LR/FU - Sex on two seperate occasions, still can't retain her - What gives?

[tvktvk]

Hey guys,
I'm gonna have to make this quick because I'm superbusy these days, but girls keep fucking up with my head and that's why I need your help.

One year has past since I had my first lay, and within that timespan I've slept with 8 different girls. I could have maybe had double that figure if I put more time and effort on my game, but I'm still pretty proud of my first year as not a virgin. This report is about girl #8. Let's call her Elena.

This whole thing started during our welcome week this semester. I was a mentor for some of the incoming master's students with some of my friends and she was a mentor for some of the new bachelor students. She's a sophomore and I met her briefly a few times last year when she was a freshman, always thought she was cute. I met her a few times during the first days of the welcome week, flirted with her lightly and dissapeared because I had other places to be. But on the 4th day (thursday) we ended up at the same afterparty and we just gravitated towards each other. After some heavy touching, we started kissing. After that I moved her to a couch, deep dove her a bit while kissing her a few times more. She was with some of her freshman kids she was looking after. We ended up taking a taxi together with one of them. We dropped her (the freshman) off before we got to my place.

She still lived at home which was kinda far away and when we got to my place she asked me if I wanted her to come with me, because she didn't have to. I said of course I wanted her to come home with me. We got out of the cab and back to my apt. I offered her first some water, after that I moved her to the couch in the livingroom and started kissing and escalating. After a couple minutes she asked me "why aren't we in your bed". I told her we would go there eventually. Didn't wanna rush things.

We get down to my room, no LMR. The sex was good, but there was a 1 thing I found weird. She didn't seem to care for my oral skills at all. No moaning, no body movement, nothing. I found this weird because after my three first lays, of the remaining 4 girls I fucked before her I made 3 of them cum with oral sex (never got the chance with the fourth, she didn't want me to go down on her). She however seemed to love me penetrating her. I didn't make her cum, but I think I was pretty close. (I asked her after we were done if she came, she said no). The next morning we woke up, had sex and then she left.

The day after I sent her the "had a good time" text and she responded warmly. The week after I tried to set up a meet, but she was too busy. Monday the week after I tried again and this time she was free tuesday. We scheduled a meet, but I had to cancel because I totally forgot about some other plans...On friday the same week however she sent me a text after midnight asking if I'm out. I told her no and told her to come over. She texted me that she was with some silly people and was thinking of leaving, but didn't wanna bother me if I was sleeping. I hadn't gone to bed yet so I told her that "I'm still up, come over". After that we figured out logistics and she came over after 30 minutes. We sat on the couch while talking and kinoing. 10 minutes in we started kissing and shortly after that I lead her to bed, no LMR.

Same thing with the oral happened this time as well, which bothered me. She was however moaning and digging her nails into my back during adapted missonary. She was also loving fucking doggy, but she still didn't cum. After we were done I told her that I wanted to know what she liked best, because I wanted her to cum. She said she loved the doggy, but brushed the rest off and told me that I shouldn't think too much of making her cum, she was still loving the sex...
The next morning we had sex again. I made us some breakfast I brought on teh bed and after that she left. Before she walked out the door I told her I'm free next thursday if she wants to hang. She acted kinda dismissive when I said that and told me we can talk about it later.

On wednesday the week later I text her if she wants to come over the next day and watch a movie. This is the text I get in return:
Elena - Hey! That sounds nice, but I think I need to clarify a bit. I love being with you, but I'm not ready for anything serious right now. I'm really busy nowadays and I'm also going for exchange next semester. I really like how things are right now, what are youre thoughts on that?
I thought score, I just got a fuckbuddy. So I answered:
Tvk - Hey Elena, that works for me. I know you're going on exchange next semester. I also like how things are now and you're great to hang with. Was thinking we could watch a movie here tomorrow night, lemmeknow if you can make it.
She then told me she couldn't make it tomorrow, but everything was all good. I told her cool, no worries.

Monday the week after (which is today) I try to schedule a meet this week. This is the response I get:
Elena - Hey I had fun at x party, but I went home pretty early. Hope you had a nice weekend! My schedule is fine, I unfortunately don't think we can keep seeing each other. I don't really know what to say. You're great guy and you've been good to me, but I don't think we should hang out anymore. So sorry for all the back and forth.

