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made a final move, it's over?

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hey there everyone,

i have a bit of a dilemma, i can't figure out how to proceed, so she is a work colleague for almost 8 months, there was no interest at first, started to feel mutual attraction at some point, like 3 months ago, approached her, got an uncertain rejection, she said she does not want to "fool around", at some point "snapped out" and made her understand i don't play games, off course had to apologize later after she approached me, after that, asked me out to the movies! made an a move, a day or two later made an "all in" move, she refused to give an answer, asked me out with her and her girlfriend! made another move, hinted its a last chance as i usually do not give it, had some touching going on, tried to kiss her, she refused with uncertainty saying there is no turning back if we kiss and that was it untill now, am showing her a bit more attention, thought i'd "force" a final answer or back off, so i went out again with this girl, this time i insisted on an answer, we talked a lot, she said she likes me a lot but she had concerns, like she has been through bad experiences and she wants me to be sure i want a relationship, she said she had concerns about age (she is a year older than me) and the fact that we are work colleagues and friends, i tried to explain and talked about all those concerns, we kissed for a moment but then she backed off, at the end when she did not give an answer, i explained to her that it is pointless if she cannot decide and that i cannot just keep being around, she got a bit upset and asked me why did i end this at this time and not earlier, i said because i liked her that much that i wanted to give it another chance and said it is not pointless if she decides, and that was it, i think i was cool later with it, i saw her at work off course the day after, i was cool, did not change anything, i think i need help! i can move on but i keep wondering whether i did something wrong and the fact that i see her everyday just annoying! any suggestions please?
 

Tyme2k

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Wow man rough read, you're kinda all over the place. If your thoughts are this eratic, I'm betting your actions are a bit also.

It's hard to give you advice for this specific situation since your story does not flow. One constant I see however is the fact she continually shit tested you and you failed every time. Every objection that is thrown out is a way for her to rationalize what's happening and make sure she doesn't feel slutty. For example, one year older?? I am dating a woman 8 years older than me right now, 8!! She happens to also be the smartest and most attractive woman I have EVER had sex with, to top it off she LOVES me! You know how this happened? I passed her shit tests, over and over, by remaining unfazed and holding my frames of solidity, icyness, sexuality, and leading.

Another constant is how affected this girl makes you, it shows you clearly have a scarcity mindset and lack abundance. This makes you come accross needy in your post and I'm sure in your interaction.

Why would you give her an ultimatum? This shows she affects you and relinquishes the control of the interaction over to her. This should be used only after ALL else has failed and you don't care if you ever see her again. In this situation I think since you WILL see her again at work this is a BAD idea.

My suggestion for you is to accept your loss and tell her "you feel you went overboard, sometimes you take things a bit far, but you want to remain friends." Then you need to go out and get some more women to get out of this scarcity mindset.

Ok I just searched your posts and read your other one, viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1285&p=6901#p6901 .

This was much more concise so I got more of the gist. My other comments still stand, but I want to add two more things.

You should not be conveying your interest so heavily. You want the girl to know you're interested, but you dont want to lay it out in "words" per se. You will want to express this with physical contact, eye contact, body language, active listening, connecting/deep diving and escalation. Laying out your feelings so heavily makes you seem needy and shows you lack abundance.

You should not be talking about relationship status so much right off the bat before you've escalated to sex. This is my personal preference and usually the mention of relationships rarely comes up in my interactions until after sex, and even sometimes after having sex numerous times. When she tries to bring it up or reject your escalation attempts, rethreadt the conversation to a better topic, deep dive then attempt to escalate again and again until you close. I spent almost 3 hours straight of this before closing a girl.

After you have sex with her is the time to open this up for discussion, now she is invested in you and more willing to go with whatever frame you choose.

Hope this sheds some light.
 
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thanks man for your response, you highlighted some points for me :), i tried earlier with her what you mentioned, she shit tested me i stayed solid until she made it clear she doesn't want to "fool around" and if any then she'd want a relationship, that's when i started to approach her and be more open about it, i did not give her an ultimatum but i told her that i cannot just keep doing this and i do not usually stick around that much so she will have to decide , but i get what you are saying, i do not want to be or look needy, well i know my posts kinda imply that i am but i only wanted to cut it off because i guess i am not willing to spend anymore time on this, recently she approached me said that she is interested and that she feels bad about us being just friends but she is scared etc..., i think i got the bottom line, i will keep it up to her now if not then move on.... thanks man
 
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