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This is not a really a text post per se it applies to social dynamics and seduction, but obviously since she is not "local" texting/phone/voice stuff super important.....
first one of the inspirations for the post, but there are many tldr:
". We had planned to meet at 5 PM but she texted me asking if it was OK to move it back. I said it wasn’t a problem because, hey, more time to approach! Then she wrote later that she was thinking of Ubering to avoid parking/tolls and that it would be more like 6-6:15. Again, I had no plans other than approach, so I told her this was fine. We bantered a bit about Uber being expensive vs. taking the train. At 5:25 PM, she wrote that she found a Lyft for 50% off and “See you at 6:30!”
I continued approaching with C, and we walked over to the date location together. As we were walking over, at 5:18 PM, she texted “I’m here.” I called her immediately, said I was just finishing up with a friend, and would be there shortly. I rushed to the bar, but couldn’t find her. I called again, and she said “I was getting weird vibes there waiting thinking I was going to be stood up, so I’m going to this other restaurant to eat before I go back to Jersey.” I said “W….what? Were we just not on the phone five minutes ago?” I was beyond confused but was trying to salvage the situation, so I asked where she was. She told me, and I asked if she wanted me to come meet her, or if she would rather eat alone. She said she would rather eat alone. I said “OK, enjoy” and hung up.
As I was walking away, I realized what happened. She sent 6:30 and thought she sent 5:30, then spent an hour stewing by herself about being stood up, while not even bothering to text me that she had arrived.
She then sent me this, to which I replied with a screenshot of her text saying 6:30"
^ Though @pancakemouse did not really do anything wrong the girl is beyond retarded.... I truly believe she was in a down stated and did a future projection of "if i dated this guy i have to travel this long, meh i am out" in womanese, again my mental masturbation speculation, but i am rarely off....
lets dig into long distance, it is very appealing for some men and women:
- people that are not local may come across as exotic and the new shinny object factor vs typical local including different behavior, style, accent etc....
- Some seducers and some women love and actually prefer long distance..... Some seducers love it cause they get to get other women and more freedom. Some women love it cause they associate it with less neediness and men control.
- People love a challenge and what they can not have.
- Following my last point as i have been saying texting long distance (example movie tinder swindler) as i have been saying for years is very powerful.... Cause women and men will project blindness, wish fullness, and desires and ___________ on to that "person"......
^ long distance in my opinion is just a "Trap" you have a "long distance dynamics" it is very similar to those of us that have enjoyed "the fiancée, girlfriend, wife" while taken dynamics just when they get out of the relationship is a totally different dynamic and relationship typically goes to shit..... Cause women love the drama increases attraction, the fairy tale, the weird frame dynamic..... In other words if the "long distance" was not there the dynamic would be shit in most cases....It is pretty much a fantasy....
^ ok so lets talk about the 3 types of women:
- women that love long distance.
- women that hate long distance
- long distance virgins (women that don't know about long distance never experience it)....
Again pick up is a game of odds, a seducer friend of mine said "so you are going to screen when you open where they live?" i said "of course no, that is retarded"... So this is not what i am advocating, i am talking about calibration and high odds game vs "luck" and "i did not know dah"....
Me personally i don't do long distance, but i still fuck them (tourist are the easiest women to bang for obvious reason, in womanese they go into vegas syndrome (what happens in vegas stays in vegas i had no consequences and 0 whore complex cause it does not count and nobody will find out)..... So when puas write lay reports on amazing game on tourist, i roll my eyes and if you read any of my dtf videos and posts (tourist are automatically dtf)....
Anyways back on the post long distance:
scenario 1:
Tourist out of country or state texting or verbals: " i will be your tour guide, once you get to know me and i show you around you will fall totally in love, i will ruin it for every guy you meet after me and you will never want to go back to __________ country or state" use it and field test it is high odds i bang so many girls usindgthis in person or text...
scenario 2:
Depending on interaction if you are in another country/state/city after you have enough intelligence you need to gauge if they hate it cause you are tourist temporarily that raises asd or if she sees you as tourist dtf (inverse vegas syndrome for her).