Wtf.
So I don't really know what I could have done differently with Elena, other than had her cum when we had sex. But it almost seemed like she didn't give me the chance to make her cum. Like she wouldn't let herself completely go. I hadn't gotten any strong feelings for her yet, but it hurts to know that she doesn't want anything to do with me anymore, and I probably will never turn her around in the future. Right now I'm a bit tired of gaming girls in general and want to get out of that one night stand mode. Would love your input on this report guys, I'm heading to bed. Peace.

tvktvk

 

[skin_man]

Hi,
Getting super sexually confident after never having any can be very intoxicating. I share in your 'dinn'. In other words, thumbs up for getting your dick wet after the initial prejudice of virginity.


Why didn't you fuck her on the couch? It's your apt. She's in it with you... Who says whether the bed is for sex or for dry humping? You! So even if you led her to the room, she chose the spot but it may have dried up her v-jay-jay. Close call but she gave no lmr. Next time would recommend strange place sex first date for a girl so much into you. Also makes for a bigger 'bounce' for her wild fantasy.

I hope you get my position in this debancle -- might have made her cum quicker.

In response to her "escape text" (really like how things are going) since it appeared like what you wanted also, you did not really state clearly what you and her meant by how things are going.
Mind you, deep diving got you the pussy, you will need to keep deep diving after you got the pussy so that you can keep her feeling like you are the same guy she met with the first and second time. If she said something as vague as 'how things are going.' don't waive it and ask for a visit immediately. Instead, ask for clarification while putting off any visit. When you're certain it's the sex with no strings attached option, you can then begin acting aloof more to her emotions since its what you already wanted (fwb). Afterwards, i would have given another whole week before asking her out again - Just to keep us seeing each other bi-weekly for now.

Too long a response but it matches your lengthy text and i hope some bits helped.

 

[tvktvk]

Skin_man,

Thanks for the pointers man, some things to clarify:
- I didn´t fuck her on the couch because I have roommates Otherwise I would have done it for sure lol.
- I probably didnt illustrate it well enough in my report, but I was perfectly consistent with Elena in all my interactions with her. I kept deep diving her every time we met and I was basically a combo of nice and sexual all the way through. I never changed my frame.
- Sorry for that unclear texting part, my translation from Norwegian to English was really bad there. It was kinda hard translate the content of the clarification text from me and her, but it was pretty clear what at least she said she wanted - She wanted a casual relationship. I even consulted my female roommate about Elenas text and my text and she agrees. My roomate also thought my text made things really clear what my intentions were.

Radeng,

Thank you for the advice, and the kind words I aim to lay 1 new girl each month going forward, unless I get into a relationship.

I think there are four explanations to the outcome with Elena, two are my fault

#1. She never liked me that much in the first place and just used me to have place to stay at night so she didnt have to pay the cab fare home when she was out (taxi fares are crazy expensive in Norway).
#2. The sex was not that good for her, therefore my value as a fuckbuddy wasnt that high (my fault).
#3. I gave out too many relationship signals like you said (my fault).
#4. She started getting feelings for me.

#1 I don´t really believe in because she originally agreed to come to my place when she wasnt out but I had to cancel. It´s still a possible explanation. #2 is also possible, but then I don´t think she would have bootycalled me for a second round of sex. Like you said, its probably a combination Of #3 and #4, maybe also a bit of #2. This however frustrates me because I like to talk and cuddle after sex. When people come to my place I´d like to be a good host. I also dont understand how texting her once a week trying to figure out the next meet can be seen as needy.

I do have the option of bootycalling her in a couple of weeks, but I dont really see the point in that, haha. I would rather just find a girl as hot or hotter than Elena when Im out I mean she was very much my type, great body and cute face. My fundamentals are however at a point where pretty hot and very cute girls are approaching me in clubs (my game still needs a lot of work though). The benefit I see with fuckbuddies would be having sex on days I´m not going out.
Anyways, on to the next one. matched with some cute Herman chick on tinder yesterday and Im meeting her on friday. Maybe I´ll bootycall Elena, who knows. Thanks for the advice guys, feel alot better.

tvktvk