Tonight I went out with a friend/wing.
We find a place that doesn't care at all about the "pandemic" and government totalitarism. A place where young girls (18-22 yo) were everywhere (I am 34, he is on the same ballpark).
My friend is very good with women, but at the same time I see areas where he is uncomfortable, this makes no sense to me to see that he is so good on some part of the game whereas I can teach him stuff on other parts. He is mostly a natural.
I have worked a lot on my fundamentals lately (haircut, posture, outfit, TRE [which I consider a fundamental by itself]) and my God... plenty of young ladies were looking at me when we crossed path. I could spot their eyes turning towards me, that was crazy.
We were drinking glasses and my friend pushed me to open sets. I reluctantly start to do some opens. At the same time he opened also.
1-
He opened a set of 2 girls. I could see that the prettier girl was into me (and what amazed me is that he did not understand it, I did a lot of daygame last year and I think that makes me really attuned to understand when a girl like me or not). So I talk with this girl and it was 10pm, I didn't now how to move this interaction forward.
At some point I told something meaning that I am better than him, but that was not needed and I saw her attraction decrease after that, it was totally unecessary, she already liked me and me trying to sell myself act rather as a turn off. Then she told me that she and her friend need to go to the back of the nightclub to see their girlfriend that was alone. The nightclub was very chaotic and I knew it would not be a given to see her again, so I took her IG.
My friend told me that I shouldn't have took her IG and that I should have stayed with her.
My first question is what to do with a girl interested but that has to leave to go somewhere else in the nightclub? What tilts the decision between staying with her or contact closing her?
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After that, there was a 2 sets with a fat girl and a OKish girl. I open the fat girl and talk with her a few minutes (the OKish saw that but I didn't acknowledge her existence). Then maybe 30 minutes later I open the OKish girl but 2 minutes in, she saw another girl that she knew and they start to talk together therefore I eject after 1 minutes after they start to talk together and didn't acknowledge my existence.
Then maybe 1 hour later, I could see that the fat and the OKish girl were bored and were throwing glances at me when I was looking in their direction. So I open them again. The OKish throw some shit tests at me in order to see whether I prefer the fat girl or not. I passed succesful her shit tests and after that she asked me what I plan to do for the "after". She told me about another bar where to do the "after" (not sure after was the right word since it was still early in the evening, but that was the word she used) and she asked to come with them to this bar.
I told her that I need to check with my friend to see what he was planning to do.
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Before reopening the 2 sets (OKish and fat girls), I had opened a group of 2 girls.
While I was talking with the OKish/fat girl, he was talking to this set. After leaving this previous set, I joined him into this new set and hook quickly with one of the girl I had initially opened (about her lack of tattoo relative to her friend). She was 18, with a short skirt.
At some point she told me that she want to join the army. I told her that I am sure she want to do that to be fucked by masculine men but that she doesn't need to enroll in military to do that. I told her she shouldn't enroll in military just because of her sexual fantasy, she told me that this is not because of her fantasy, I told her that she is wrong and that I understand herself better than she is able to understand herself.
At this point I kiss her and she reacted very positively. We made out, I put my hands dominantly around her neck, playing with her neck and face.
Her friend was also 18 and pretend to don't like older men, while my girl was admitting openly liking them. I tease her friend about that and I could see that her frame about not liking older men wasn't really strong. I think she was also possibly liking me but I was with my girl so I didn't bother too much.
At some point my friend tried to convince me to double teamed her. I am assuming he has talk with her before and feel like she was interested in him, and afterwards he saw that she was also interested in me, so he came up with this idea.
I wasn't really sold on that idea, I would have prefered to bang her alone. Especially because I thought that she was liking me more than him. I was the one having the more meaningful conversartion with her so I just got back at the conversation with her.
At some point he interrupted us to say goodbye, and he starts to talk during 2 or 3 minutes with her. But I took back the control of the situation by interrupting them by making out with her, and my friend left.
After he left, I tried to invite her at my place, but she declined saying that she had come with her friend, so she will leave with her friend. I talk with her about sex (she told me she has slept with 23 guys and 2 girls). I told her that I cannot promise to be the best but that I would be in her top 3.
I also told her that her friend could come to my place with her, but she refused on the same tone than just for her alone. I didn't insist much on the 3some with her friend because I didn't believe it was possible.
She told me she was opened to be double teamed by me and my friend. I ask her if we should set up the next date with her, me and my friend, or just her and me. She told me that she would prefer to see me first and then afterwards meet my friend depending on how stuff unfolds.
We fool around a bit more. I had understand since a long time that there was no way that she would come with me, so I told her that I am going to leave.
I kiss her passionatly to say goodbye, even more outrageously dominantly than before, and I left at around 1.5 am.
I am finishing writing this at 4am, and she just sent me a text "hey it's me" (I didn't write her anything so she has initiated the texting, I am assuming before going into bed).
My second question: I knew that by kissing her and touching her it would make it almost impossible to bring her back in my place and sleep with her, but at the same time the conversation was so overtly sexual (ie. "I am sure you want to do the army because deep down you want to be fucked by a bunch of masculine men") that I don't see what else besides kissing her and touching her I could have done. So what is the best course of action in these kind of situation when the conversation is overtly sexual? Escalating with kiss/touch at the risk of losing the lay, or turning down the sexual intent?
Now I am looking myself in the mirror and I have the trace of her lipstick all over my chin. I am happy because that wasn't part of my reality 1 year ago (and tonight everything seems very easy and natural), but I am sad because I haven't slept with her.
