud not want u to get arrested lol....all i can advice is this...

If the physical escalation is mutual(gal is kissing back,touching u,breathing heavy
If the gal can leave whenever she wants
If u r not using violence or threat of violence

Persist persist persist.
Undress her,carry her,caveman her...as long as the three aforementioned factors remain true..go the dstance..


..both the gal and ur dick will thank u for it

 

[Ree]

Sir, for someone who admits to not actually doing much PU (but writing a ton of posts about it anyway) you may not be the best authority on this matter. The poster says "she can leave any time she wants" and then in another sentence says how he prevented her from leaving and picked up her up and threw her back on the bed. The calibration needed to successfully push thru LMR in such an aggressive manner as her did can and eventually *will* get u into trouble. I'm not saying he raped her (although he's the one who used the word first, not me) I'm saying there is a fine line between the aggressive PUA who pushes thru LMR and an actual rapist who insists "she wanted it, she was just playing games". There is more harm than good that can come out of this *especially* for inexperienced guys. It is not advisable to be this aggressive and certainly not advisable to write a report in this manner. I'm no white knight, it's just you don't want reports like this suggesting this is advisable or encouraged. I'll back out of this thread, if I see it continue I'll simply leave as it'd be apparent that this isn't a community dedicated to men bettering themselves that it claims to be.

The reason girlschase will never be mainstream is not beacuse there is anything wrong with the content..it is because there is something wrong with society....my freinds react in the same way u do...when i tell them about manhandle kisses......
When i carried the girl back to bed,she wasnt kicking and punching and screaming,...she was actually feeling on my arms....asking if i work out....have u never physically escakated on a girl,whos laughing yet telling u to stop?.....there is a fat line betwwen rape and agresively breaking barriers......a rapist penetrates using force,intimidation and threat of force
The victim succumbs because going along with it will cause less bodily harm than resisting.....calling this rape is not just disrespectful to seducers...it is disrespectful to the woman caught in an alleyway ,being punched,and bound or held at gunpoint,fearing for her life while a sociopath penetrates her...because that woman has no choice....calling this rape is most disrespectful to..actual victim of rape

 

[mb1]

Nice one! Bingo with the plausible deniability. She wanted it and I believe if you could have done anything differently or are looking for a smoother process, it may help to express sexual nonjudgment during the date before the pull. If you're coming from a fluff topic background and are only getting into deep diving (and are hedonistic over romantic, even to the point of approaching while waiting for her lol nice one BTW), I'd bet you give off a bit of a player vibe, increasing her ASD for obviously being with a player (now she has shared blame). I've had girls drop straight bullshit lies once they got to realize that I'm wayyyyyy less judgmental than most guys they have ever met. Then we get to open conversations about her sexual past even before fucking, cause a player's different than a secret lover

P.s. anyone have experience with girls cumming harder after ASD? Guys like Alek game to avoid it entirely, but if she's submitting to unrelenting dominance after a struggle... Annoying for us past the point of a little challenge, but super hot for her?

 

[Ree]

Nice one! Bingo with the plausible deniability. She wanted it and I believe if you could have done anything differently or are looking for a smoother process, it may help to express sexual nonjudgment during the date before the pull. If you're coming from a fluff topic background and are only getting into deep diving (and are hedonistic over romantic, even to the point of approaching while waiting for her lol nice one BTW), I'd bet you give off a bit of a player vibe, increasing her ASD for obviously being with a player (now she has shared blame). I've had girls drop straight bullshit lies once they got to realize that I'm wayyyyyy less judgmental than most guys they have ever met. Then we get to open conversations about her sexual past even before fucking, cause a player's different than a secret lover

P.s. anyone have experience with girls cumming harder after ASD? Guys like Alek game to avoid it entirely, but if she's submitting to unrelenting dominance after a struggle... Annoying for us past the point of a little challenge, but super hot for her?