Different techniques depending on seducer...... Online, i have a screening online criteria, of 20 minutes distance.... Some seducers have 45 minutes... Some seducers don't care as long as she comes over........ At this point of my life i heavely screen for distance cause i like super high odds game at this point... Anything over 20 minutes is out for me....... HOWEVER, is cause at this point in my life i have slept and accomplish pretty much everything there is nothing else for me to see.... So when i was starting i was not heavily screening for distance and that is understandable due to "not knowing better", "lack of options" so i never really look down when newer guys like to play around with long distance.... Just know that if more than 20 minutes away, odds start decreasing.... ( unless she is my ideal 9 or 10 i may break the rule, but not even).
Technique 1- even for online here is a sample of my profile:
^ now i get multiple girls, still saying "i know you say in your profile not more than 20 minutes, but i work down there, or i don't mind driving, or in the highway is 45 minutes is that ok????? some times if they do this i make a calibrated decision based on experience, feel, her looks (8 or above)..
- make sure you have some type of LOGISTICS sorted out aka motel, hotel, rbandb and likes close to her, and/or if you are going down she needs to preferably LIVE ALONE to pull to her place, and you got a feel this can be done or like i used to do that i beg at velasco RIP and lobo a million times to do but they told me it could not be done in ny (and of course i was right they were wrong).... To find a motel hourly to pull as i teach in my videos and posts....(turns out it can be done in ny and actually cheaper than Miami)....
Technique 2 disqualification:
you will disqualify yourself in text or verbals due to distance, when you do this she will SELL YOU and CONVINCE YOU, is not a problem...... The way i do is with a bit of humor and exaggeration(you don't have to use humor but disqualify yourself) here is sample:
technique number 3 change your location.-
For example women in ny/ny and surrounding areas love guys in Manhattan, if they meet you in Manhattan and you live in jersey for example game over(90% of girls would disqualify only due to location) in some cases, for what i understand they like Manhattan guys (automatic dhv due to location, socio economics etc...).... So i know guys in others city just saying that they live in Manhattan, get logistics and the bang cause manhattan dudes at a premium to women....
Questions, comments welcome.....
first one of the inspirations for the post, but there are many tldr:
". We had planned to meet at 5 PM but she texted me asking if it was OK to move it back. I said it wasn’t a problem because, hey, more time to approach! Then she wrote later that she was thinking of Ubering to avoid parking/tolls and that it would be more like 6-6:15. Again, I had no plans other than approach, so I told her this was fine. We bantered a bit about Uber being expensive vs. taking the train. At 5:25 PM, she wrote that she found a Lyft for 50% off and “See you at 6:30!”
I continued approaching with C, and we walked over to the date location together. As we were walking over, at 5:18 PM, she texted “I’m here.” I called her immediately, said I was just finishing up with a friend, and would be there shortly. I rushed to the bar, but couldn’t find her. I called again, and she said “I was getting weird vibes there waiting thinking I was going to be stood up, so I’m going to this other restaurant to eat before I go back to Jersey.” I said “W….what? Were we just not on the phone five minutes ago?” I was beyond confused but was trying to salvage the situation, so I asked where she was. She told me, and I asked if she wanted me to come meet her, or if she would rather eat alone. She said she would rather eat alone. I said “OK, enjoy” and hung up.
As I was walking away, I realized what happened. She sent 6:30 and thought she sent 5:30, then spent an hour stewing by herself about being stood up, while not even bothering to text me that she had arrived.
She then sent me this, to which I replied with a screenshot of her text saying 6:30"
^ Though @pancakemouse did not really do anything wrong the girl is beyond retarded.... I truly believe she was in a down stated and did a future projection of "if i dated this guy i have to travel this long, meh i am out" in womanese, again my mental masturbation speculation, but i am rarely off....
lets dig into long distance, it is very appealing for some men and women:
- people that are not local may come across as exotic and the new shinny object factor vs typical local including different behavior, style, accent etc....
- Some seducers and some women love and actually prefer long distance..... Some seducers love it cause they get to get other women and more freedom. Some women love it cause they associate it with less neediness and men control.
