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Thereʼs a kind of hilarious scenario I just might be able to turn to my benefit. But I'm just a little in over my head and have to figure out a few points. This is not related to my recent post about a friend who wants me to seduce his fuck buddy; thatʼs another friend, and that situation is still pending.
A Laughable Story
Jeff is a childhood friend who is married with kids, but not exactly traditional. He and the wife have hedonistic tendencies. For instance, theyʼve been known to have girls they know over for drunken orgies. Jeff is a good guy but heʼs at once crafty, irreverent, sometimes opportunistic, and a little machismo.
Well, the other day he told me he recently fucked his first black girl. (He may have made this point because thatʼs all I go for, lol.)
So the story goes, his friend Frank who heʼs known on‑and‑off since high school confided in him some marital problems. Jeff expressed some confusion, because they seemed fine. Frank complained that his wife, Amanda, was sexually frustrated. He admitted that sex consisted of a couple strokes and then him ejaculating and rolling over.
(Iʼm just a tiny bit confused as to how this marriage even happened, but I guess this just underscores the lover vs. husband dichotomy.)
Shit got worse. There were complaints of Amanda being in a bad mood.
I donʼt remember the exact details, but I think Amanda heard about one of these drunken orgies in which Jeff had railed good one of these chicks he and his wife had over. The idea came about to solve the problem by having Jeff fuck Amanda in front of Frank. I donʼt recall if it was Amandaʼs idea or Frankʼs, but it may have been Amanda who proposed this to Jeff.
Jeffʼs reply was that the boss — his wife — would have to O.K. it. He added that his wife would probably kill him if he asked her, “is it ok if I fuck Amanda”, so he insisted instead that Amanda talk to his wife directly.
Jeffʼs wife was fine with it, and so they had the couple over. Amanda said she wanted to do this but had to get drunk first. And so Jeff fucked the shit out of Amanda and made her squirt.
Some weeks go by and Amanda is in a bad mood again, and so again, Jeff fucked Amanda in front of Frank.
And then a couple weeks later, Amanda decides to come over for another fucking, this time without Frank. And so, as my friend relates, he found himself in this strange position of every couple weeks Amanda wanting him to fuck her, and him obliging.
The Meetings
The same day I heard this story, I later on ended up at Jeffʼs place for the first time in a long while. There was a cute half‑black kid, maybe 4 years old, playing with his kids. Shortly after, the dad, a white guy, came in.
Later in the day, Iʼm chillinʼ in the garage with Jeff when I spot this cute black girl coming up his walkway. Well, this is one of my most stereotypically white friends, he and his white wife having mainly white friends living in a mainly white neighbourhood, so at this point in my day just about any black girl is going to be cute to me.. LOL... she was cute tho. We were introduced at a distance.
This was Amanda. I responded quite minimally, and beyond that didnʼt talk to her the whole time. Partly because my brain had decided that she might be a prospect, but at once had no idea how to act on that. Iʼm keenly aware that sexual tension is extremely easy to destroy, and so my policy is generally, if I canʼt say anything useful to seduction, I keep my mouth shut. LOL. Somehow in spite of this, she remembered my name.
The only time we did interact in any manner at all was one point we locked eyes from across the room, but stupid me, I let a kid sitting beside me cause me to break it first, by showing me something just at that moment. Argh!
I did, however, talk with Frank, at a point when it was just the two of us for a number of minutes.
Heʼs not a particularly masculine guy. Heʼs one of the reasons no guy with a lay count below 100 should ever even think about getting married, lol. He seems like a good guy but also a bit of a loser. He manifested a defeatist attitude. He seems to be the sort who mopes about the system being rigged against folk like him, instead of looking for ways to improve his situation. The type who looks to the world to give him a break. He wasnʼt the sharpest knife in the drawer either, and I was able to easily manipulate him into some feeble self‑contradictions.
Personally, I think his handling of his sexual problems with his wife probably follows a similar pattern. He probably doesnʼt even try. I find it a bit hard to sympathize with people who donʼt even try.
My Evil Plotting
A little plot twist: Jeff is moving out of the country soon. So thereʼs going to be one sexually frustrated cutie that I wouldnʼt mind taking as a fuck buddy. Thereʼs a decent chance I may see her again before he leaves, and I want to figure this out before I do.
I could either try to seduce her behind her husbandʼs back, or try to get an in‑the‑open type situation like what Jeff got into. For some reason, Iʼm actually more confident in the former, even though the latter is notionally less problematic. Jeff got that in‑the‑open situation in no small part because of a reputation for virility; OTOH, Iʼm a total unknown.
But seducing her behind her manʼs back is complicated by the fact that heʼs fairly likely to be around at any point where I have an opportunity to talk to her. I normally only do day game, and skip the chicks with men in the set, so I have no idea how to handle anything like this.
I assume youʼd at least normally have to make it look innocent to onlookers. Get her number on some harmless pretense. Propose a harmless meet. One problem is, for it to really look harmless, I should ideally be involving them as a couple, but that seems counter-productive, unless Iʼm trying for a long and difficult route that I donʼt feel is worth it just to get at one damn chick.
A bigger problem is that making it seem harmless is going to be at the cost of attraction and sexual tension. I actually would rather act sexy towards her. I want her to feel the sexual tension right from the get go. Unfortunately, that tension is something others are liable to see as well.
Perhaps I should be brazen. I mean, the husbandʼs a cuck, anyway.
But thatʼs still a scary proposition. Because hitting on another guyʼs girl is taboo. Mind you, Jeff, his wife, and most of his friends who might be bystanders are not overly sensitive, anyway, so they may not actually care to the extent Iʼm afraid they might.
I wonder if maybe when the two of them are over at Jeffʼs place, I could isolate the girl somehow, at least long enough to hit on her and take her number when nobody is watching.
Iʼm not sure off‑hand how to isolate her in a way thatʼs not suspicious.
I also have to consider whether to talk to Jeff about it in advance. I initially thought to ask him if heʼd care if I tried to seduce Amanda. That way, I donʼt risk pissing him off. And if he actually tells me, “sure, go for it,” then I think Iʼd feel a lot more comfortable hitting on her. And being comfortable hitting on a girl is crucial to succeeding at it.
On the other hand, thereʼs some risk that, because heʼs also Frankʼs friend, he canʼt well tell me to do it, even though he wouldnʼt actually care if I did. Or maybe he gets offended Iʼd even think of having Amanda cheat, although rationally I donʼt consider that likely, especially considering heʼs practically done it himself.
Since he knows Amanda and Frank, he could potentially give me useful intel. He could probably even help me isolate Amanda at least briefly.
Thereʼs a chance Jeff may propose trying to make an in‑the‑open situation. Especially since that wouldnʼt be going against his other friend. While Iʼm not totally against it, Iʼm not as confident in that approach.
So, Iʼm really not sure how to go about this, but if I want to try this at all, I need to make a plan soon.
