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Lotus

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Hey guys,

So clearly I'm pretty new. Been reading for close to a month now and doing self assessments to find out where I am and where I need go. Was waiting for a good field report for my first post but saw a post in the beginner section that I had to jump in on. Now that I popped my cherry I might as well get this stuff out there.

Background on me: Broke up with my EX of 3 years at this point doesn't matter why but I was using tinder and looking up stuff on texting to find out why I was so bad at tinder. One thing led to another and I ended up here. So now your wondering where do I strand on the PUA totem pole? Well I have been in sports my whole life and my parents gave me some pretty good genes. But you can say I was raised as a nice guy with 0 game. Basically, I am comfortable around women but I was doing everything wrong(unknowingly) and have thus been changing my ways. It's pretty cool to be able to look back and see all of my mistakes.

November 1st and I went out to this pretty classy bar in Baltimore. We were there to meet a handful of girls who were out celebrating one of the girls birthdays. Got there early and the two of us were in some pretty deep convo by the time the girls showed up and had already slung back a couple jack and cokes( Yes I binge, its fun and after 3 years being in a relationship girls are secondary to fun). Oh lord I am glad I did because I had no idea what I was getting into. The birthday girl is unbelievably hot and all of her friends are extremely good looking as well.

The girls come up to us at the bar and we do our introductions. I meet the birthday girl, who most people would classify as a bitch, and two of her friends. Other girls I had to introduce myself to eventually. But one of her friends I get a very warm smile and we being chatting immediately while my buddy chats with the "birthday bitch". He is so far in the friend zone with this girl that they actually address it openly.... fantastic.

I chat with the friend for couple minutes, we will call her Loren. I find out Loren is from the same college as me but she is my buddy's age. Most of these girls I find out are 26+ and I am 23 and I'm pretty intimidated. Eventually the girls go get a table while we finish our drinks and order another round. At the same time "birthday bitch" asked my buddy Mike to hold her jacket and he gives me the "I told you so look", but takes the jacket.

We make it back to their table eventually and its a high top which works well for the social aspect. After meeting everyone I make my way back to Loren and deep dive her for about 30 minutes about her work and school and such. I don't remember quotes due to the alcohol but there was definitely a really good vibe and were sitting pretty close with lots of eye contact and touch.

I'm really loving using the touching mid conversation. It was something I never used before and the results are noticeable.

Then I hit a wall. I had no plan how to move things forward, my mind was churning but nothing was coming out. I felt like if I escalated in a group like that things could get awkward. She was staying at the other girls house and I still had no place to sleep. No plan, no action. Eventually she broke circle to speak to this obnoxious guy in the group who kept coming up and I got up to take a break and gave her a little touch as I stood up.

Later we did the same little dance and I did not escalate again. Looking back I could have asked her to dance and made moves from there but still would have no end game in sight.

The night simmered down from there. We went to one more bar. But.... as it turns out we are staying at the girls place and so is Loren. Yea fuck me. She already has claimed the couch. It is an L couch. She had the long end. My Mike had the short end and I got the end of the L down by Loren's feet. She even was nice enough to give me the end of her blanket..... I got to sleep with my feet on the coffee table in a sitting position. Next to the girl I should have been with if my game was tight. Best sleep I ever had!......

So I learned...... even when intoxicated I can still implement some game but not all. I learned logistics are just as important as game. Still unsure of how I could have made the logistics work smoothly but I'm sure someone here can shed some light on this.


Side note: I know this is pretty long and I don't normally write much. So any general writing comments that stick out are welcome. Always trying to improve.

Until next time,
Brum
 

Zoro

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Sounds like a night full of learning experiences!

At this point failures are chock full of lessons, so no discouragement!

I know you like to drink, but a sober game is solid compared to sloppy drunk game. If you want to have fun, sure drink. if you want to pick up girls, you'll do much much better with water.

As for that wall you hit, always have some sort of plan. Places to be alone, places to go, what your ideal night is, etc. This plan should be flexible but gives you direction.

Keep logging experiences and looking at them with a magnifying glass!

Ps. Gave you some writing tips on another post.
 
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Space Monkey
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brum said:
So clearly I'm pretty new [...] Was waiting for a good field report for my first post but saw a post in the beginner section that I had to jump in on. Now that I popped my cherry I might as well get this stuff out there.
Yep, you might as well! The sooner you get writing, the sooner you begin to seriously analyze what you've been doing.
 

Lotus

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Thanks for the feedback! I will make sure to keep looking at interactions.

I have improved my logistics since this instance.
 

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Space Monkey
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brum said:
I have improved my logistics since this instance.
Please tell us how you've done so and has that also improved your results?

From what you explained in your initial post it seems you:
  • didn't isolate the girl or try to pull her fast enough
  • failed to continue escalating
  • didn't setup any chase or sexual (enough) frames

as it turns out we are staying at the girls place and so is Loren.
So you didn't know where you were staying that? The way you've phrased it makes it seem like you only found out later in the night.
 

Lotus

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Please tell us how you've done so and has that also improved your results?

So you didn't know where you were staying that? The way you've phrased it makes it seem like you only found out later in the night.

At the time this occurred my buddy and I were both not living in the city. I lived about 40 minutes away and was not going to pay for a cab home. My buddy is deep in the friend zone with the birthday girls in question so his "plan" was to try to sleep at their place. which we did.

Now I have a place in the city. Not an issue anymore.

My improved logistics:

I have had two dates since and both of them were within walking distance of my new place. Both dates I was able to pull the girls home with little to no resistance. 1 with - "oh you like weed, want to smoke? I have some at my place". the other girl I said lets check out my new place(since I just moved in)/ also she was teasing me about driving a hatchback(mazda3) and how bad they look. so I had to show her how the new mazda3 look nothing like your typical hatchbacks and are actually really sleek

since I wasn't stressed about my end game I could enjoy and focus on the date completely.
 

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Space Monkey
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brum said:
At the time this occurred my buddy and I were both not living in the city. I lived about 40 minutes away [...] Now I have a place in the city. Not an issue anymore.
Pretty much the same as me! It's very convenient, isn't it?

brum said:
I have had two dates since and both of them were within walking distance of my new place. Both dates I was able to pull the girls home with little to no resistance.
Another thing you can do is invite them round for pre-drinks before you head out. Sometimes it's easier to start the night with a bang, rather than deal with all the hassles of trying to get them home while out.
 
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