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Hey guys, I'm new to this forum.
Just some background on me, I used to be pretty interested in seduction when "The Game" first came out 10 years ago... I even implemented some pua material with some success. Had a few relationships in my past, but lately just hit my mid 30s now, and realizing that I'm really struggling to get laid. I started pouring over seduction materials and the girlschase website as of late, and realized I was reverting back to old patterns that I would have never done when I was in my 20's. E.g. always paying for girls over multiple dates, dragging out multiple dates without even inviting a girl back to my place to get busy, cooking and doing things for girls that I never planned to bang.
Needless to say, I'm reforming, and not only trying to get back to my previous mindset in my 20's, but hopefully improve so I can get this situation taken care of. I'm in a year-long dry spell, not getting any younger, and I honestly think I'm going to die alone if I don't start really putting effort and study into this part of my life.
With the advent of online dating, I've been relying near 100% on apps to meet girls these days. Though many people consider me fairly charismatic, the thought of approaching a girl I don't know and talking to her with the intention of getting her number is still really nerve-wracking to me. With that being said, onto the LR (where I didn't get laid)
Lay Report (over the span of 2 dates):
Date 1:
Met this girl on Tinder. 32 yo from Korea on vacation in LA (Ktown area) by herself for three weeks. Petite, probably a 7 in my eyes. We met up in ktown this past Wednesday and I took her to a bar, where I proceeded to get pretty hammered. However, before doing so, we had what I thought to be a pretty good conversation finding out things about each other. I was kino-escalating fairly quickly, rubbing her lower back and placing my hand on her bare knee while we talked at the bar. After reviewing some of this sites materials, I realize that what I was doing was probably a little too sexual for a first meetup and may have freaked her out. As such, after about an hour in she told me she didn't like me touching her so much. I backed off and stopped touching her for the rest of the night. Interestingly enough, she started to be the aggressor and started to grab my hand to hold. We moved to a table where we sat across from each other (mistake, I know, but it was the only one available) and she even told me to move my chair next to her instead of sitting across from her after a while. I dropped her back at her place after a few hours and we had a little kiss, but she pushed me away when I asked if I could come up with her. She was renting a single room airbnb, and though I expected resistance, I thought that maybe a part of it was that she didn't want me to see what a shitty place she was staying at.
Date 2:
This is where I get really beta and start playing up "boyfriend" qualities instead of staying to the script like this site advocates. It's two days later, Friday night and she asks me if we can have dinner tonight. I meet up with her in the afternoon in KTown and drive her back to my place in OC. I'm thinking already that it's in the bag that she's willing to come with me to my house and spend the night. We start holding hands in the car through two hours of traffic. I kiss her hand. When we arrive, she asks what I'm going to cook for her. We go to the grocery store together where I buy two bottles of wine and ingredients to make pasta. We cook together at my place, drink wine, and then i take her upstairs to my place to watch a movie that she wanted to watch. And here's where I deal with 10 hours of LMR...
LMR:
In my room there's a lounge chair in front of my computer desk and my computer desk chair. There's also the bed. Because we're watching on my computer, she chooses to sit in the lounge chair, and resists when I try to pull her to the bed. We sit there in two chairs awkwardly watching the movie while I pull her legs up into my lap and caress them for half an hour. Finally I manage to pull her onto the bed. She gives some resistance to kissing me, but I overpower her and give her a kiss, and let her go like nothing happened. She doesn't let me take off ANYthing. I persist and keep trying until asks me if I'm a pervert and tells me we aren't having sex tonight. Turned off, I give up and stop paying her any attention and just get really into the movie. Then after a while, we get under the covers and she strips down to her underwear and bra without me doing ANYTHING. I'm laughing in my head because it's exactly like what I've read: push pull, she wants to resist, and then when you stop paying her attention, she wants to get the attention back from you again.
But it doesn't go well from there. We kiss a little, and each time I try to take her underwear or bra off, she always stops me and says no. I know to be persistent from what I've learned and read, but after trying maybe 5-6 times, I give up and try to fall asleep thinking I'll give it another shot in the morning. However, my heart's pounding and I'm too horny to fall asleep, so I go downstairs and proceed to watch netflix for another 2 hours until 3am. She comes down in the middle wondering why I wasn't in bed. I look to her and smile, and turn my attention back to the TV. She sits on the couch next to me and cuddles up next to my for a while, and then goes back upstairs to go to sleep.
After I finish the show I'm watching, I go back upstairs to try and sleep, and the whole game starts over. She cuddles me, and when I try to take off her clothes she keeps stopping me. I finally fall asleep for 4 hours. Wake up thinking it'll be easier as I keep reading about how morning sex usually solves LMR. NOPE. SAME FUCKING THING. I get fed up but i'm super good about not showing it. She asks me if I'm mad at her for rejecting me. No shit sherlock. But I've learned that getting mad or bitchy never gets you anywhere, so I just say I don't care. I tell her in a friendly manner that I have errands to run and I have to take her home. We drive for an hour back to her place where I say nothing to her the entire car ride. As I drop her off I tell her to have fun in Vegas, since she told me she was going to vegas this weekend.
My final beta move of the report: I proceed to add her on facebook after I get back home.
PLEASE HELP. ANY ADVICE OR COMMENTS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG???