Thanks for the props
Btw.....have u ever had suceeswith alek game,where u make the gal so horny that when u pull she know whats going down?.......if so how did u do it?.....my game ,is very under the radar....my pulls usually fail if not heavily concealed as "going to a food place,going to a place with better music"....any time i say...going to my place..or even kiss during a date...the pull fails
I think pulling under the radar is easier,but at the expense of having to deal with lmr
Lmr is kind of inevitabke

 

[mb1]

Yeah talking from very limited experience here, even the 'under the radar' times could even be ones where she's fully aware of what's going on. The problem might be just not giving her enough plausible deniability. If it's just "going to my place" that's a problem, but if it's to go do something specific, that can be different.

I had a woman pick me up once for our date who was much older (so obviously had some blame hanging out with a younger guy she knows is not monogamous). I met her downstairs and brought her up to see the private office. Didn't even have time to escalate 'cause she knew what would happen once realizing she was sitting on a fold-down futon. Did the whole persistence thing on the stairs and got her to make out and hold my dick til she ran out a little overwhelmed.

Can't remember who texted first but a few days later we were making plans to watch a TV show together on the same futon without any discussion of the event (seems like she's now really aware she can leave any time she wants). I ended up cancelling on her without rescheduling and she texted a couple days ago like "hope you're keeping warm" and a couple others 'cause I haven't responded yet being busy moving (short on time and expecting to lose her here).

So as for Alek's style specifically, I think a lot of it is simply setting up yourself as the sexual prize by demonstrating sex knowledge, and also showing discretion and non-judgment. Personally I think this can get a girl to actually logically decide to sleep with you (though still give her deniability) even if she isn't raging horny (which she probably will be if she's being led through the interaction so effortlessly).

I'm still getting a good hold of touching and innuendo on dates, but out of three successful instances with almost none of that (and simply framing the self as lover vs. boyfriend and following the process of leading her home):
1. Had lots of LMR because she's in a provider-hunting life stage and we had no sexual frame beforehand
2. Travels for work out of town and obviously wanted something casual too so there was absolutely zero LMR simply inviting her for our second drink back at my place
3. Met on Tinder where a LOT of sexual non-judgment was communicated. I dropped off for a while, then reached out again and had a date without any touching/innuendo EXCEPT a very obvious early invitation to come interview for a secretarial position in my office. I kept the conversation going to build more comfort and she eventually invited herself over as we finished our drinks. There was just a little LMR - basically nothing.

 

[Chase]

Ree-

Come on man, you can’t be making jokes like that and then talking about fighting through LMR. Not on the Internet where it’s all text and the context and intonation are just lost.

It makes you legitimately look like some dude who’s going around forcing himself on women, or sound like you’re telling other guys to.

Think before you start making jokes like that.

Chase

 

[demainor]

I think this is all getting lost in the translation, just like Chase said, a lot is being lost when you type shit out as compared to when you hear it. I've met Ree, and l would personally vouch for the guy, hes a fun person and quite charming in fact. His also quite aggressive, which may be one of the best things about him only that it may not have come out right when typing it out. So don't be too quick in going for the jugular HellAtlantic, though l do get where you're coming for. Like we tend to go through, its all about learning how to modulate it by reading the environment and adjusting accordingly.

So good lay bro, am pretty sure you'r writing will mellow out, but don't get rid of it all, your reports are fun to read.

 

[Ree]

I think this is all getting lost in the translation, just like Chase said, a lot is being lost when you type shit out as compared to when you hear it. I've met Ree, and l would personally vouch for the guy, hes a fun person and quite charming in fact. His also quite aggressive, which may be one of the best things about him only that it may not have come out right when typing it out. So don't be too quick in going for the jugular HellAtlantic, though l do get where you're coming for. Like we tend to go through, its all about learning how to modulate it by reading the environment and adjusting accordingly.

So good lay bro, am pretty sure you'r writing will mellow out, but don't get rid of it all, your reports are fun to read.

Btw..i fucked that salsa bitch..yesterday..not sure about how to go about making the report tho...the content is even less politically correct than this..lol

 

[Ree]

Ree-

Come on man, you can’t be making jokes like that and then talking about fighting through LMR. Not on the Internet where it’s all text and the context and intonation are just lost.

It makes you legitimately look like some dude who’s going around forcing himself on women, or sound like you’re telling other guys to.

Think before you start making jokes like that.

Chase

I insist that my methods are not only effective but ethical....that being said..i understand ur reasons for deleting the post..without comending,condoning or condemning ...i understand