We find a place that doesn't care at all about the "pandemic" and government totalitarism. A place where young girls (18-22 yo) were everywhere (I am 34, he is on the same ballpark).
My friend is very good with women, but at the same time I see areas where he is uncomfortable, this makes no sense to me to see that he is so good on some part of the game whereas I can teach him stuff on other parts. He is mostly a natural.
I have worked a lot on my fundamentals lately (haircut, posture, outfit, TRE [which I consider a fundamental by itself]) and my God... plenty of young ladies were looking at me when we crossed path. I could spot their eyes turning towards me, that was crazy.
We were drinking glasses and my friend pushed me to open sets. I reluctantly start to do some opens. At the same time he opened also.
1-
He opened a set of 2 girls. I could see that the prettier girl was into me (and what amazed me is that he did not understand it, I did a lot of daygame last year and I think that makes me really attuned to understand when a girl like me or not). So I talk with this girl and it was 10pm, I didn't now how to move this interaction forward.
At some point I told something meaning that I am better than him, but that was not needed and I saw her attraction decrease after that, it was totally unecessary, she already liked me and me trying to sell myself act rather as a turn off. Then she told me that she and her friend need to go to the back of the nightclub to see their girlfriend that was alone. The nightclub was very chaotic and I knew it would not be a given to see her again, so I took her IG.
My friend told me that I shouldn't have took her IG and that I should have stayed with her.
My first question is what to do with a girl interested but that has to leave to go somewhere else in the nightclub? What tilts the decision between staying with her or contact closing her?
2-
After that, there was a 2 sets with a fat girl and a OKish girl. I open the fat girl and talk with her a few minutes (the OKish saw that but I didn't acknowledge her existence). Then maybe 30 minutes later I open the OKish girl but 2 minutes in, she saw another girl that she knew and they start to talk together therefore I eject after 1 minutes after they start to talk together and didn't acknowledge my existence.
Then maybe 1 hour later, I could see that the fat and the OKish girl were bored and were throwing glances at me when I was looking in their direction. So I open them again. The OKish throw some shit tests at me in order to see whether I prefer the fat girl or not. I passed succesful her shit tests and after that she asked me what I plan to do for the "after". She told me about another bar where to do the "after" (not sure after was the right word since it was still early in the evening, but that was the word she used) and she asked to come with them to this bar.
I told her that I need to check with my friend to see what he was planning to do.
3-
Before reopening the 2 sets (OKish and fat girls), I had opened a group of 2 girls.
While I was talking with the OKish/fat girl, he was talking to this set. After leaving this previous set, I joined him into this new set and hook quickly with one of the girl I had initially opened (about her lack of tattoo relative to her friend). She was 18, with a short skirt.
At some point she told me that she want to join the army. I told her that I am sure she want to do that to be fucked by masculine men but that she doesn't need to enroll in military to do that. I told her she shouldn't enroll in military just because of her sexual fantasy, she told me that this is not because of her fantasy, I told her that she is wrong and that I understand herself better than she is able to understand herself.
At this point I kiss her and she reacted very positively. We made out, I put my hands dominantly around her neck, playing with her neck and face.
Her friend was also 18 and pretend to don't like older men, while my girl was admitting openly liking them. I tease her friend about that and I could see that her frame about not liking older men wasn't really strong. I think she was also possibly liking me but I was with my girl so I didn't bother too much.
At some point my friend tried to convince me to double teamed her. I am assuming he has talk with her before and feel like she was interested in him, and afterwards he saw that she was also interested in me, so he came up with this idea.
I wasn't really sold on that idea, I would have prefered to bang her alone. Especially because I thought that she was liking me more than him. I was the one having the more meaningful conversartion with her so I just got back at the conversation with her.
At some point he interrupted us to say goodbye, and he starts to talk during 2 or 3 minutes with her. But I took back the control of the situation by interrupting them by making out with her, and my friend left.
After he left, I tried to invite her at my place, but she declined saying that she had come with her friend, so she will leave with her friend. I talk with her about sex (she told me she has slept with 23 guys and 2 girls). I told her that I cannot promise to be the best but that I would be in her top 3.
I also told her that her friend could come to my place with her, but she refused on the same tone than just for her alone. I didn't insist much on the 3some with her friend because I didn't believe it was possible.
She told me she was opened to be double teamed by me and my friend. I ask her if we should set up the next date with her, me and my friend, or just her and me. She told me that she would prefer to see me first and then afterwards meet my friend depending on how stuff unfolds.
We fool around a bit more. I had understand since a long time that there was no way that she would come with me, so I told her that I am going to leave.
I kiss her passionatly to say goodbye, even more outrageously dominantly than before, and I left at around 1.5 am.
I am finishing writing this at 4am, and she just sent me a text "hey it's me" (I didn't write her anything so she has initiated the texting, I am assuming before going into bed).
My second question: I knew that by kissing her and touching her it would make it almost impossible to bring her back in my place and sleep with her, but at the same time the conversation was so overtly sexual (ie. "I am sure you want to do the army because deep down you want to be fucked by a bunch of masculine men") that I don't see what else besides kissing her and touching her I could have done. So what is the best course of action in these kind of situation when the conversation is overtly sexual? Escalating with kiss/touch at the risk of losing the lay, or turning down the sexual intent?
Now I am looking myself in the mirror and I have the trace of her lipstick all over my chin. I am happy because that wasn't part of my reality 1 year ago (and tonight everything seems very easy and natural), but I am sad because I haven't slept with her.
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