Just some background on me, I used to be pretty interested in seduction when "The Game" first came out 10 years ago... I even implemented some pua material with some success. Had a few relationships in my past, but lately just hit my mid 30s now, and realizing that I'm really struggling to get laid. I started pouring over seduction materials and the girlschase website as of late, and realized I was reverting back to old patterns that I would have never done when I was in my 20's. E.g. always paying for girls over multiple dates, dragging out multiple dates without even inviting a girl back to my place to get busy, cooking and doing things for girls that I never planned to bang.
Needless to say, I'm reforming, and not only trying to get back to my previous mindset in my 20's, but hopefully improve so I can get this situation taken care of. I'm in a year-long dry spell, not getting any younger, and I honestly think I'm going to die alone if I don't start really putting effort and study into this part of my life.
With the advent of online dating, I've been relying near 100% on apps to meet girls these days. Though many people consider me fairly charismatic, the thought of approaching a girl I don't know and talking to her with the intention of getting her number is still really nerve-wracking to me. With that being said, onto the LR (where I didn't get laid)
Lay Report (over the span of 2 dates):
Date 1:
Met this girl on Tinder. 32 yo from Korea on vacation in LA (Ktown area) by herself for three weeks. Petite, probably a 7 in my eyes. We met up in ktown this past Wednesday and I took her to a bar, where I proceeded to get pretty hammered. However, before doing so, we had what I thought to be a pretty good conversation finding out things about each other. I was kino-escalating fairly quickly, rubbing her lower back and placing my hand on her bare knee while we talked at the bar. After reviewing some of this sites materials, I realize that what I was doing was probably a little too sexual for a first meetup and may have freaked her out. As such, after about an hour in she told me she didn't like me touching her so much. I backed off and stopped touching her for the rest of the night. Interestingly enough, she started to be the aggressor and started to grab my hand to hold. We moved to a table where we sat across from each other (mistake, I know, but it was the only one available) and she even told me to move my chair next to her instead of sitting across from her after a while. I dropped her back at her place after a few hours and we had a little kiss, but she pushed me away when I asked if I could come up with her. She was renting a single room airbnb, and though I expected resistance, I thought that maybe a part of it was that she didn't want me to see what a shitty place she was staying at.
Date 2:
This is where I get really beta and start playing up "boyfriend" qualities instead of staying to the script like this site advocates. It's two days later, Friday night and she asks me if we can have dinner tonight. I meet up with her in the afternoon in KTown and drive her back to my place in OC. I'm thinking already that it's in the bag that she's willing to come with me to my house and spend the night. We start holding hands in the car through two hours of traffic. I kiss her hand. When we arrive, she asks what I'm going to cook for her. We go to the grocery store together where I buy two bottles of wine and ingredients to make pasta. We cook together at my place, drink wine, and then i take her upstairs to my place to watch a movie that she wanted to watch. And here's where I deal with 10 hours of LMR...
LMR:
In my room there's a lounge chair in front of my computer desk and my computer desk chair. There's also the bed. Because we're watching on my computer, she chooses to sit in the lounge chair, and resists when I try to pull her to the bed. We sit there in two chairs awkwardly watching the movie while I pull her legs up into my lap and caress them for half an hour. Finally I manage to pull her onto the bed. She gives some resistance to kissing me, but I overpower her and give her a kiss, and let her go like nothing happened. She doesn't let me take off ANYthing. I persist and keep trying until asks me if I'm a pervert and tells me we aren't having sex tonight. Turned off, I give up and stop paying her any attention and just get really into the movie. Then after a while, we get under the covers and she strips down to her underwear and bra without me doing ANYTHING. I'm laughing in my head because it's exactly like what I've read: push pull, she wants to resist, and then when you stop paying her attention, she wants to get the attention back from you again.
But it doesn't go well from there. We kiss a little, and each time I try to take her underwear or bra off, she always stops me and says no. I know to be persistent from what I've learned and read, but after trying maybe 5-6 times, I give up and try to fall asleep thinking I'll give it another shot in the morning. However, my heart's pounding and I'm too horny to fall asleep, so I go downstairs and proceed to watch netflix for another 2 hours until 3am. She comes down in the middle wondering why I wasn't in bed. I look to her and smile, and turn my attention back to the TV. She sits on the couch next to me and cuddles up next to my for a while, and then goes back upstairs to go to sleep.
After I finish the show I'm watching, I go back upstairs to try and sleep, and the whole game starts over. She cuddles me, and when I try to take off her clothes she keeps stopping me. I finally fall asleep for 4 hours. Wake up thinking it'll be easier as I keep reading about how morning sex usually solves LMR. NOPE. SAME FUCKING THING. I get fed up but i'm super good about not showing it. She asks me if I'm mad at her for rejecting me. No shit sherlock. But I've learned that getting mad or bitchy never gets you anywhere, so I just say I don't care. I tell her in a friendly manner that I have errands to run and I have to take her home. We drive for an hour back to her place where I say nothing to her the entire car ride. As I drop her off I tell her to have fun in Vegas, since she told me she was going to vegas this weekend.
My final beta move of the report: I proceed to add her on facebook after I get back home.
PLEASE HELP. ANY ADVICE OR COMMENTS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG???
