Lol, Gambler reads GC and says it's wrong to be only a lover.

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I just watched a video that Gambler posted on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiQUYER8wk and he talked about GC at 8:22. About being the lover vs being the provider. Saying it batter to show provider qualities not only lover.


It's really interesting when different "professional seducers" have different opinions and experiences. I wonder if this is because Chase is american and Gambler is british and most of his seduction is based in Europe and Russia.



What do you guys think?

 

[Franco]

Ico,

I just watched a video that Gambler posted on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLiQUYER8wk and he talked about GC at 8:22. About being the lover vs being the provider. Saying it batter to show provider qualities not only lover.

I feel like the video became moot the second I noticed that he had three women sitting next to him during this discussion.

Think about if he had something like this instead while sitting next to three attractive women during an instructional video:

"When it comes to the lover versus the provider, you really don't want to show many provider qualities at all or a woman will begin to value those qualities as a potential long-term mate, and she'll begin to evaluate whether or not you're worth keeping around a potential partner for the future. Instead, you want to ditch all the provider qualities and show yourself as a sexual man that has nothing to offer her other than sex, so that way she reasons she can be whisked away into the night with you for a night of passionate sex without having reservations about your long-term prospects as a partner."

...and now try to imagine those three women smiling and nodding. I bet you can't really imagine that, right?

Those women wouldn't be sitting next to him smiling right now if he were to paint them as women who should indulge in sexual escapades with men who show no potential value as long-term mates as it would reflect on them as "slutty" to accept his suggestion of this behavior.

If you're going to talk about how you should seduce women, then you shouldn't be doing it in FRONT of women.

- Franco

 

[Ross]

I'm not really going to disagree with Gambler. What he's saying is true - women want a lover, provider, and friend all in one.

But we know that displaying all those qualities will result in her pursuing both a long-term and a short-term relationship. But in order to preserve the long-term relationship, you must compromise and give up qualities of both - resulting in gaining neither.

Instead, we suggest that you're first able to offer the short-term relationship, and then you can show qualities. It's simply a tactic to get past the limits that a girl may place on herself because she incorrectly assesses that waiting to have sex would be better for a relationship, when in reality it will just destroy any hope of one forming.

 

[Verisimilitude]

Did he really even refer to girls chase at all during the video? From what I saw, he didn't. And I'm actually happy about that. I want this site to be a secret for as long as possible and NOT to become popular (sorry Chase) because it gives me a leg up. The less people know and emulate the methods here, the better because I can stand out.

Oh and as far as for what I heard, he isn't necessarily wrong. But he's also got his fundamentals down and comes off very natural. I think that explains a lot of the attraction that he gets.

 

[Estate]

Gambler lost a lot of credibility for me a long time back.
Personal opinion but it is what it is...

 

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Did he really even refer to girls chase at all during the video? From what I saw, he didn't.

Of course he won't say the name, but he did say that there was advice on other seduction website about being the lover and not the provider. That's what GC is all about, one of the main things here is to be the lover and not provider, along with having great fundamentals and moving fast. Those I'd call the 3 pillars of GC.

Gambler lost a lot of credibility for me a long time back.
Personal opinion but it is what it is...

My opinion on him is that his game is different. He uses more of a social circle than cold approach. He talks about building the right social circle and finding female friends. Also he talks that even when he goes to a club he befriends the group and the girls, showing boyfriend value, and then going to seduction. Kinda like Adam Lyons. He also talk about social circle a lot and how he prefers it and how to befriend the girl first and seduce later.

And Chase talks more about cold approach - which I prefer cause I don't have a social circle I can use to get girls. Plus I can get rejected as much as I want cold approaching and no one will ever know . And it'll get girls faster. Even if my rate is 1 in 20 girls that like me, I can do 20 approaches in a week no problem. But with social circle I'll have to build it for months and there'll be 2-3 girls at max and if I screw up with one it's mostly over with the others, and everybody in the circle will find out about this so the egg'll be on my face.