- People love a challenge and what they can not have.
- Following my last point as i have been saying texting long distance (example movie tinder swindler) as i have been saying for years is very powerful.... Cause women and men will project blindness, wish fullness, and desires and ___________ on to that "person"......
^ long distance in my opinion is just a "Trap" you have a "long distance dynamics" it is very similar to those of us that have enjoyed "the fiancée, girlfriend, wife" while taken dynamics just when they get out of the relationship is a totally different dynamic and relationship typically goes to shit..... Cause women love the drama increases attraction, the fairy tale, the weird frame dynamic..... In other words if the "long distance" was not there the dynamic would be shit in most cases....It is pretty much a fantasy....
^ ok so lets talk about the 3 types of women:
- women that love long distance.
- women that hate long distance
- long distance virgins (women that don't know about long distance never experience it)....
Again pick up is a game of odds, a seducer friend of mine said "so you are going to screen when you open where they live?" i said "of course no, that is retarded"... So this is not what i am advocating, i am talking about calibration and high odds game vs "luck" and "i did not know dah"....
Me personally i don't do long distance, but i still fuck them (tourist are the easiest women to bang for obvious reason, in womanese they go into vegas syndrome (what happens in vegas stays in vegas i had no consequences and 0 whore complex cause it does not count and nobody will find out)..... So when puas write lay reports on amazing game on tourist, i roll my eyes and if you read any of my dtf videos and posts (tourist are automatically dtf)....
Anyways back on the post long distance:
scenario 1:
Tourist out of country or state texting or verbals: " i will be your tour guide, once you get to know me and i show you around you will fall totally in love, i will ruin it for every guy you meet after me and you will never want to go back to __________ country or state" use it and field test it is high odds i bang so many girls usindgthis in person or text...
scenario 2:
Depending on interaction if you are in another country/state/city after you have enough intelligence you need to gauge if they hate it cause you are tourist temporarily that raises asd or if she sees you as tourist dtf (inverse vegas syndrome for her).
Different techniques depending on seducer...... Online, i have a screening online criteria, of 20 minutes distance.... Some seducers have 45 minutes... Some seducers don't care as long as she comes over........ At this point of my life i heavely screen for distance cause i like super high odds game at this point... Anything over 20 minutes is out for me....... HOWEVER, is cause at this point in my life i have slept and accomplish pretty much everything there is nothing else for me to see.... So when i was starting i was not heavily screening for distance and that is understandable due to "not knowing better", "lack of options" so i never really look down when newer guys like to play around with long distance.... Just know that if more than 20 minutes away, odds start decreasing.... ( unless she is my ideal 9 or 10 i may break the rule, but not even).
Technique 1- even for online here is a sample of my profile:
^ now i get multiple girls, still saying "i know you say in your profile not more than 20 minutes, but i work down there, or i don't mind driving, or in the highway is 45 minutes is that ok????? some times if they do this i make a calibrated decision based on experience, feel, her looks (8 or above)..
- make sure you have some type of LOGISTICS sorted out aka motel, hotel, rbandb and likes close to her, and/or if you are going down she needs to preferably LIVE ALONE to pull to her place, and you got a feel this can be done or like i used to do that i beg at velasco RIP and lobo a million times to do but they told me it could not be done in ny (and of course i was right they were wrong).... To find a motel hourly to pull as i teach in my videos and posts....(turns out it can be done in ny and actually cheaper than Miami)....
Technique 2 disqualification:
you will disqualify yourself in text or verbals due to distance, when you do this she will SELL YOU and CONVINCE YOU, is not a problem...... The way i do is with a bit of humor and exaggeration(you don't have to use humor but disqualify yourself) here is sample:
technique number 3 change your location.-
For example women in ny/ny and surrounding areas love guys in Manhattan, if they meet you in Manhattan and you live in jersey for example game over(90% of girls would disqualify only due to location) in some cases, for what i understand they like Manhattan guys (automatic dhv due to location, socio economics etc...).... So i know guys in others city just saying that they live in Manhattan, get logistics and the bang cause manhattan dudes at a premium to women....
Questions, comments welcome.....
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